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Precious
serve edit requests
Thank you for quality articles such as Jesse Lawson and Rosetta Lawson, for Shit flow diagram, and rescuing articles from draft, for handling thousands of edit requests cheerfully and volunteer to do cleaning work, for a cute user name and other humour on display, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
You are recipient no. 2761 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I'm glad you like the picture of Thelma. Hopefully some time I get a similarly nice picture of Penelope and my cats, and I can feature them on my userpage as well. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:44, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- looking forward to that --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:00, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
- thank you for your sensible thanks below - I told you crats can think --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- travel and strings sound = more pics if you like--Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:39, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
Revdel
Hi there. :-) I would urge you to review the revdel criteria in more detail, as your RFA answer indicates you would use it in more circumstances than I think appropriate. I'm not going to back off my support, but it does raise concerns for me. Thanks. :) SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:50, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- I read the documentation before leaping in so much that it has drawn suspicion, so rest easy knowing I'll be rereading all the applicable policies before taking any actions. I'm interested to hear what concerns you have so I can take them on board for consideration while I reread the policies. You also have the goggles, so if you'd like, at some point, I can email you some of the borderline cases I've sent up. All of that of course depends on the outcome, which is far from certain. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:08, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Well, with
I finally knew I was a homosexual and it was ok...
, I would definitely have declined that as run-of-the-mill vandalism. I probably would have looked at the editor's other recent comments to see if a block was called for, but I think that removing it from the visible text would have been sufficient remedy. (Otoh, if the slur had been "pedophile" instead, that I might well have RDed - that sort of accusation can ruin lives more thoroughly than the other.) I probably would have just reverted the Veronica Ivy edit request, instead of RDing it like Thryduulf did. I don't know, I'm probably not the best person to be giving advice on how to admin. Good luck! SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:37, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Well, with
AIV decline
Thanks for cluing me in. However, admins should not be having to be learning about this after the fact. The bots and the filter are sometimes there enough to mention this ... they should have been here. Because without context I have to go on good faith ... Daniel Case (talk) 21:47, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- No worries. With the number of niche LTAs around it happens. I think the reason it wasn't as obvious was because a lot of their normal targets are blocked right now. I thought the cointelpro edit was regular vandalism until I saw the superstar edit. I don't normally template them, just report to aiv. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:54, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Daniel Case, pinging in case you're not watching. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:55, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- They tripped Filter 1131, which specifically notes that it's to prevent edits from this LTA. Not sure if you can seen the filter though? It's set to hidden.-- Jezebel's Ponyo 22:02, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Also meant for Daniel Case, whom I also failed to ping.-- Jezebel's Ponyo 22:04, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- I can see it, but in the filter reports I usually look at the topmost one, and at the other ones only if there's a lot (Also for what action the filter decides to take ... if it's a "Warn", then I'll look at that one (Maybe ones geared to a particular LTA should result in that action?). The minimal activity here was something that motivated my response (also, at the time, the edits to COINTELPRO had not yet been made).
It seems that maybe we should find some better way of highlighting the possibility of an LTA being turned up by the filter. Daniel Case (talk) 22:10, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- They tripped Filter 1131, which specifically notes that it's to prevent edits from this LTA. Not sure if you can seen the filter though? It's set to hidden.-- Jezebel's Ponyo 22:02, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Best wishes from Clovermoss
Root vegetable courage | |
Hi ScottishFinnishRadish! I noticed that the 7 days are finally over but that your RfA is still pending closure/potential crat chat. I just wanted to say that regardless of what happens, I think you demonstrated tremendous courage in sticking this out. I couldn't figure out a good barnstar for this so I figured I'd make my own featuring a radish. :) Clovermoss (talk) 22:47, 19 September 2022 (UTC) |
- Thanks, much appreciated. I'll definitely be glad when it's actually closed, though. Quite the ride. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:49, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, it has been. Geez. I think that's the most questions I've ever seen in an RfA. Let alone everything else. I can't imagine what it'd be like to spend an entire week like this, so you have my utmost sympathies. Closure of some kind will probrably help. Clovermoss (talk) 22:54, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- That must have been grueling for you. I was unhappy and disappointed with the tone of some of the opposes. I don't know if you are a drinker, but if you are, you deserve a double bourbon on the rocks, or whatever your favorite is. Cullen328 (talk) 22:58, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- The State of Kentucky offers several good cask-strength options. What could happen to an Old-fashioned? Chris Troutman (talk) 23:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- I think I have some bitters left, but I'm more of a straight bourbon guy. Before we got married my wife bought me a 5 liter barrel to keep bourbon in, and even putting in a middling quality gives a pretty smooth drink after a few weeks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:04, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Also, Chris troutman, at least it didn't come down to 74.98 percent like I was expecting. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:06, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm enjoying a Shipyard Smashed Pumpkin Ale right now, which is 9%. My father in law got me a nice bottle of Bulleit bourbon for my birthday, and I'm thinking I may pop the cork on that as well. Many of the opposes were insightful and helpful, but others, not so much. And now I get to wait on the crat chat to start. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:02, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- It's started, so at least that part's over. Clovermoss (talk) 01:56, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- The State of Kentucky offers several good cask-strength options. What could happen to an Old-fashioned? Chris Troutman (talk) 23:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- I appears that Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Tamzin had 36 questions, of which 30 were answered. Speaking of Tamzin, she has stated in her RfA debrief that the 'crat chat was the easiest part. I do not envy her RfA (or any RfA, for that matter). But I hope knowing that this is the "easy" part is a small comfort to you. Let us know if you need another drink or two; they are really cheap onwiki. There are at least 234 people that would be happy to pour you one. Here's hoping Z1720 has a baton for you soon enough. HouseBlaster 02:28, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- I really appreciate the support. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:12, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- That must have been grueling for you. I was unhappy and disappointed with the tone of some of the opposes. I don't know if you are a drinker, but if you are, you deserve a double bourbon on the rocks, or whatever your favorite is. Cullen328 (talk) 22:58, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, it has been. Geez. I think that's the most questions I've ever seen in an RfA. Let alone everything else. I can't imagine what it'd be like to spend an entire week like this, so you have my utmost sympathies. Closure of some kind will probrably help. Clovermoss (talk) 22:54, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Worst co-nominator ever
I've already offered mea culpas privately to SFR, but wanted to let the rest of the talk page stalkers know that I was *supposed* to be the co-nominator, but the timing of this RFA unfortunately coincided with my lowest-availability (family obligations) in many years, and by the time I was able to get back on the computer for more than 2 minutes, it was already in the 'crat stage. Worst case scenario if you don't succeed this time, I'd be happy to co-nominate for the next attempt. OhNoitsJamie 17:57, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- No worries Jamie. I wasn't expecting Vanamonde93 to open it quite so quick, and once he did people noticed almost immediately. That kinda spurred the need to just go for it. I knew there was a chance you'd be too busy, so that's on me. I'm pretty certain that however this turns out I won't be standing at RFA again. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:05, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
At least there are no more *!&#*$ questions to answer
The truly shitty part is over; I found my crat chat less stressful than the RFA itself just because there was no longer anything I had to do. You handled yourself with grace. It's a rough time to try to be an admin; everyone is so bloodthirsty about everything everywhere all the time. Floquenbeam (talk) 17:32, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- To be honest, the questions didn't bother me, although the implication that I should have skipped work to answer quicker did. I'm naturally inclined to explain my reasoning, and since responding to people is frowned upon, it's the only route I had to do so, excepting the one reply I did make.
