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February 7

Huge mistake

I accidentally just opened an AfD for the wrong page and have no idea what to do. I meant to open one for Candace (show) but instead opened it for Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The Daily Wire (2nd nomination). Help please! TipsyElephant (talk) 00:26, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Do I just do a speedy keep withdrawl and then reopen it for Candace (show) or can I move the deletion discussion or something? TipsyElephant (talk) 00:47, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

@TipsyElephant: No worries, the AfD has been speedy-closed, go ahead and create one for the show. --Nosebagbear (talk) 10:30, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

I have a copyright of buzz the Bee and I want to know how how to register on wikapedia

Thankyou Please contact me <redacted>! Thankyou! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.10.153.140 (talk) 00:28, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

See WP:Notability for notability requirements for making new articles. I don't know what Buzz the Bee is, unless you are talking about Honey Nut Cheerios. DirkDouse (talk) 00:32, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is not a governmental body, so you cannot register a copyright here. In the US, you can register a copyright with the United States Copyright Office. If someone else has improperly uploaded your copyrighted work to Misplaced Pages, please tell us the name of the article or image file so we can remove it. If you wish to upload a copy of a work to which you own the copyright, you must license it to us under the CC_BY_SA, which then lets anyone in the whole world use your work under that license. -Arch dude (talk) 01:33, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Image insert

In Myanmar kyat topic, you are missing 50 pyars coin image. I have this coin reverse side image. But I don't know how to insert it. Please tell me " how to do that "

Here is the link for this image,

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1g3IRPa1yFcP74UFmwg0pPk4MeToYBNgg/view?usp=drivesdk

— Preceding unsigned comment added by U Thaung Myint (talk • contribs) 04:50, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

You'll find advice at WP:Images, and at the pages linked from there. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:35, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

About New Zealand

Hai I would like to ask, in New Zealand Vehicle driving side is Left or Right. In wikepide it's showing that 'Left '. But i think it is 'Right '. Please re-check — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.59.19.183 (talk) 08:29, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Left- and right-hand traffic confirms, with a reference, that it's on the left. Do you have any reliable source for it being on the right? --David Biddulph (talk) 09:50, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Does a webcam image from the NZ Transport Agency count as a reliable source? I don't think you'd want to enter this roundabout driving on the right: . AndyTheGrump (talk) 09:59, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

This similar NZ transport agency source confirms that they drive on the left-hand side of the road, whatever the traffic-cams look like. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:36, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

This, or a similar question, has come up before (at a different location). In countries where vehicles are driven on the left-hand side of the road the controls (steering wheel etc.) are typically, but not always, on the right-hand side of the car, (known as 'right-hand drive'). This can be confusing to someone not aware of the different terms. Eagleash (talk) 10:11, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Indeed. I once got given a "lefties' desk calendar". Among the nuggets of information was that such-and-such a place had England's biggest centre for left-hand drive cars. The compilers presumably didn't realise that a left-hand drive car is what the Americans call "a car" - with the driver sitting on the left of the passenger. --ColinFine (talk) 11:48, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

@ColinFine: There is a dealer about 10 miles from me (London UK) who basically only deals in LHD vehicles – usually 'muscle cars'. They would definitely lay claim to that title! Eagleash (talk) 11:54, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Agree with Eagleash - I've had to try and explain this this before - the confusion is "drives on the left" - which means drives on the left hand side of the road, whereas some people incorrectly assume it means the steering wheel is on the left hand side of the car. - Arjayay (talk) 13:43, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

I think you'll find the largest UK LHD car dealer is between the USAF airbases at Mildenhall and Lakenheath - Arjayay (talk) 13:48, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Page creation problem

The very specific page i've just created to highlight important information regarding Elon Musk family just like /walton_family got redirected instead with absurd reason, need some help here: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Musk_Family&redirect=no -- User:MrHerii (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:49, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Please read Help:Your first article. Your contribution was entirely unsuited to article space, for multiple reasons. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:16, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Now recreated in article space at Elon_Musk's_Family. Princess Persnickety (talk) 13:18, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

I've proposed it for deletion, though I'm not sure it doesn't qualify for speedy deletion as nonsense. Either way, it doesn't remotely belong in article space. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:35, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

table of content is wrong

Galilean non-invariance of classical electromagnetism Athul c137 (talk) 16:54, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

• Apparently the table of contents does not support <math> markup. JIP | Talk 17:06, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

MOS:FORMULA says section headings should use HTML only. phab:T295091 is about the problem. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:36, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Trying to revert identifies a proxy roadblock

