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  • Hello and welcome to my talk page! Click the + button at the top of the page to create a new discussion or use any of the "edit" buttons to contribute to an already existing discussion.
  • Postings made in the form of haiku will be given first priority.
  • Note: I was once known as Chillum, so perhaps you already know me. HighInBC 20:10, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Merchandise giveaway nomination

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Thank you very much! HighInBC 06:10, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Since I screwed up the ping

It's not an issue directly concerning to you, but since I mentioned your recent discussion with Neutralhomer at WP:AN, I figure I should notify you. See Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#Block_review_of_Neutralhomer. --Floquenbeam (talk) 03:10, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. I am frustrated with this user. I tried to help them and they took an adversarial position with me. I may comment on the discussion, but I will not be supporting an unblock at this time. HighInBC 11:32, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
In the course of catching up with what I've missed the last day or so, I re-read his talk page and your discussion with him, and realized I stepped on your toes a little, bringing this to AN/ANI after you said you'd consider doing so. Sorry. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:37, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
Oh not at all. I did decline to do so after he got impatient, but I mentioned that perhaps another admin would like to. You can give someone advice, but you can't stop them from making a mistake. I knew their request would end badly if made this early, but sometimes people just have to see with their own eyes. HighInBC 00:40, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

If he sticks to not evading his block. I'll support his unblock in April 2022, even though he did (months ago) suggest that I was a bigot or racist, because I questioned another editor's competency. GoodDay (talk) 00:48, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

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18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Given that the IP address will still be visible to vandal fighters I think session based makes the most sense.
However has a hybrid approach been considered? If someone shows up with no cookie using an IP than has been used in the last week just append to it. So User:Anon3406 becomes User:Anon3406-2 or something similar. HighInBC 23:43, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

150.101.157.18

On 10 December, you wrote at User talk:150.101.157.18 that you had blocked the IP from editing. It doesn't seem to have worked (unfortunately, see User talk:150.101.157.18#Caduceus. Not that I'm seeking a 'normal' disruption block - yet. I just thought you might want to know.) --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 15:32, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi John. As with all IP blocks, the block I did was temporary. It was for 2 weeks. It is very common for IPs to change owners. I looked at the IPs most recent editing and am not seeing any clear indication it is the same person. I believe the original block has served its purpose.
If there is a fresh issue with this IP please feel free to let me know here and I will look closer at the matter. HighInBC 23:15, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Ah, ok, I inferred (!) that it had to be a static IP, else why complain? Of course that presupposes that the author knows about such arcane lore, which is a big suppose. "No further action at this time". --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:35, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft Veracity of statements by Joe Biden

greetings: i will ask you because you seem less hysterical than the admin who declined my unblock request. there exists on Misplaced Pages an article on the veracity of statements made by Donald Trump, and if you look at the deleted revisions for the deleted draft (overlooking my juvenile and POV terminology for Pres Biden) you will see quite a few links to reliable sources questioning the truthfulness of Pres Biden. these links could demonstrate notability for this topic imo, but before i even bother with trying to restart the article i would like to ask you whether this article would stand a chance in hell of surviving on Misplaced Pages. plz advise if you would be so kind. sincere thanks, 173.87.170.14 (talk) 00:15, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Articles about living or recently deceased people are held to a much higher standard. Perhaps such an article could exist, however it would be held to those much higher standards. Frankly having read what you wrote I doubt you are willing and able to meet such standards. I suggest you find another subject to contribute to Misplaced Pages on. HighInBC 00:40, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
I also find @Yamla:'s interpretation of your block and the actions leading up to it to be very reasonable and far from "hysterical". This gives me further doubts at your capacity to judge your own writing relative to the standards of the project. HighInBC 00:42, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

well alright im not going to get defensive over that but i think simply the act of asking you versus how i did it before was an improvement but alright sorry i bothered you. 173.87.170.14 (talk) 03:47, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

I don't think it was a competency issue. I think it is a bias issue. That article you wrote was clearly an attack on a political figure you don't like. It was not a mistake based on ignorance, it was an intentional attack page. While I am very confident that I can improve a user who is struggling to understand the goals of Misplaced Pages, I have little confidence that I can convince someone with a strong political bias to act in a neutral fashion. HighInBC 06:24, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi!

You might like to look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:AquitaneHungerForce&diff=prev&oldid=1068820319 Doctorhawkes (talk) 12:03, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

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22:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Lame. HighInBC 02:15, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Artist, actor

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Avoiding edit war

Hello, Last year I got in trouble for edit warring (you denied my appeal), and I would like to avoid that this time. I have changed some of the language I was proposing last year for Peet's Coffee to address some of the objections raised at that time. Some of the editors from that time are knee-jerk reverting/deleting this content without really engaging in good faith on the talk page. I have requested mediation on WP:DNR. One question I have is this: If I am engaged in an edit war with another user, aren't we both guilty of edit warring? This is the aspect of the policy I don't understand. Other users have made little effort to WP:NEGOTIATE, WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM, or WP:DONTBITE. Anaxagoras17 (talk) 00:40, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

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