- A lot of it baffled me a bit, with opposition based on not enough experience in contentious areas, and too much editing in contentious areas. Looking at my bare edit counts on notice boards, rather than any specific edits showing I was lurking for drama.
- I guess now I'll wait and see. Also, number one RFA reform, automatic closure at the end of the week. Having an actual deadline to look forward to makes it easier, and watching it roll on by wasn't great. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- I hope you write a debrief after because I'm dying to know how you thought this was going to go as compared to how it went. Also what your wife has to say about cratchats. Levivich (talk) 18:15, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- If you're wondering how I thought it would turn out, here's a few snipped from emails with Vanamonde93 when he first brought up me running for RFA.
I really do appreciate it, but I already have one job I don't get paid enough for. Also, I can almost guarantee I would fail due to the GSoW Arbcom case. I'm always interested in critiques for my editing, though, and I'm interested in what you'd suggest. Thanks for reaching out... For RfA, there's also the fact that a decent number of editors I've interacted with believe I'm a sock. Again, if you saw my earlier OS emails, before I made an email address for wiki-business, you saw my real name, so you can reasonably assume I'm not a deep-cover operative, but that doesn't really prove anything, especially to people who don't have that information. Even after emailing my personal information to Arbcom when Spartaz accused me of being a sock I still ended up blocked, and had to disclose my employer to UTRS. A couple little things like that and the Arbcom case can easily swamp an RfA.
- Also, from an email with El C,
Oh and just so it's recorded before the RFA starts, I'm expecting a fail at 65-75 percent.
- I'm a goddamn psychic. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:36, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Those must be the two most persuasive salesmen in history. Levivich (talk) 19:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- When Vanamonde93 reached out to me since months after our first exchange I had recently seen and helped deal with a fair bit of talk page harassment and other LTA shenanigans. I figured that it would be worth it to reduce the response time on some of that, and that there's no time like the present. 18 months and nearly 30k edits would give people as much information as any other amount of time or edits, so here we are.
- El C didn't approach me, I approached them, since I believed they had never nominated someone, and also they're my number one arc enemy. I also see them on my watchlist all the time, protecting pages and the like, and have respect for their admin work.
- I approached another admin about a nomination, but they declined, presciently noting the clusterfuck it was going to be.
- I also approached Jamie, because they're one of the first admins I interacted with and grew to respect, and we've popped up at the same disputes quite a few times, and they're familiar with my editing.
- In hindsight, I should have waited for Spartaz to reach out too. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Levivich: If there's one thing I'm known for in RL, it's not letting go of a problem just because it's difficult :) I'd like to think I was persuasive. I'm feeling a bit guilty for having been persuasive and having put SFR through this crap. Oh well. Crat-chat's still on the edge, could still be worth it. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I spoke too soon, or too pessimistically. It looks like you're good. I for one am glad I don't have to persuade you to do it again in 12 months :) Vanamonde (Talk) 20:37, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I don't know that you would have been able to. That was quite the experience. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thought as much. It was, indeed. Mine was quite unpleasant in similar ways, in that there were lots of aspersions and comments questioning integrity. But for the most part experienced users were very much in my corner, the admin vote broke 70-1, IIRC...yours was rather different. I'm glad there was acknowledgement of how off-base some of the opposition was. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:18, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I don't know that you would have been able to. That was quite the experience. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I spoke too soon, or too pessimistically. It looks like you're good. I for one am glad I don't have to persuade you to do it again in 12 months :) Vanamonde (Talk) 20:37, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Those must be the two most persuasive salesmen in history. Levivich (talk) 19:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- If you're wondering how I thought it would turn out, here's a few snipped from emails with Vanamonde93 when he first brought up me running for RFA.
- (e/c) Different things bug different people, I guess; I felt like 1/2 of my questions were of the "perform for me, dancing monkey!" type. I found that so much more annoying than the wait. Anyway, good luck. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- I hope you write a debrief after because I'm dying to know how you thought this was going to go as compared to how it went. Also what your wife has to say about cratchats. Levivich (talk) 18:15, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Amen. My massive debrief from 2021 — not completely accurate to how I feel about my run now ("I guess" would change to "yes"). The crat chat was the easier part, as at that point there was little else for me to do. The hard part was waiting for half a week for the chat to close, but it fortunately looks like that won't be happening for you. Good luck. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 19:38, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's quite a read, and I certainly recognize those feels. I don't know that I would write a whole thing like that, I much prefer discussions to essays. Also I always feel when I'm writing an essay style thing that no one is going to be reading it, whereas in a discussion there's the back and forth, and the questions and replies can lead me to provide better understanding. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:02, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hopefully they decide in your favor. You seem to have run into a couple of veteran users with some pretty serious sticks they continue to clutch furiously and refuse to set down...behavior that wouldn't be tolerated if they weren't so veteran. I fully expect the normal round of pearl-clutching about there "not being enough admins" to begin in short order if this RfA doesn't succeed. My activity has never been especially high, and it's those kind of antics that keep it that way. Still, for what it might be worth, I think you'd make a fine admin. Not being a major content creator also means you're not vested in particular areas and can weigh in on conduct instead of content. Intothatdarkness 22:53, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- I appreciate the well wishes and the confidence in my ability. I've always tried to get involved in topics where I have no interest because when I was just a back page lurker I'd often see that if there were just a little more input or one more disinterested party, a logjam could be broken. That's why I try and stay on top of my RFC bot notices. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:05, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'd like to add my thanks for your mature, detached RfA behavior. You stayed engaged in the process and handled questions in an adult manner. One way or the other, I appreciate your extended effort and hope to see you around when this clears. If I can be of help, feel invited to call on me. BusterD (talk) 01:57, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm sure I'll have plenty of questions, and plenty of times when I need a hand. I'll make sure to reach out the first time I accidentally block myself. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:38, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
I cannot promise "to the death"
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That being illegal (and, much more importantly, T&S-indeffable), but I can offer some mediocre chess skills, if desired. Shamelessly copied from theleekycauldron's better implementation. -- Tamzin (she|they|xe) 22:58, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- To be honest, I'm not much of a chess player :/ I'm just good enough to enrage my wife's old roommate. Now go, there's a game I'll play for hours. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:01, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- What the hell. Kings pawn to 4. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:08, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Queen's pawn to 6. Also, just realized you said "against death". But hopefully I'm a decent stand-in. -- Tamzin (she|they|xe) 23:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, isn't that an iconic scene? I think I saw it in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- You're dating yourself. Levivich (talk) 23:39, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- I talked to Bons Courage about playing MajorMud and Swords of Chaos, I think that's worse. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:41, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- You're dating yourself. Levivich (talk) 23:39, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, isn't that an iconic scene? I think I saw it in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Queen's pawn to 6. Also, just realized you said "against death". But hopefully I'm a decent stand-in. -- Tamzin (she|they|xe) 23:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- ability to implement a user talk page chessboard: proficient