I'm trying to revert vandalism at Joseph E. Brown. The vandalism is massive blanking. Trying to reverse it results in an error that there is reference to a local proxy, preventing me from saving it. I found no instances of "proxy" in the content or markup. Other than that, I don't know what to do to identify the text that's causing the roadblock. _signed, Willondon (talk) 18:00, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused as well. It gives me 2 specific instances of it (one being "www.oxfordartonline.com.proxy.lib.duke.edu/") however when I Go to the revision before the vandalism and search for ".proxy" nothing comes up. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:06, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

It's sorted now. Admin power, I guess! _signed, Willondon (talk) 18:09, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

(e/c) I was able to do it (perhaps because I'm an admin?). I don't see any error messages in the references now. I assume/hope all is OK now? What was actually going on to cause the error is beyond my competence. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:11, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

I've reported it as a false positive so hopefully someone there will be able to figure out what's triggering this filter. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:12, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

I have added a note to Misplaced Pages:Edit filter/False positives/Reports#Blaze Wolf. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:34, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

donations

I inadvertently started a monthly contribution and would like to stop it. I started it before I had an account. How do I go about stopping it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cthessen (talk • contribs) 18:59, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Cthessen Please email donate at wikimedia dot org with any inquires about donations. 331dot (talk) 19:06, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Also note that donation records are not connected to accounts or IPs; if you said nothing, we would have no way of knowing if you donated or not. 331dot (talk) 19:06, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

See more at donate:Cancel or change recurring giving. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:39, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

February 8

Meredith Xhafa

Meredith Xhafa is a popular Disco Singer and Dancer from Boston, Massachusetts whose career began in 1985. She later developed a stage name, Mera Donna (Meredonna). She was born in 1975. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.148.187.23 (talk) 04:08, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Do you have a question about using Misplaced Pages? -- Hoary (talk) 04:57, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

If you want to create an article about her, look here for tips on how to make your first article.Quick Quokka 18:05, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Adding external links

Several days ago I added 2 external links to the page of "Cliff Harrington". The links have not appeared. What have I done wrong? TIA.§— Preceding unsigned comment added by Chilliwack1953 (talk • contribs) 8 February 2022 06:13 (UTC)

The history of Cliff Harrington shows that it hasn't been edited since December. Your own contribution history shows no edits to that article. Perhaps you forgot to hit the "Publish changes" button? --David Biddulph (talk) 07:23, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Chilliwack1953: There are no edits from the account used to post here, until this post, since August 2015 and the Cliff Harrington page shows no edits since December 2021. Did you actually save (publish) your edits or are you referring to a different page? Please provide a link to articles you wish to discuss and (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the button, which automatically signs posts.). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 07:29, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Tagging page as essay or how-to

Misplaced Pages:Trigger Warnings looks like an essay. Should it be labeled as such? I would stick in the template myself but I'm not sure of the process and classification. E.g., maybe it's a how-to. I find these banners useful to know how "official" a page is, so I think this page would benefit from one. Dhalamh (talk) 11:49, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@Dhalamh: Hi there! It's already included in Category:Misplaced Pages essays about editing, so I think labelling it as such at the top would be fine. Template:Essay shows the varieties of templates you can use at the top of the essay. You could also create Misplaced Pages talk:Trigger warnings and start a conversation with the essay's author: WhatamIdoing. GoingBatty (talk) 15:46, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@Dhalamh, I think you should read Misplaced Pages:Not every page needs a tag. Also, for context, if it doesn't have a tag that says "policy" or "guideline", then the status is "not official". Misplaced Pages:The difference between policies, guidelines and essays is subtle, and it is often unimportant.

As for the particular page, I'd forgotten that I'd written it, and I don't really care what tags are put on it. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:52, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

line feed character in |title= at position 30 (help)

How do I fix this error? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filipinohere (talk • contribs) 13:23, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@Filipinohere: Typically, by fixing the (usually) fairly obvious gap where part of the title parameter has been moved on to a new line unnecessarily. Counting 30 characters along from the '=' sign should reveal where it is (if it is not already clear). There may be other complications in the ref. but without a link to the article concerned, cannot say. There should also be a blue 'help' link by the error msg. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:10, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Redirect creation

Hello! So I've been thinking about creating redirects to American Truck Simulator and Euro Truck Simulator 2 with the redirects being abbreviated versions of the name of the games (ATS and ETS2). My reasoning is that 1. this is a logical shortening of the names and 2. most people in the community when referring to them shorthand use ATS or ETS2. Would this be something that I could do and have it be constructive? I've been refraining from doing so because I don't want to cause issues by creating useless redirects (i've created a redirect before, Chevy Silverado EV however that's because there's pretty much a redirect with "Chevy" instead of "Chevrolet" for every vehicle made by the manufacturer) ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:16, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

