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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 19:56, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

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  • ... that The Hidden Case of Ewan Forbes discusses the history of trans man Ewan Forbes and his 1968 legal case to inherit his family's baronet title that was silenced from public records? Source: "So when he was old enough, and about to get married, he had his birth certificate changed to reflect his status as a trans man. Then Ewan’s older brother died, and as a member of an aristocratic Scottish family, he was next in line to become Sir Ewan Forbes of Craigievar." and "Ewan’s case, which was decided in 1968, remained secret for decades, its potential impact on transgender rights unacknowledged until recently." (The Landmark Trans Case That Got Hushed Up for Decades - The Daily Beast)

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self-nominated at 20:14, 27 November 2021 (UTC).

  • New enough in mainspace and long enough. QPQ present. The case is fascinating and so is the article. Various citations cover the hook source material, and the hook fact is quite interesting (it got my attention immediately!). No textual issues. Good to go. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:59, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
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Novel and contentious claims in the book should be caveated

It should be made clear in the lede that Forbes was at least believed to be intersex at the time, that his dispute was won on that basis, and that the interpretation of Forbes as a transman is the author's own. Lord Hunter's opinion in the case: "Taking all the criteria together it is my opinion that the Second Petitioner is a true hermaphrodite in whom the male sexual characteristics predominate".

It should be made clear that the speculation eg. that physical evidence was forged and that the testicular samples were fraudulently obtained is just speculation.

Playdon's assertions that trans people were able to change their birth certificate on demand should be caveated as assertions by the author. This assertion is contrary to the established law which was that birth certificates could only be changed in the event of an actual error. On page 213 Playdon claims: "that self-declaration of their ‘psychological sex’ was the only valid criteria for deciding trans people’s legal sex". This is in contrast to the opinion of Lord Hunter which is the exact opposite: "I am far from saying, to take an example, that a finding that the psychological sex of an individual was male would ever justify a conclusion that a person was legally a male". Hence, Forbes changed his birth certificate to correct it on the grounds of an unidentified intersex condition, and provided physical evidence to that fact when it was brought into dispute. Void if removed (talk) 11:05, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

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