- ability to not get my rook forked like a 700-rated newbie by Extraordinary Writ: next to none :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 23:18, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- We're about to see my ability to get mollywhopped by Tamzin. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oh you are massively overselling me. I have a decent endgame from a childhood spent losing to my grandfather. But, emphasis on "losing". Also I fucked up the parser function in the template there. As I often quote in edit summaries when I break things, "Support. We need more admins with strong technical skills". (Don't think that's a quote from anyone in particular, but, general sentiment.) Anyways, h5. -- Tamzin (she|they|xe) 00:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I have strong technical skills, but I still fuck up wiki stuff all the time. Every time I move a page in certain I'm going to end the world. KB to QB4. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:31, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, pagemoves terrified me for the longest time. I only started making them with any regularity when I got pagemover as part of SPI clerking. Although I think that was partly colored by my early years as an editor, when bad moves could only be reversed by an admin; I never quite shook that sense. QB G4 -- Tamzin (she|they|xe) 01:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I think you let me win, but checkmate. I'm sure that I'd be more comfortable with moves if it's something I ever did, but it seldom comes up for me. I just got an email from a well wisher that reminded me of . There's me scaring off me editors with my demeanor. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, pagemoves terrified me for the longest time. I only started making them with any regularity when I got pagemover as part of SPI clerking. Although I think that was partly colored by my early years as an editor, when bad moves could only be reversed by an admin; I never quite shook that sense. QB G4 -- Tamzin (she|they|xe) 01:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I have strong technical skills, but I still fuck up wiki stuff all the time. Every time I move a page in certain I'm going to end the world. KB to QB4. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:31, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oh you are massively overselling me. I have a decent endgame from a childhood spent losing to my grandfather. But, emphasis on "losing". Also I fucked up the parser function in the template there. As I often quote in edit summaries when I break things, "Support. We need more admins with strong technical skills". (Don't think that's a quote from anyone in particular, but, general sentiment.) Anyways, h5. -- Tamzin (she|they|xe) 00:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Seems like you're using the winning strategy pioneered in WarGames :P Elli (talk | contribs) 23:25, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- "how about a nice game of nuclear war?" :P theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 23:38, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- We're about to see my ability to get mollywhopped by Tamzin. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm happy to be the commentator for the match. So far, the early game is following along the well-studied Roy Rogers line, though German players and those influenced by the German greats (Schultz, Weltanschauung) usually call it Witz des Lügners. Solid play so far, and best of luck to both! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:34, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Tamzin's bold bishop move gains her some tempo, and play is now at allegretto. Close bishop-queen contact like this is uncommon in both chess and the Russian monarchical court. Catherine the Great infamously flaunted tradition in both those areas. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I almost got my move in before you made the commentary. I beat Tamzin (she let me win), does that mean I'm an admin now? There can be only one! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:24, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- The hardest part was not giving it away! SFR wins with the ever-popular baller's mate, first theorized by Dr. Julius Irving himself. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- There's been some mumbling amongst the judges. Please stand by while they confer. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:28, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Wow, folks! It's not over yet! Tamzin has one mate-ending move to make, called (since the 16th century) the Anbaric Slide. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- If that a fancy way of saying "flip the table?" ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:35, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Not quite! One of the ball boys couldn't hold it back anymore and yelled out "King to D7!". The bailiff has removed him from the chambers, and the judges beg forgiveness. This exact set of events played out in an 1883 Bohemian match between Iggy and Los Stooges, but the ball boy was a bell boy. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:45, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- If that a fancy way of saying "flip the table?" ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:35, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Wow, folks! It's not over yet! Tamzin has one mate-ending move to make, called (since the 16th century) the Anbaric Slide. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's the extent of my chess knowledge, and I promise that I did not use an anal signaling device to win! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:29, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- There's been some mumbling amongst the judges. Please stand by while they confer. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:28, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
There can be only one!
Is this the point where you declare yourself to be an immortal? All said in your best Sean Connery brogue? Sideswipe9th (talk) 01:42, 21 September 2022 (UTC)- Time to tank any chance I have for any advanced permissions. Hot take incoming: Adrian Paul is the superior Highlander. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:44, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- The hardest part was not giving it away! SFR wins with the ever-popular baller's mate, first theorized by Dr. Julius Irving himself. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I almost got my move in before you made the commentary. I beat Tamzin (she let me win), does that mean I'm an admin now? There can be only one! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:24, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Tamzin's bold bishop move gains her some tempo, and play is now at allegretto. Close bishop-queen contact like this is uncommon in both chess and the Russian monarchical court. Catherine the Great infamously flaunted tradition in both those areas. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- congrats'--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! I feel more I'm probably not going to jinx anything by saying that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:19, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
Congratulations
Please wait 3-5 business days before banning your arch-rivals. — Ixtal ⁂ Non nobis solum. 21:35, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I will prepare a list of suggestions. Levivich (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- El C is finally gonna get theirs! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:37, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Conversely, do not unblock your allies under the guise of ending a long national nightmare. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:41, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Block reason: "botched blocking admin's username" OhNoitsJamie 21:42, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Congratulations. Remember that adminship is not a big deal and this website is supposed to be fun. Andre🚐 21:39, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Congratulations. Please make sure to let it go to your head. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 21:45, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Congratulations. Remember, EEng may scoff if you block him for a bit, but his talk page stalkers will tear you a new one, so be warned.... Ritchie333 21:47, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Ritchie333 did you know the E in EEng stands for EEng? It's EEngs all the way down. — Ixtal ⁂ Non nobis solum. 21:48, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm so far down at this point I have to look up to look down. EEng 23:58, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Ritchie333 did you know the E in EEng stands for EEng? It's EEngs all the way down. — Ixtal ⁂ Non nobis solum. 21:48, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Per Ritchie, you can practice blocking users by either blocking User:Example or by blocking EEng. I've gotta say, you made me question what I should do, more times than I could remember, but I'm glad I ended up supporting. So, fist, do no harm. I mean, first do no harm, and don't punch me. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:51, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Well done ScottishFinnishRadish. scope_creep 21:49, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
Sweet Jesus, someone tell me where the addon to disable rollback from my watchlist is before I end up at arbcom because my cat jumped on my lap. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:59, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hmm, I don't think it's Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot, but that might help control where your cat jumps. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:09, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:Customizing_watchlists#rollback, perhaps? Congratulations from me as well, by the way: I'm sure I speak for (almost) all of the opposers in saying that we wish you only the best. Cheers, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:09, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's the ticket, thanks. I also appreciate the well wishes. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:26, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Go to Special:MyPage/common.css and add
.mw-rollback-link {display: none;}
- one of the first things I did after I got the bit. Ritchie333 22:36, 21 September 2022 (UTC)- I didn't have rollback before this, and was amazed it would be right on the watchlist. I removed the links entirely. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:38, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hi SFR. I had the exact same reaction when I got rollback. Also, because I use recent changes often enough, I found it more comfortable to hide the rollback buttons there as well. In other words, I only use rollback from diffs and user contribs. Just my preference, but if you ever think you want to disable rollback on WL and RC, it's done similarly and would look like this in your common.css:
- I didn't have rollback before this, and was amazed it would be right on the watchlist. I removed the links entirely. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:38, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
.mw-special-Watchlist .mw-rollback-link, .mw-special-Recentchanges .mw-rollback-link{ display: none; }
- But the real reason I'm here is to second what Extraordinary Writ has said. An opposer myself, yes indeed I wish you all the best:-) Congratulations! --DB1729 05:03, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- Congratulations! We really need an "I-survived the Crat Chat" shirt... Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 00:28, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Victory Fanfare
GG. El_C 21:38, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, and thanks for trusting me enough for the co-nom. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:40, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- For sure. First and last, though. El_C 21:46, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I don't blame you. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:47, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- For sure. First and last, though. El_C 21:46, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
Your RFA
Congratulations!