ATS is a disambiguation page, with links to various pages, of which American Truck Simulator is one. ETS2 is an article, with a hatnote linking to Euro Truck Simulator 2 for those who weren't looking for the protein. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:24, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Huh. Didn't know that. I thought I had attempted to search for the articles using those in the past but I must not have actually done so. If this weren't the case (and there were no other issues such as whether or not it's the primary topic or other things) would creating redirects like this be constructive? ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:26, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Blaze Wolf, WP:RPURPOSE says that Reasons for creating and maintaining redirects include ... Abbreviations and initialisms (for example, ADHD redirects to Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder). But often an abbreviation will have multiple meanings, none of which is a primary topic—in that case a disambiguation page should be created rather than a redirect. TSventon (talk) 15:02, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I had read that and wasn't sure if that would apply in this case and wanted to make sure that just creating a redirect with that reasoning would be constructive. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:04, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

7 month old merge proposal still unclosed

Hello! So recently I've been working on reviving WikiProject Nebraska and on the article alerts page, I noticed that there's a merge discussion that is over 7 months old at this point and yet was never closed. I'm not sure what exactly I'm supposed to do here. This should be closed (it's stale by now) however I'm not sure whether to close it as merge, no consensus, or something else since only 1 other person besides the nominator engaged in discussion. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:18, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I assume we're talking about Talk:List of cities in Nebraska#Merger_proposal? I would say that WP:SILENCE applies. Nobody has objected, so the merge can go forward. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Alright sounds good. I don't know how to do the merge properly myself so I'll try and figure out how to mark it as closed with consensus for a merge so that someone else can do it. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Reply Tool roll-out

For those who don't also frequent the Teahouse or VPP, the Reply Tool will soon be rolled out to all logged-in and logged-out users. The tool makes it easier to reply on boards like this one. It is not yet available on mobile, and users can disable it if they choose.Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#Offering the_Reply Tool as an opt-out feature. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 22:00, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

FOLLOW-UP: a new section about the Reply Tool has been added to Help:Talk pages. (See here). Thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:59, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, @Nick Moyes, that new section is a great description! ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 18:59, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Setting up an image gallery

Hi there, I have been trying to set up an image gallery on the Eleanor Platt page with no success. I followed all of the instructions to code a gallery tag and none of them worked. I tried several of the gallery tag options in my sand box for a couple hours and couldn't get any of them to work. Could someone please tell me the right html code to use? I went to the Paul Manet page to see how they did it, but when I used the same coding on the EP page it didn't work. Very frustrating! There are several sections where I will need to set up galleries. One of the editors did leave me a note about it but I can't seem to fix it properly. Thanks for your help! Cabot215 (talk) 22:47, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

@Cabot215, see Help:Gallery tag. However the images at Eleanor Platt which you uploaded to Commons are in violation of copyright and must be removed. Only the copyright holders can upload these to Misplaced Pages with a proper license. See Misplaced Pages:Image use policy. StarryGrandma (talk) 00:32, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Just because an image is free to view online does not mean it is free to copy and use. StarryGrandma (talk) 00:35, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Leaving aside the issue of copyright (which you must not ignore, Cabot215), if you look at the source code in the article for bacteriochlorophyll you'll see how a simple gallery can be set up. Note that the "thumb" parameter is not used and neither is the "file" tag. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:36, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi there, all of the images have been generously provided by various museums and organizations with permission to use. There is no copyright violation as the pictures of the art are being shared by the owners of the art. If these are removed, then there will be no record on Misplaced Pages of her works. I am not sure why this is a problem given that I have not gotten them from the internet without permission. Cabot215 (talk) 18:23, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Cabot215, the museums who own the art are not the owners of the copyright. That belongs to the artist and their heirs. In any case the copyright owner either has to upload the work themselves, choosing the proper license, or communicate their permission directly to Commons. They must show they understand that anyone can use the image, not just Misplaced Pages, and can even use it commercially by selling copies. You uploaded to Commons saying that anyone can use the images for anything with proper credit, but you yourself do not have the right to say this. Nothing in the records at Commons say anything about anyone giving permission. See Commons:Licensing. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:10, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

February 9

Merge columns in table

Australian_Senate_committees#Membership_and_rules_of_committees

This section has a table discussing eight basic committee-related rules, and as five were changed several years ago, there are two columns to show their status before and after the change. Since the other three weren't changed (the two columns are identical), I'd like to have a single double-width box so it's instantly obvious that nothing changed in those areas. Is this possible? I tried blanking one of the two columns in the last row (deleting everything after the first "majority of members"), but when I previewed, the current boxes were still there, and the only change was that one was blank. 122.150.71.249 (talk) 03:41, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done via VisualEditor. GoingBatty (talk) 03:57, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

How to create an 'External links' section on a page which doesn't have one

https://johnpeacepianist.wixsite.com/arthur-hutchings is the page on which I need to create an 'External links' section. I don't know how to do this. Please give instruction Corvedale (talk) 13:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Corvedale You seem to have created the Section correctly here at Arthur Hutchings. Then you just need to put something like * to link to the website you've quoted here using a single square bracket round the link + text. More-or-less what you currently have but reversed. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:49, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

