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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ochakovo (May 20)

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Hello, Ostalgia! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Misplaced Pages where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! HenryTemplo (talk) 15:20, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Good evening. Reasons for rejection are, and I quote, "This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed." There's a grand total of zero references to Ochakovo-published materials, because no part of the article is dependent on material published by the company. The only part of the article that I reckon could be considered "praise" of the company is the mention that the company still holds a relevant position the Russian market in spite of having steadily lost market share. I do not see how saying a company has been steadily displaced can be considered an advertisement for the company (any company).

The second reason appears to be that (and I quote once again) "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Misplaced Pages article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies)." How is the second-largest manufacturer of kvas (by market share) in Russia, as well as a major brewery, not a relevant company? There are literally articles about microbreweries in the far ends of the world with close to zero references and a major beverage manufacturer in a central country is deemed unsuitable?

Furthermore, the sources mentioned in the article are arguably the two largest financial media in Russia. I would argue this speaks both to the "notability" of the firm in question and to the fact that the article in itself is not an "advertisement", as you call it.

I would appreciate clarification, because the arguments cited in this rejection make less than zero sense to me. Ostalgia (talk) 18:17, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ioanno-Predtechensky Monastery has been accepted

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Creating multiple drafts on same subject

Hi Ostalgia, I see you created Draft:Ochakovo and Draft:Ochakovo (Russian beverage company). I suspect you did this because of the note about disambiguation. Actually there was no action you needed to take. If accepted, the reviewer will move it to the appropriate title. In order to maintain a complete history for attribution and other purposes there should be only one draft about a subject. I did add a note to Draft:Ochakovo (Russian beverage company) referring to the original draft to make things clear. Just be sure going forward you stick to one draft, which I am assuming will be Draft:Ochakovo (Russian beverage company).

No worries. There was no way for you know this and it appears you are the only major contributor to both so likely no need for a history merge or the like (creates a headache). S0091 (talk) 18:30, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

My apologies, thanks for the heads up. Ostalgia (talk) 18:44, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ochakovo (Russian beverage company) has been accepted

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Eugenio Bulygin moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Eugenio Bulygin, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Misplaced Pages). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Misplaced Pages's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:41, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

You could've waited for a while as I literally stated I was going to be referencing everything today. Everything posted there is verifiable, you can do it yourself if you're so impatient. We're dealing with a top legal philosopher of the 20th century, not some obscure figure from the middle ages. I spent half of yesterday fixing an article that had remained unsourced and orphaned for literally over a decade and you can't even wait 24 hours even though it has been stated by the editor? Seriously, what is wrong with you people? Ostalgia (talk) 06:28, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

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