It is my great pleasure to inform you that your Request for Adminship has closed successfully and you are now an administrator!
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— xaosflux 21:39, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- You have successfully run through the gauntlet. It wasn't pretty but at least it's over. Congratulations. Cullen328 (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Now it's time for that double bourbon! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:49, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Congrats! You demonstrated thoughtful poise and good humor during a gruelling process. May your adminship be further confirmation of these qualities. Cheers! Jusdafax (talk) 21:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Congratulations! Yngvadottir (talk) 21:55, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Now that the Airing of Grievances is over, we can proceed to the feats of strength. Congratulations. Indignant Flamingo (talk) 22:05, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yoooooo congrats! I decided to see what the status of this was, and saw that it had been decided just a bit ago. SWinxy (talk) 22:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Congratulations! (also: told you so!) Here's your T-shirt! -- MelanieN (talk) 22:41, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Well done SFR! CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 00:42, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- My foremost congratulations. :) Vaticidalprophet 09:14, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Congratulations! --Ferien (talk) 12:34, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- A Gin Blossoms album comes to mind here. Welcome aboard! RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:48, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- A very sincere congratulations on becoming one of the few prestigious administrators on this amazing project, cheers! Johnson524 (Talk!) 03:26, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, ScottishFinnishRadish! Looks like I'm a little late but congratulations on surviving an RFA! I hope you find working as an admin satisfying work. Do not hesitate to reach out to veteran admins if you have any questions. We have some admins that focus on particular areas while others are more well-rounded and know a bit about a lot of things. I'm sure there is someone who can offer you a second opinion, it's just a matter of tracking down the right person. Good luck! Liz 00:12, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! I've been reaching out quite a bit already, and as you can see below, others are reaching out to me. So far it's been pretty satisfying, although a bit intimidating. Hopefully I'll catch my stride soon. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:24, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
Congratulations
A well-deserved Piña colada | |
For staying the distance and keeping your cool through one of the messiest RFAs I have seen. Welcome to the mop corps. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:23, 21 September 2022 (UTC) |
- My talk page and email are always available, should you wish to discuss anything. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:23, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks a ton, I'm sure I'll be reaching out for advice on revdels and the like. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Congratulations! I would recommend raiding scripts of other admins (so common.js files) at some point and seeing what useful tools you can borrow...long term . --TheSandDoctor 23:02, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's on my list of things to do. I've seen the response helper tag quite often, and that looks like it'll be handy. Thanks! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
Congrats!
Been offline for a couple of days although just remembered about your RfA, congratulations on succeeding, I think you are a fabulous editor and will do great as an administrator. Have a great day! 🥂 Blanchey (talk) 22:41, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
Congrats. I just placed your order, be here in about a week. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:18, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Should ordered it Amazon prime, probably going to need it soon. Does answering full protection edit requests count as an admin action? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- Editing protected pages requires the mop, obviously, but isn't logged in any way, and isn't normally counted among admin actions. If it ever became an issue for counting activity, I imagine it would be taken into account per IAR. I've taken somewhat more admin actions than the table on my userpage suggests, given edits to ITN and DYK. Vanamonde (Talk) 00:28, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Well, I have a block and a page protection now, so I'm moving up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:29, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Editing protected pages requires the mop, obviously, but isn't logged in any way, and isn't normally counted among admin actions. If it ever became an issue for counting activity, I imagine it would be taken into account per IAR. I've taken somewhat more admin actions than the table on my userpage suggests, given edits to ITN and DYK. Vanamonde (Talk) 00:28, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Oh please do not ever block me - FlightTime (open channel) 23:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
BTW: I forgot to say it above, but in addition to your crappy T-shirt, you are now entitled to some serious admin bling. Check this out: User:MelanieN/Admin bling. Also, since you said you might take up article protection as one of your activities, you can read my advice on the subject here: User:MelanieN/Page protection. Enjoy your new tools! -- MelanieN (talk) 02:22, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
A baton for you!
A baton for you! | |
Continuing the tradition originally started by Tamzin for DanCherek's RfA, I'd like to pass the baton to you as Misplaced Pages's newest administrator. Well done on your RfA! Good luck, and long live the baton!
It might have been a bit of a slog, but your conduct in the RfA showed why you deserve the mop. I hope this won't discourage you from seeking to be a great admin, and that you will encourage others to run so that the baton doesn't remain in your hands for too long. Feel free to contact me if you need anything. Z1720 (talk) 23:50, 21 September 2022 (UTC) |
- @Z1720: I think you might have copied this incorrectly, it wasn't unanimous :) Nythar 00:02, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- I forgot to copyedit the first part. Goes to show that mistakes will always happen! Thanks for pointing this out. Z1720 (talk) 00:51, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Congratulations! I hope you are able to enjoy a drink or two, and have some fun. If sh*t happens, you now have a new mop to clean up with!
- When I came by to offer congratulations, I noticed that the baton image appears to have a caption in the image file itself. I have uploaded a cropped version. I was also able to take the opportunity to relicense the image to CC BY-SA 4.0, which is an international license (the license of the current image version is specifically written for German law). Would you be able to pass this version of the baton to whomever earns it next? HouseBlaster 01:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'll sure try to, but I might need a reminder when the time comes. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:21, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- It appears that you don't need the reminder, but I set a calendar reminder a week ago to come here and issue one.
Really enjoyed your Signpost article! I definitely see the benefit in your suggestion to automatically close RfAs after exactly 7 days; I have raised this at WT:RFA. HouseBlaster 16:51, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- It appears that you don't need the reminder, but I set a calendar reminder a week ago to come here and issue one.
- I'll sure try to, but I might need a reminder when the time comes. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:21, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Thanks
I was trying for a while to to respond to everyone, but I lost track and now I'm far behind, so I'm going to go with this. Thanks to everyone who participated in the RFA, thanks for all the support, and all the congratulations. I have a lot of thoughts on this, and maybe I'll decide to write a debrief or what have you, though that's generally not my thing. I do have a few short points though:
- I read every support, and paid attention to the caveats, suggestions, and warnings. I appreciate the confidence and support, and the critiques. As always, all I can do is try to do better.
- I also read every oppose, and although there were a lot of things I believe were incorrect or uninformed, there was a lot more that was worth consideration. I'll be thinking on a lot of this over the next few days, and be going back over the RFA in the future once I've had some time to fully process. I hope that in time I'll prove myself to be an acceptable admin.
- If anyone has an issue with my actions, admin or otherwise, feel free to stop by and let me know. I may not agree, but I'll always listen, discuss, and consider.
- Dumuzid says it best, reasonable people may disagree.
ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:47, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Whenever I see these post-RfA orgies of congratulation, I think of Pepys (Christmas Day, 1665):
To church in the morning, and there saw a wedding in the church, which I have not seen many a day; and the young people so merry one with another, and strange to see what delight we married people have to see these poor fools decoyed into our condition, every man and woman gazing and smiling at them.