That page seems like something WP:SPS, but in context fairly harmless. However, the article needs better referencing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:53, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Corvedale Also, in what sense is the picture in the article your "own work"? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:59, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

In uploading the image Misplaced Pages gave me two options "own work" or "copyright". Since there is no copyright on the image it seemed correct to select "own work". In detail - prior to my upload there was not a single image of Arthur Hutchings on the web. I would say he was "camera shy" as a personality - I knew him well, he was my professor. The photo was given in 1975 to his good friend and former student Ronald Burrow who helped me with my researches and gave me a copy of the photo. I cannot see any reason whatever why Misplaced Pages should question it. I hope this resolves the matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Corvedale (talk • contribs) 14:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Corvedale: You should probably read WP:COPYVIO then. Because if you are claiming an image as your own work when it isn't your image, that would probably be a copy violation. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:16, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

I think "own work" means you took the picture. It IS your "own work," not you "own" the work. Uporządnicki (talk) 14:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@AzseicsoK except they didn't take the picture. Someone else gave it to them from what they just said. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:20, 9 February 2022 (UTC)::

User:Blaze Wolf, yes, you're understanding me kind of backwards. First, I was really answering him, not you (should have pinged--mea culpa). I suspect he saw "own work," and thought, "Yeah, he gave it to me, so I guess I own the work." I was looking to explain to him that that's not what's meant by "own work." It hadn't occurred to me before, but that phrase "own work" could be understood two ways. Uporządnicki (talk) 14:28, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@AzseicsoK: Ah ok. I thought you were trying to disprove what I said by saying that it would technically be their own work because they took the picture even though they told us they didn't. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:32, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Bottom line is that the website already quoted counts as publication for wp:NFCI purposes. So Corvedale needs to ask for deletion of the uploaded version from Commons and then use the non-free option of the upload wizard on English Misplaced Pages, carefully filling in the fair-use rationale and allowing the bot to lower the image resolution to our acceptable limits. Ask on my talk Page for help if you need it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:47, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

That. Since the subject is no longer alive, we can have this image in the article, it just has to be done in the bureaucratically correct way. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:39, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång If by "the subject," you mean the person who appears in the photograph, then that person's being alive or dead has nothing to do with copyright. To boil it down to its (possibly over-) simplest, the original owner of Copyright in a work is the creator of the work--in this case, the photographer who took the picture. Uporządnicki (talk) 18:58, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@AzseicsoK It has to do with WP:NFCCP. If he was alive, we couldn't use that, but now we can. It doesn't have to be this pic, but it may as well be. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Corvedale: You can't assume there is no copyright. Under modern laws, copyright exists automatically and doesn't require registration nor a copyright notice. To determine if copyright has expired, you would need to know when and where it was taken, the nationality of the photographer, when the photographer died, and circumstances of prior publication. In most countries there are specific provisions for anonymous or unknown-creator works, and they may be different for photographs versus say music or writing. See c:Commons:Anonymous works as a starting point. If you were using the upload wizard on Commons for a photo that you didn't yourself create, you would choose “This file is not my own work” then either “The copyright has definitely expired in the USA” or “Another reason not mentioned above” or “I found it on the Internet — I'm not sure”. (The local Misplaced Pages upload page has different choices.) ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 18:30, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Everyone: the bigger issue is that there are historical photos which are worth preserving, and are unlikely to ever attract a takedown notice, but we can't host them because we are so strict about copyright and free licensing. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 18:46, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Links to imdb that looks like wikilinks

I just noticed this in Tom_Donahue_(filmmaker)#This_Changes_Everything. Live and learn. Can we stop it somehow? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:47, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't think that we can. Someone has to notice the external link icon next to the bluelink. Note that we even have some widely-used templates which deliberately put such links into articles. For example EC 2.1.2.2 and the like is widely used in articles on enzymes. Most of the sort of link you noticed could of course be turned into proper citations as an alternative to deletion and that would normally be preferable. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:05, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull, I'm not sure I understand you correctly. Your link looks fine, like an external link should. Zach Horowitz however, "masks" as a wikilink, which I find annoying. Also, imdb is very rarely a good citation. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:41, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

I see the issue. You even managed to fool me into thinking it was a page with the link on it. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:43, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Btw, I should have linked Tom_Donahue_(filmmaker)#Los_Tigres_Del_Norte_at_Folsom_Prison, it's more on point. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:42, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Cirrus searches are notoriously unreliable, but these searches seem to suggest that there aren't all that many articles that use the interwikis:

imdbname ~640

imdbtitle ~790

There are four imdb interwikis listed at meta:Interwiki map.