EEng 03:16, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Congrats! If you turn out to be some sort of sock I shall be very annoyed. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:11, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- What Gråbergs said. But since you're a janitor now we may perhaps at least expect that you'll see yourself to the laundry room. Just be careful in your daily duties not to use too much water and/or corrosive cleaning products where it's not necessary. Good luck! ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 12:30, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Congratulations! Though I feel I must tell you I have revised my credo; it is now "agree with me or face the dire consequences, immediately and forever." As I said at the RfA, I have no doubt you'll be the kind of administrator Misplaced Pages needs. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 12:44, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- So you read everything except the neutrals? Good to know. Bishonen | tålk 19:46, 22 September 2022 (UTC).
- I assure you that SFR read those, too. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:48, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- ..? Incidentally, I liked your neutral, Chris troutman. It was perfectly logical, and the people who criticised it were being silly, IMO. Bishonen | tålk 19:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC).
- I read the whole thing as it happened, and reread it several times throughout. I read your view almost the moment you added it. I agree that my communication at the arbcom case could have better handled or better targeted. I get that I came off as seeking blood, but I would have been happier with a general warning for civility in the topic area than the targeted warning. The only thing I wanted to see out of the case that I didn't was some sort of reminder or even sanction addressing the COI editing. That turns out to have been a moot point though, since as far as I know, that editing stopped anyway. Arbcom was right in not sanctioning anyone over that, and in that circumstance, they used the minimum necessary to prevent that issue.
- I've mentioned before, and I still think RP would have gotten a warning if they had backed off the negative BLP stuff during the case. I have them notice on their talk page rather than reporting them, and before they got brought to AE I had reached out to some other editors to see if anyone would let them know that they had violated the topic ban, since I assumed they really didn't want to hear from me. I really don't like seeing good faith editors, especially those who've written some great articles, blocked.
- At JP Sears I really tried to ring everything I could put of the sourcing available. I didn't know anything about them before seeing a noticeboard posting about the article and looking into it. After reading all the sources it's pretty clear that he was an anti-covid science shill, but none of them actually said that. I probably should have disengaged a bit from done of the back and forth, and I was really hoping to get consensus for something that hit all the points, but no dice on that.
- I also really appreciate that you think I've done good stuff, because that's really what I try to do.
- When I read your position at my RFA that is, in part, what I was thinking about it. Arbcom cases are seldom a good showing for anybody, and I really tried at JP Sears, and did what I could to keep the over the top defender from derailing things while still keeping to my understanding of BLP and other policies. I'm disappointed that I didn't handle that in a way that would give you more confidence in me.
- I hope that details a bit of what I was on my mind when reading what you wrote. This is also why I don't think I really want to write a full after action report. When I said above that I have a lot of thoughts about everything said at the RFA, I mean I have a lot of thoughts. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:09, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- I assure you that SFR read those, too. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:48, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Having had a very contentious RFA myself, I'd just like to recommend to you that you don't overanalyze your RFA, move on from it and, as soon as possible, forget who supported your candidacy and who opposed it. You'll soon find yourself working with admins and editors who argued that you shouldn't be an admin and now that the RFA is over, it doesn't really matter. You just do a good job and prove that the naysayers misjudged your potential. Good luck! Liz 00:31, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Congrats! Very glad to see you passed :) Elli (talk | contribs) 21:26, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Admin's Barnstar | |
Congrats on passing your RFA. Hope to see you editing around more, even though you are now |
- Just wanted to offer my congratulations also! Thank you Blaze Wolf for giving the barnstar! SPF121188 19:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Finally
Congratulations... that was like going 12 rounds with Mike Tyson.
The Original Barnstar | ||
Dilligence in the face of a Mike Tyson RfA... Congratulations! It's me... Sallicio! 12:33, 22 September 2022 (UTC) |
- Congrats! -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:05, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- If you need any help with the tools, or, more likely, want to write a few more GAs, you know where my talk is. Lee Vilenski 22:05, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- I damn near shit my pants each of the few times I've hit the block button, sure than I'm going to fuck something up, despite checking and double checking contribs and trying to make sure all my settings are right, so I'm sure I'll have questions about the tools at some point.
- There's a whole cluster of notable late 19th century and early 20th century educators and activists around Frelinghuysen University that are surprisingly overlooked on Misplaced Pages. From early spring to mid fall is normally pretty busy for me, because along with my job, I have a small farm that requires a lot of upkeep. I was able to get Rosetta and Jesse Lawson's articles done due to lulls at work, and next time that happens I'm planning on working on the university article. If that doesn't happen in the next couple months, I'll dedicate some personal time to work on it. I don't have a big winter project this year (100+ hours building a bed last winter), so I'm hoping to spend some of that time knocking out articles around the university. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:20, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- If you need any help with the tools, or, more likely, want to write a few more GAs, you know where my talk is. Lee Vilenski 22:05, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
It's crazy to see how uncivil a discussion over a few extra buttons could be, but you got through it. Enjoy your janitorial position!
—VersaceSpace 🌃 14:12, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
IP-block exemption
Hey, I took the liberty of removing your temporary IP block exemption. It is automatically included as an administrator (congratulations, btw). See WP:IPBE. If you think this is a problem, although I can't see why (but what do I know?), feel free to restore the privilege.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:57, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- No worries. I actually let the admin who granted it know I didn't need it months ago. I assume the message got missed in the day to day scrum. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:01, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: In this particular case it's apparently irrelevant, but just in case you didn't already know there is sometimes a good reason for an administrator having IP block exemption. The version of IPBE which administrators get automatically doesn't include Tor blocks, whereas the version that the IPBE bit confers does. That is relevant to, for example, administrators who live in the "People's" Republic of China. JBW (talk) 19:34, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- @JBW: Thanks, I should have read the footnote at IPBE. I'll make sure not to edit while in China. BTW, it's kind of silly not to give administrators the "full" exemption given that they can add the privilege anyway.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:51, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: Yes, that's exactly what I have thought ever since I discovered that it works like that. JBW (talk) 20:41, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's not like auto patrolled, where an admin may still want extra eyes on their work and therefore doesn't assign themself the right. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:10, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: Yes, that's exactly what I have thought ever since I discovered that it works like that. JBW (talk) 20:41, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- @JBW: Thanks, I should have read the footnote at IPBE. I'll make sure not to edit while in China. BTW, it's kind of silly not to give administrators the "full" exemption given that they can add the privilege anyway.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:51, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: In this particular case it's apparently irrelevant, but just in case you didn't already know there is sometimes a good reason for an administrator having IP block exemption. The version of IPBE which administrators get automatically doesn't include Tor blocks, whereas the version that the IPBE bit confers does. That is relevant to, for example, administrators who live in the "People's" Republic of China. JBW (talk) 19:34, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
Thank for quick fix
Thank you for being so quick to fix the non-constructive/incorrect edits to Bruce Campbell's website. It was an experiment to show my science class that Misplaced Pages was a reliable resource for information. Not perfect....nothing is....but incorrect edits ARE addressed quickly. So when the two comments were corrected (by you) before class was even over....it helped prove my point in a definitive way. I'm done editing now. :-) Thecritterguy (talk) 17:37, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Thecritterguy:
I'm done editing now.
Let's all hope so; otherwise, you're likely to be blocked. God help your students.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:21, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Felicitations
A bit belated, but best wishes all the same. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:26, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Also, great work on your patrolling. Every time I try to get a bit of AIV practice I find you've already taken care of it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:43, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Congratulations
Congratulations! Sorry for being late to the party, but I only just realised that the 'crat chat had concluded. 08:06, 24 September 2022 (UTC) Cordless Larry (talk) 08:06, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, and much appreciated. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:46, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
Someone's bored
Special:CentralAuth/ScottishFinishRadish. Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:10, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- I think a few months back there was a ScottishFinnishRadishisanIdiot or something similar. Having my own trolls makes me feel like I've made it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:36, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- Ya'll mus' be doin' somethin' right. Hope you thoroughly enjoy adminship! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. 20:58, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
slàinte mhath, terveisiä Las Vegasista, and turnips ho!
I am horrified to discover I hadn’t !yessed you from the outset. (It has been a weird time at work.) Would it only have been because you’re apparently not a villain and I really love saying “Scottishfinnishradish” out loud in three different accents every time I read it? I am really happy this went your way. Rooty-tooty-rutabaga! - Julietdeltalima (talk) 21:34, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, much appreciated. I would like to confess that until just now I've always read your name as Juliet da llama. Not sure how I misread it so severely. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:39, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
hahaha! that’s way more interesting! It’s just ham-radio-ese for my initials; my best female friend Juliet from professional school 30 years ago vacillates between finding my objective Wikippropriation of her given name disturbing and hilarious. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 04:38, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, another ham? Maybe I'll see you on the bands once I finally get an antenna put up. I got an icom 756pro a few years ago, shortly after I bought my house, and haven't gotten around to putting up the g5rv my father gave me. I think I have too many hobbies. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
Congratulations
now didn't you promise me home cooked dinner at some point on one of our pages? :) I hope all is well with you. Star Mississippi 23:00, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- I sure did. Let me know when you're in New England and I'll whip up some honey glazed garlic rabbit over herbed potatoes, all grown by my wife and me.
- Things are going pretty well. With all my fancy new buttons that I can accidentally press I figured I should reduce my phone editing, so I got a Chromebook. Should come in handy for writing too, as work seems to be getting much busier. I think mostly what I'm going to do with it though is play Baldur's Gate, or install dosbox and play old Wizardry games. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:13, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oooh yum. I had the chance for rabbit recently but ended up with venison and patatas bravas. Not sure I could have gone wrong with either. Forgot that's where you were. I should have waved as I drove from Vermont through MA and CT to NY earlier this summer. Next time. Glad all is well.
- I never got into a tablet, but that plan sounds fun. Still waiting for someone to mod the original Legend of Zelda for iPhone again.
- Give a yell if I can ever play show and tell with the new buttons. Star Mississippi 23:43, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- I think I've done each of the main actions I plan on taking, and haven't accidentally blocked a steward yet, so it seems I'm getting the hang of it. I have reached out quite a few times to other admins, so I'll add you to the support list.
- Hopefully I'll have some venison soon. Almost the season, and my spot has a lot of sign. I checked my camera recently, and there's at least three nice bucks hanging around, as well as a few does, one with a fawn. I spent a couple hours out there yesterday clearing brush and branches, so when I'm out for archery I don't miss because I hit a stray stick. With the amount of rabbit I raise, two deer will let me go a year without having to buy meat. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:51, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
- Support list for anything except images. I'm still lost on those, which fittingly was an oppose or neutral on my RfA.
- I was trail running this weekend and had a couple deer friends. Their habitats are definitely changing. In the area where I was it's not just climate, but also roads being built/moved within their migration paths. I'd much rather them be dinner than road kill. Star Mississippi 02:00, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- The only image work I really do is marking copyvio over on Commons, so hopefully it doesn't come up.
- Along with the habitat changes, there's also the lack of predators. He's are growing to unhealthy levels and there's more disease spreading. Hunting is an important part of conservation. Not that I really help out with the conservation, because I never see any deer in season. This spring I was out for opening day of turkey, in the blind I use for deer as well as turkey, and two deer sauntered by. Didn't see anything in the 50+ hours I had spend out during deer season.
- I think they have calenders. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:22, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
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AIV
159.146.74.26 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) had no edits after the "final warning". I'd responded on AIV, but I know things move fast there. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:05, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- I checked their talk page and saw no responses after the personalized warning, or the other three warnings, and saw that had many more edits they hadn't been warned for, and figured the short block was warranted. I've seen quite a few blocks without the final warning, but if you think I should wait for an edit past the level 4 I'll hold off in the future. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:10, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- In this case, I just didn't see any edits since that final warning (unless I misread the timestamp). I think it's case by case, personally, but I tend to learn toward only reporting on AIV after that final warning or in cases of egregious vandalism. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:27, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- If you ever see an action I take that you think is wrong feel free to revert it. To explain my judgement in this case, I decided to block in this case because of the over 24 hours of disruptive edits and no response to other editors reaching out. I didn't have confidence that another warning would have made a difference in their editing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:31, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds good and reasonable. :) I didn't realize that it'd been that much/long. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:34, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- If you ever see an action I take that you think is wrong feel free to revert it. To explain my judgement in this case, I decided to block in this case because of the over 24 hours of disruptive edits and no response to other editors reaching out. I didn't have confidence that another warning would have made a difference in their editing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:31, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's what I always do. If they have received a warning (of any level) and haven't edited since, I will decline to block them. Useight (talk) 17:03, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- In this case, I just didn't see any edits since that final warning (unless I misread the timestamp). I think it's case by case, personally, but I tend to learn toward only reporting on AIV after that final warning or in cases of egregious vandalism. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:27, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
/64 blocks
It's always worth checking the /64 range for IPv6 vandals, and most times blocking the range by default even if nothing else has happened on that range. I blocked that ANI troll a few days ago, and have re-blocked for two weeks now. I blocked talkpage access too, since they had abused their talkpages after the first block. I wish there was an interface that gave a notice that individual IPs in a range had been part of a rangeblock. Acroterion (talk) 23:55, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) twinkle now has a handy button to check contributions for the /64, so it's trivial to check for collateral damage. Vanamonde (Talk) 23:58, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Does it? Where's that setting hidden cause I can't see it on the Misplaced Pages:Twinkle/Preferences? Or is it in an admin only version of Twinkle? Sideswipe9th (talk) 00:17, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not seeing it either, at least nowhere obvious to me. Acroterion (talk) 00:22, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Straight up, it would be very helpful when filing in a report at AIV or AN3 if we did have a one click button somewhere on the contributions page, so that we could include information as to whether or not someone editing on an IPv6 address has been range blocked recently. Sideswipe9th (talk) 00:25, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- It's in the twinkle block interface.
Convert to /64 rangeblock It's usually fine, if not better, to just block the /64 range (2600:1700:E43:7CE0:0:0:0:0/64).
Clicking the IP /64 gives the contribs. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)- Yes, it's not ideal doing it that way, there are occasions where just the discrete IP needs to be blocked, but it works. You can always uncheck the /64 though. I'll enable the default and see how I like it. Acroterion (talk) 00:36, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Clicking the IP in that section brings you to the range contributions. I think that may be what Vanamonde was talking about. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, it's not ideal doing it that way, there are occasions where just the discrete IP needs to be blocked, but it works. You can always uncheck the /64 though. I'll enable the default and see how I like it. Acroterion (talk) 00:36, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- It's in the twinkle block interface.