Likely, most, if not all of them, can (should) be replaced with their template equivalents: {{imdb name}}, {{imdb title}}, etc.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: Yes, sorry, I looked at the edit history of the article and thought you were talking about this diff where you removed an EL. As you say, the Zach Horowitz type of link is more problematic and difficult to notice. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:53, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:54, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

That may be so in general, but in the specific case of the text in Tom_Donahue_(filmmaker)#Los_Tigres_Del_Norte_at_Folsom_Prison, those template equivalents would not fit. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:53, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Things like imdbname:1920886 should never be used. We need to be very specific how we let users know they are leaving wikimedia. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski 15:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

That's what I'm thinking, though there may a legit use somewhere on WP. There's also WP:EL which is fairly clear. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

For this specific usage, which we all seem to agree is bad, can an edit filter be used? Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:16, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

If not, I may start going through TTM's lists manually. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:26, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull, an editfilter wouldn't help with current content, would it? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:43, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

No, I don't think so but I'm not an expert. I'd happily assist you in purging the current ones from the search but I don't think that's a good idea until a filter is in place to prevent the issue arising again. Is this a topic for WP:VPT? Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:51, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

One can always ask. Misplaced Pages:Edit filter noticeboard perhaps? However, I don't think it's necessary to wait to start "cleaning." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull, other interested, asked at Misplaced Pages:Edit_filter_noticeboard#A_sort_of_imdb_edit_filter. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

I suppose one could also ask someone to look at it from a bot-perspective, but I don't feel hopeful that would work. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:17, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Comment I'm told that these links have "good" uses on Wiktionary and Wikisource. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:51, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

I have a line in my CSS that at least underlines all interwikilinks so it becomes easier to notice them. (That doesn't help alert others to the problem, but may help you find them so you can fix them). —Kusma (talk) 17:23, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Kusma, that does indeed help and will be very useful if we start a clean-up. The line is .extiw{text-decoration:underline !important} in case others are interested. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:37, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Like TTM said, there are 2 other potentially problematic interwiki links, IMDbCompany (found it in 2 articles, dealt with) and IMDbCharacter (found it in 1 article, started afd), but they don't seem to be much of an issue. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:57, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Reporting IP address

I have discovered anonymous disruptive edits on Ingersoll District Collegiate Institute, however, since they are done outside an account, I am unable to leave a talk page message. What should I do instead? Hcoder3104 (talk) 14:15, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Hcoder3104: - I've reverted the most recent bit of vandalism. Disruption at the article is low level, although you may wish to watchlist it. Feel free to undo any vandalism you come across. Mjroots (talk) 14:19, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Mjroots Is there anyone to contact to add confirmed or registered rights to the page? Hcoder3104 (talk) 14:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Hcoder3104: If the vandalism continues you can request page protection at WP:RfPP ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:24, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Also, you can still leave a talk page message if it's an IP. Since you are autoconfirmed, you may want to try WP:TWINKLE. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:25, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Hcoder310: - if you mean semi-protecting the article, it needs an admin to do that. The level of disruption does not justify semi-protection at the moment. Mjroots (talk) 14:34, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Especially since that article was last edited in November 2021 (excluding Mjroots edit of reverting vandalism) ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:38, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Scope of English Misplaced Pages

Earlier today I came across a discussion at an article talk page where one user expressed the idea that "topic xxxx is about what it's called in Foo, that belongs on the Fooian Misplaced Pages. This Misplaced Pages is concerned about things in the English world". Experienced editors are generally aware that this idea is completely wrong, yet it's not an uncommon mistake by editors. However, I could not think of any place where this aspect of the scope of the English Misplaced Pages is properly explained; WP:SCOPE is entirely silent on the matter. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps the statement to which you refer was somebody's interpretation of WP:COMMONNAME, where it says that an article title is that which is most commonly used in English-language sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:51, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Well, Misplaced Pages:Scope#Scope_of_Wikipedia doesn't mention "English" at all, which it shouldn't have too. However, if you want to add something like "Though this is the English Misplaced Pages, that does not imply that ... though English language sources are preferred when available." I have no objection. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:58, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:AIM does imply that the overall project is a comprehensive written compendium that contains information on all branches of knowledge. As such, it needs to make all subjects accessible to speakers in any language, although obviously the Japanese article on Tokyo might be more extensive in that language's version than here on the English version. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:01, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Talk page archive.

Can someone help me archive my talk page? ZX2006XZ (talk) 16:27, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

You'll find advice at Help:Archiving a talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:30, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@ZX2006XZ try Help:Archiving (plain and simple). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:36, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång I solved it. ZX2006XZ (talk) 16:37, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@ZX2006XZ: You still appear to be having issues getting it to work properly. If you'd like I could simply copy the code for automatic archival of my own talk page over to yours. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:49, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf@ZX2006XZ Note that it can take several hours, perhaps 24+, before it "kicks in." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:35, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång I know that. The bot has already run today so the effect won't happen until tomorrow. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:37, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Problem Uploading Image without text

In looking at the Commander of the Royal Canadian Air Force page recently, I noticed that a number of photographs are missing, including my own. I uploaded a small jpg LGen Lloyd Campbell CMM CD but when I attempt to insert it, while the picture displays OK, it has accompanying text that should not be included. Can you assist in fixing this problem?

Also, since I know all of the individuals whose pictures are missing, is there someone who 'owns' this page and to whom one might send photos to make this page more complete? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by YOW1 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@YOW1: Hello Yow! To answer your question about if someone owns the page, the answer is no. No one owns any page on Misplaced Pages. You can read more about this at WP:OWN. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:02, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@YOW1: For your first question, this edit should fix your problem. (The image syntax is often different inside templates, which is not obvious for newcomers). If you have additional pictures that could be included, one option would be to mention them at the discussion page: Talk:Commander of the Royal Canadian Air Force. To find out who wrote the article (and might have more information), check the page history: —Kusma (talk) 17:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@YOW1: you are free to upload those images yourself, but only if you own the copyrights to the images: this is not the same as ownership of a physical photograph. If you personally take a picture with your own camera, you own the copyright to the image. The subject of the picture does not own the copyright, but it you ask each of your colleagues to upload a self-made picture, they may do so. I'm very sorry this is so complicated. The complexity is in copyright law, which we try hard to follow as best we can. -Arch dude (talk) 20:05, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Targeted

Someone has blocked me from editing, they keep citing excessive editing/vandalisam or it was advertising but every school has the same layout and they are facts. I feel our school is being targeted. Every school they listed has it laid out differently but they won't let ours be any different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/North_Florida_Christian_School — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kah09h (talk • contribs) 17:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution. And note that 'other stuff exists' isn't really a good argument on Misplaced Pages. We know there are a lot of poor-quality articles, but that is no reason to keep them all that way. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:11, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Now under discussion at Conflict of Interest Noticeboard, as this editor has a massive conflict of interest. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:25, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Vandalism in Search Result Page Preview

I noticed in the search results page preview on Duck Duck Go for Indie Arie, the phrase "a hypocrite of an American singer and songwriter," whereas on the actual page it just reads "an American singer and songwriter." The vandalism doesn't show up in the Google search results.

I don't know how to fix that.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=indie+arie&atb=v1-1&ia=web — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulreynv (talk • contribs) 19:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Paulreynv: If the article on Misplaced Pages is correct, there is nothing we can do. You can try to report the problem to Duck Duck Go. RudolfRed (talk) 19:22, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Paulreynv: If there's a mismatch between what the search results say and what the article says, assume it's because the search engine hasn't updated its results or its cache to reflect the most recent edit, rather than anything malicious. Edits which adjust the lede take a little bit to update on search engines, depending on how frequently it crawls the page. —A little blue Bori v^_^v 19:40, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Paulreynv, that is a piece of vandalism which was in our article India Arie for seven minutes yeaterday, before it was reverted. (I haven't looked to see if that was the first time it was inserted or not). Search engines such as DuckDuckGo update on their own schedule. --ColinFine (talk) 19:54, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Similar dab pages

I have created a dab page for Selection Committee, with a link in the See also section to the dab page Committee of Selection. Should Selection Committee be a redirect to Committee of Selection, or was I right to create a seperate dab page for Selection Committee? The two titles are somewhat similar and I am not aware of a dab page policy for similar titles. Andysmith248 (talk) 19:58, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Both of these pages are incomplete as there are lots selection committees. Ruslik_Zero 20:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

I would think they should be separate, though they could be merged. I've added something to the Selection Committee one, and removed the Committee of Selection on that page. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 05:49, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Dispute Over Moderna Page

Hello

User is reversing my additions to the Moderna page. I find his reasons questionable and vague, but he refuses to speak with me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surge Of Reason (talk • contribs) 20:58, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Per their edit summaries - the reason Zefr isn't engaging on their own Talk page is because the article Talk page, in this case Talk:Moderna is the correct venue for that discussion to take place, just add your reply in the section they've created there. OcarinaOfTime (talk) 21:02, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Surge Of Reason: That user started a discussion at Talk:Moderna, you should discuss it there. Don't engage in an edit war. RudolfRed (talk) 21:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Institute for Science and International Security

I seem to have broken the info table on Institute for Science and International Security while adding content and it won’t let me undo it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Asher Rosenberg (talk • contribs)

It appears you accidentaly added a few extra brackets, spearating the template from its parameters. It should be fine now. Isabelle 21:30, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Norco College Logo

Hello, I am the public affairs officer for Norco College. Our logo is incorrect. How can I update to the correct logo. It would not let me attach the correct one.