- Straight up, it would be very helpful when filing in a report at AIV or AN3 if we did have a one click button somewhere on the contributions page, so that we could include information as to whether or not someone editing on an IPv6 address has been range blocked recently. Sideswipe9th (talk) 00:25, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not seeing it either, at least nowhere obvious to me. Acroterion (talk) 00:22, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Does it? Where's that setting hidden cause I can't see it on the Misplaced Pages:Twinkle/Preferences? Or is it in an admin only version of Twinkle? Sideswipe9th (talk) 00:17, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'm going to have to start checking that. Always feel free to toughen up any blocks I make. I'd rather be a little bit weak to start, until I'm a bit more experience. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Having enabled the block /64 by default, it provides a few more options, though it's still a bit clunky to do a thorough check of the individual ips in a /64 to see if there is collateral damage. I just tried it out on a rapid-fire repeat customer. Acroterion (talk) 00:48, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Vanamonde, I tend to fall into habits with some of the tools. @SFR, most new admins are pretty cautious until they have a good feel for the consensus of how to deal with the problems an admin encounters. That's a virtue. It takes a little while to get a good feel for whether you're doing what other admins would do, something that despite RfA expectations, is not really possible to properly appreciate before you've used the admin tools for a while. I try to gauge my actions against what most other admins are doing and adjust accordingly. Acroterion (talk) 00:12, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
IP
I noticed your response here. Could you take a moment to look at this IPs edits? Huge edits in a short time; most reverted. Promotional in tone, deceptive sourcing, sometimes nonsensical. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:20, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I won't have time to look into this for several hours. The edits certainly aren't great, and I agree with your summary of their general quality. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:05, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
extended confirmed request
can you please look at the extended confirmed request here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Popular_Front_of_India Bijiigil (talk) 00:56, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
User preferences: gender pronoun
I routinely use the gender pronoun templates like {{their}} for Signpost markup. It looks like your user preference may not be set. Or it is exactly what you want, in which case ignore this. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:10, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- I generally try to use gender neutral language in pseudo anonymous spaces, and I also generally don't fill out any gender questions on the Internet. They/them is fine, or masculine pronouns. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:02, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- Bri, there's also a typo in the blurb, newst. I would have fixed it myself, but I assume that only signpost people should touch those pages. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:07, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- In my experience anyone is welcome to make good-faith edits to Signpost drafts, so long as it hasn't yet been approved by the editors in chief (at that point it's generally all hands off). ––FormalDude (talk) 06:48, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Admin's Barnstar | |
You're off to the races! Andre🚐 23:54, 28 September 2022 (UTC) |
A beer for you!
Just a little thank you for clearing up the insane amount of vandalism on Domee Shi, and for protecting the page twice over. And also as an apology for calling you "ScottishFinnishRabbit" instead of "Radish"... Thegreatluigi (talk) 01:29, 1 October 2022 (UTC) |
- No worries, I talk about rabbits fairly often. There's even a picture of some of my rabbits on my userpage. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:33, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Nice going
A very thoughtful interview in the signpost, I felt (Link, for any watchers who haven't seen it). I agree strongly with your point about content curation. I've historically been in the "admins must write content" camp, but only to the extent that admins need to know enough not to screw up curation. Some folks have gone rather beyond that, it would seem. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:43, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
It can be, depending on if people are looking for a way to avoid saying the candidate looks like a horse.
– Sorry, I'm not getting the horse reference. EEng 04:53, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Read the previous answer, EEng :) Vanamonde (Talk) 04:57, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
No worries, I talk about rabbits fairly often. There's even a picture of some of my rabbits on my userpage.
– ??? EEng 14:05, 1 October 2022 (UTC)- My wife and I breed rabbits, as well as other livestock. Just another of the too many hobbies I have. When I'm not farming I'm building furniture or doing artistic woodwork and metalwork. I spend a lot of time outdoors too, hunting and fishing, as well as less violent hobbies like hiking, kayaking, and snow shoeing. I generally have too much going on. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:13, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, but how does that answer explain the horse reference? EEng 19:20, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- The prior question in the interview,
Back when John Kerry was running for president of the US I had a friend who said he couldn't vote for Kerry because "his face looks like a horse." You can't convince someone you don't actually look like a horse, and as long as RFA is about how people feel about you, there's not a whole lot that can be done. To be clear, this is common on the support side as well, supporters just have the benefit of anything without an explanation being read as "per nom."
ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:24, 1 October 2022 (UTC)- I actually figured that out eventually, but it was more fun to keep playing dumb and exasperate you. I find it pays to break in new admins right away. EEng 20:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- The prior question in the interview,
- Yes, but how does that answer explain the horse reference? EEng 19:20, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- My wife and I breed rabbits, as well as other livestock. Just another of the too many hobbies I have. When I'm not farming I'm building furniture or doing artistic woodwork and metalwork. I spend a lot of time outdoors too, hunting and fishing, as well as less violent hobbies like hiking, kayaking, and snow shoeing. I generally have too much going on. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:13, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- As Vanamonde says, it's related to the prior question. I always liked that anecdote, because it shows that past most of the rationalizations people state when voting, it mostly comes down to a general impression or if they think the candidate looks like a horse. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:21, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
A good read, thank to all involved! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:22, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:21, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- I wondered how many would still oppose after having read the interview. - The tree pictured is one of my favourites. My No. 1 collapsed in a storm years ago, and I still miss it when passing by on the road. - see also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- That's one of the reasons I think that RFA might work better as a one week q&a, followed by a secret vote.
- My favorite tree is an enormous oak in the middle of the woods near where I hunt. It's easily fifty feet taller than the surrounding canopy, four or five feet in diameter, old and craggy. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:21, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Sound great! Mine was an apple tree. - Believe it ot not, today's church booklet for October had a front pic of mostly radishes :) - German Erntedank, harvest thanks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- I had a few excellent radish harvests this year. I sent El C a picture of me holding a daikon as large as my arm. My rabbits also appreciated all the radish greens. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:58, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Sound great! Mine was an apple tree. - Believe it ot not, today's church booklet for October had a front pic of mostly radishes :) - German Erntedank, harvest thanks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- I wondered how many would still oppose after having read the interview. - The tree pictured is one of my favourites. My No. 1 collapsed in a storm years ago, and I still miss it when passing by on the road. - see also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Congratulations SFR! I wish I had kept an eye on the RfAs, but hey, you always had, have you won't,]]] my support :) — DaxServer (t · m · c) 17:15, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Adminship
Congrats with your adminship Lotje (talk) 11:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Yes, indeed! Congratulations! I didn't even know you were nominated. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 21:46, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
About your adminship
Congratulations on becoming an admin! Magnatyrannus (talk | contribs) 21:47, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
Creative way to get votes: fake your own death
- See also: Very important news!
Stupid news! So, a funeral was held for the leader of the Cuban Federales and mayoral candidate, Osvaldo Pingafria. But he wasn't actually dead, rather, it was a 500 IQ election stunt, which is sure to bring in the votes (somehow). However, someone forgot to inform James Randel, who responded, uh, somewhat heatedly El_C 14:31, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks to these links and my wife watching YouTube on the Roku, which is linked to my account, I have very weird suggestions. GTA roleplay and Cambodian cooking. At least the ads are still targeted, somewhat. The ad for TikTok was wasted on me, but the second ad for a sale at tractor supply was reasonable. Unfortunately for them I'm fixed for feed, forage, and fencing right now.