Here is our logo https://www.norcocollege.edu/about/Documents/identity/LogoIdentity.pdf

Here is the page I see the athletic logo used by mistake: https://en.wikipedia.org/Norco_College

Please help me get this corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeslieReneeVargas (talk • contribs) 22:25, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

LeslieReneeVargas, thank you for letting us know. I have uploaded the logo using Misplaced Pages:Upload/Uploadtext/en-nonfree-logo and updated the article. TSventon (talk) 22:56, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello ‪TSventon‬,

I placed a request to update the Norco College logo. Originally it had the athletic logo, and you changed it to the official logo, but my boss would like it be the visual brand logo (similar to what we have on our college website thumbnails). It is available under visual marks in our brand guide and is also the same maroon color. The file name is: Norco-logo-vertical-color. Are you able to update one more time. This will be in line with our official branding guidelines.

Here is the page with the visual logo I am referencing: https://www.norcocollege.edu/about/Pages/identity.aspx

Thank you,

Leslie Vargas District Public Affairs Officer, Norco College Leslie.Vargas@rccd.edu — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeslieReneeVargas (talk • contribs) 23:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@LeslieReneeVargas: You can upload it yourself using Misplaced Pages:File Upload Wizard, and then submit a request at Talk:Norco College with {{edit request}} to have someone add it to the article. Be sure to also declare your conflict of interest on your user page. GoingBatty (talk) 02:27, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

LeslieReneeVargas I have updated the logo as requested at Norco College, if you reply you can notify me by copying my signature as I did with yours and signing with four tildes ~~~~. If anyone wants to tweak the size, etc, please do. TSventon (talk) 13:07, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

February 10

How do I report an admin?

Just a few hours ago I came into conflict with an admin who was using harsh language and threatening to block me for making one minor error. Two other admins condemned his actions. I may have to report him. Ak-eater06 (talk) 06:58, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Ak-eater06 The user who gave you warnings is not an administrator. User behavior issues may be reported to WP:ANI if they are intractable and cannot be resolved. 331dot (talk) 09:18, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Ak-eater06: I guess you are talking about the events at Andrew Scheer. A few of points to note: Firstly, the other editor involved (Toddst1) is not an Admin. Not any more - he retired from that role. He is now an editor with the same rights as you or me - although he is a hugely experienced and well regarded editor, so I think his opinion is well worth taking seriously. Secondly, you will notice that his comments all refer back to Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines, rather than just his own personal views - unlike your insistence to keep adding unsourced information to a BLP. It was not a single mistake; you kept putting it back in spite of being told why it was not suitable (breaking the three revert rule in the process). Thirdly, the only personal insults I can see are the ones you used, calling him an "angry user who wants to create conflict". In future, I suggest you stick to the issue, and take content disputes to the Talk page of the article per BRD. You might also like to read WP:CIVIL.--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:28, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Something to Add about Grand Central Station

Hello Editor, I was reading about Grand Central Station Terminal in New York on Misplaced Pages when I noticed the paragraph on films made in Grand Central Station Terminal throughout the years. I have a film on DVD that was not mentioned which does feature Grand Central Station Terminal in the final scene of the film. The film is called Hold Your Man and it is a 1933 film done by Metro Goldwyn Mayer. It starred Clark Gable and Jean Harlow. I definitely saw on the last final scene, Grand Central Station in all its glory. You can see the movie for yourself and research it, you will see it there. Please add that detail to the information about the station in your Misplaced Pages. Thank you in advance. Thank you for the great work. Grand Central Station Terminal brings back lots of great memories for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:7A8E:5F00:D921:2AA5:9F9:9D79 (talk) 07:16, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

I see that you've added that information yourself, which is fine according to our WP:BRD policy. However, you didn't quite format things correctly nor did you link to the article on the film at Hold Your Man, so I'll do that for you now. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:04, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

descarcari

buna ziua!cum procedez sa descarc un articol in limba romana? este in limba engleza,se traduce automat cand il deschid,dar cand il descarc apare in limba engleza — Preceding unsigned comment added by GABI PYT (talk • contribs) 10:57, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

This may be related to the browser features you are using. Automatic translation into Romanian is not a Misplaced Pages feature, but something that Chrome (or other browsers) do for you. So if you download an article, you get the original, not Chrome's translation. —Kusma (talk) 11:03, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Request for archiving bulk URLs

Hello. I have a lot of URLs and links that should be archived in wayback machine and archive today. Is there any fast way to archive them? I have not yet added them in a page but in the future I will add them that is why I need to archive them ASAP before rotting. --Likhasik (talk) 11:04, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

You can run on a series of articles to automatically archive the sources. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski 12:39, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Question

On Misplaced Pages:Template index/User talk namespace/Multi-level templates is there some warning template I could use for a user who's misusing warning templates? There was a user who threatened to report to block me over one mistake I made. Ak-eater06 (talk) 14:01, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

@Ak-eater06: Hello Ak! You can see the template {{uw-tempabuse}} ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:21, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

paintings of people to be added

i would like to be considered to paint portraits of people who have no images in wikipedia. i read that this is a project that is happening now. i have been painting portraits for 50 years. my website is ...www.sashasilverstein.com.

thanks so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.68.161.55 (talk) 15:45, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

See https://wikimediafoundation.org/participate/unseen/. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:41, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Updating a radio station logo.

I would like to update the logo for the radio station I program, but was unable to do so. Instead, the upload was flagged. I reported the issue and received an email from "Jeff G." directing me to the "Please do not advertise on Commons" paragraph. This is not for the intent of advertising. I simply want to ensure that our Misplaced Pages page is as up to date as possible and given we recently changed the station logo (along with the 3 other stations I program), I would like to replace the old logo with the new one. If this is considered advertising, then how did the old logo get their in the first place. Also, how do other radio stations go about updating their logos? I realize that Misplaced Pages Moderators deal with numerous issues daily and only have a short time to address each of them, but the response by Jeff G. has left me no apparent recourse, except through this message, and we are stuck with an outdated Misplaced Pages page. Can someone assist further, please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg Diamond 2022 (talk • contribs) 17:21, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

There are two ways to upload files for use at Misplaced Pages: You can upload locally for files that are being claimed as fair use, which will allow very limited use in Misplaced Pages articles. See WP:NFCC for more information. If you are uploading a file for general use across all Wikimedia projects, you would use Wikimedia Commons, but they have much stricter requirements for what can be uploaded; and require you to be the copyright holder of the work you upload, and ALSO require you to release the work under a reuse license such as CC-BY-SA. What you want to do is upload the file locally, fill out the NFCC paperwork for limited use at Misplaced Pages, and then you should be okay. --Jayron32 17:28, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Unless the logo is free of copyright (or the copyright holder wishes to release the copyright for anyone to use, including commercially), it can't be uploaded to Commons. Logos for use on enwiki are usually uploaded to enwiki with a fair use rationale; see advice at WP:logos. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:30, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Dispute Over Moderna Page: Part 2

Hello

User Zefr seems to have taken issue with the following sections on the Moderna page.

Vaccine patent dispute Moderna is involved in a patent dispute with the NIH over its Covid-19 vaccine. Link According to the NIH, three of its scientists played a major role in developing the vaccine. Link The NIH had already been working with the company for four years. Moderna first refuted the claim entirely, and only recently has it backed down. Link

Company culture In 2016, the health oriented news website STAT described Moderna's work environment as "caustic". Employees recounted abusive emails, dressings down at company meetings, exceedingly long hours, high turnover in leadership, and unexplained terminations. Link

Tax avoidance According to the non-profit, Research on Multinational Corporations, Moderna avoids paying corporate taxes through its Swiss subsidiary "Moderna Switzerland GmbH". On top of that, the company registers its patents in U.S. Delaware, where royalties, including vaccine profits, are not taxed at all. Link

According to him, the sections rely on outdated and biased information. He also claims that Moderna's Swiss and Delwaare tax schemes should not be added because they are prevailing. A claim he has so far refused to substantiate.

What needs to be done to improve these sections? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surge Of Reason (talk • contribs) 17:36, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

As you were told at #Dispute Over Moderna Page above, the place for discussion is on the article's talk page. Bringing it here (again) could be regarded as forum shopping. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:39, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

London Gazette template

Trying to tidy up Coronation of Edward VII and Alexandra and found this URL: but when I tried to use Template:London Gazette, which I think should be "No. 27489". The London Gazette. 28 October 1902. p. 6874., it links to a London Gazette page saying "The page you are looking for can't be found". What have I done wrong? Alansplodge (talk) 19:02, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

It's a supplement so |supp=y:

{{London Gazette |issue=27489 |date=28 October 1902 |page=6874 |supp=y}}

"No. 27489". The London Gazette (Supplement). 28 October 1902. p. 6874.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:07, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Ah okay. I tried putting the issue number in the supplement field but it was easier than I thought. Many thanks. Alansplodge (talk) 20:31, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Joe Gatto

I want to ask how do I move a page if a redirect is blocking it? I tried moving Joe Gatto to Joe Gatto (disambiguation) and Joe Gatto (comedian) to Joe Gatto, because the massview analysis shows the comedian gets FAR more views than the 2 others combined but there is a redirect in the way... I am confused first of all as to why Joe Gatto (comedian) is apparently not the primary topic? So how would I go about doing this? --The Tips of Apmh 19:21, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Home video years articles

Hello. Quick question, where did all the home video releases by year articles go? I can't find any of them ZX2006XZ (talk) 20:21, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

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