- I finished that last series of books, solidly a C- effort by the author. Trope after trope, completely predictable, every good guy killed the bad guy they were set up against in the first book. The whole thing read like a 12 years old's d&d story after their parents let them watch game of thrones. I also refuse to believe that the main character's love interest has breath that "smells faintly of apples" after a month of forced marching and combat while eating hard tack and hunted meat.
- I just started some apocalyptic zombie series which is also pretty bad so far, but it's a box set so I get 54 hours of listening for the cost of one book. It's another series not notable enough for an article by another author not notable enough for an author. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:05, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, what apple series is this? Yeah, I've had YouTube Premium for like a year now and haven't looked back. But I'm unlikely to get the Twitch equivalent (Turbo or whatever the fuck it's called). I'm now half way through book 2 of the Green Rider series, First Rider's Call, and I'm still liking it a lot. It's taking me a while, but that's more due to being busy than lack of interest.
- BTW, in the acknowledgments, Kristen Britain thanked not Terry Goodkind who gave the first book such a glowing review (as mentioned, a major river in the world is called Terrygood), but rather, John Marco, the author of the last series of books I read. Small book world! I also found out that she used to be a Park Ranger, so that explains the magical green riders
- BTW BTW, while I appreciate DAW Books not being a conglomerate (though "In July 2022, DAW was acquired by Astra Publishing," its article says), holy smokes are their prints just for shit. Faded ink, un-bleached recycled paper, just the fuckin' worst. Oh well. El_C 15:33, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- The last series was The Faithful and the Fallen by John Gwynne, and the one I just started is Slow Burn by Bobby Adair. Sometimes I try books that I assume won't be good because it brings me back to my days as a kid buying and reading whatever was available at the flea market. The worst part about that was getting books from a series and never getting to read the other books.
- I never bothered with YouTube premium because I normally watch YouTube on a PC with an ad blocker. All the streaming my wife and I use are ad-free though. We pay extra for Hulu and all that, I have too many hobbies to spend time watching ads. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:00, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- I only use PC, as well. Yeah, I did the ad-block thing on and off for many years (I think I created my YouTube account in 2009), but it was always a bit wonky and a pain to maintain, especially with certain extensions. YouTube Premium also has music options for YouTube's vast music library. And it isn't that expensive, so I've been pretty happy with what I get. El_C 16:09, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
About User:Kidtommee
Hello, I am Tommy 's dad, I'm really sorry he had some disruptive interactions today. I'm trying to explain to him what he did wrong, he doesn't understand about verifiable sources (he's 9) and I wasn't aware he was trying to edit some articles (to be honest that makes me kind of proud). I know the (obvious) reasons behind his user being blocked, but I would like to take the time to explain how Misplaced Pages works (I didn't know he was interested). Please allow him to keep his Username, and he'll eventually return prepared to collaborate. Another observation, after all this years (I joined Misplaced Pages 15 years ago I think, and collaborated mostly in Misplaced Pages en Español) you would believe that blocking IP's is kind of an obsolete idea, just because you blocked him I wasn't able to use my ISP's IP to communicate with you, then I tried to use Surfshark VPN and that IP was also blocked (useless pattern I think). Thank you and have a good night. (Rolf Obermaier (talk) 00:57, 3 October 2022 (UTC))
- (by talk reader) This is weird. I've seen my share of WP:LITTLEBROTHER but this is the first time on this website I've seen someone advocate on behalf of a child. Compromised account? Good hand bad hand? This could be real; not inconceivable. This is just weird. Were I an admin, I'd stick to what I know and that is the fact that Kidtommee isn't ready to be editing here. This sort of situation would not be resolved through SPI, so any unblock I might make would have to come with strings attached to the so-claimed parent. Kid misbehaves again? Both accounts are blocked. That's just me talking, though. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:05, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- That's about my thought process on the whole thing, too. They can still request an unblock through UTRS at some point, and as I placed the indef, I'll leave that up to another admin to decide. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:20, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, it is not a "compromised account", he's just a kid and he loves Bob The Builder and HIT Entertainment and all that, and he thought he could edit on this article based on some wrong knowledge. He simply doesn't know the rules and I wasn't aware he was trying to edit an article, he is not ready to contribute, but that is exactly my point because, one day, he will be, and "Misplaced Pages is a wiki, meaning anyone can edit nearly any page and improve articles immediately". I am not asking an unblock, but kids tend to see things in absolute terms, I don't want him to feel discouraged to ever come back and edit, because that would be a shame. I am asking for some leniency because all he sees is an absolute (indefinite block), I don't want him to desist in something as good as this project, his time will come and he'll be prepared. The way I see it, this generation is getting too much of wrong information and dumb ideas through social media or fox news, and my kid is reading from Misplaced Pages, this is not a formal request, this is just a father that is proud that his 9 year old son wants to be part of something worthy. Greetings. Rolf Obermaier (talk) 17:02, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- When he is ready to edit the WP:UTRS system can be used to request an unblock. Indefinite is not infinite, and the block can be lifted if reviewers are convinced the disruption will end. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:05, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- A quick perusal of his contributions does look like the good-faith edits of a kid trying to help, at least to me. I look forward to him contributing when he's a bit older. Useight (talk) 18:25, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- When he is ready to edit the WP:UTRS system can be used to request an unblock. Indefinite is not infinite, and the block can be lifted if reviewers are convinced the disruption will end. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:05, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Cyber Anakin
Um... if you look at Talk:Cyber Anakin, there is a content dispute going on, and the appropriate protection would have been full protection in my opinion, not semi-protection to lock out one editor who happens to use an anonymous IP address. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:15, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- I looked at it as a single good faith editor edit warring against three other users, which showed a reasonable consensus against the edits. Rather than block the good faith user I wanted to allow the discussion to continue, stop the edit warring against consensus, and avoid blocking a good faith user. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:16, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Your block of 7ft George
I think VOA would have been a better choice.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:11, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I don't disagree. Does the VOA selection default to indef? I've used it before, so I should know, but I don't recall. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:15, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- If you're blocking with Twinkle, yes.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:18, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Bbb23, think NOTHERE applies to 157.130.12.106? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- I never think of NOTHERE applying to an IP, but you can block them for vandalism if you wish, although not indefinitely. BTW, the impersonating account you indeffed is a sock. He impersonated Cryptic, too, and did the same edit to a blocked user's page, telling them to create another account. Cute, huh?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:20, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Probably not worth the block on the IP, already stopped editing. People sure come up with silly ways to waste their time, and other's. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:27, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- I never think of NOTHERE applying to an IP, but you can block them for vandalism if you wish, although not indefinitely. BTW, the impersonating account you indeffed is a sock. He impersonated Cryptic, too, and did the same edit to a blocked user's page, telling them to create another account. Cute, huh?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:20, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Bbb23, think NOTHERE applies to 157.130.12.106? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- If you're blocking with Twinkle, yes.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:18, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
72.29.39.190 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
First off, congrats on the mop. I saw your 72 hour block of the user after they hit my test filter, so just letting you know I expanded the block to a year-long rangeblock of 72.29.39.0/24 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)) since it's been the same disruptive user for years. DatGuyContribs 15:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- The number of long term disruptive editors in the television topic area is crazy. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:10, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Disable TPA
Hey could you disable the TPA of the IP range you just blocked? ― Blaze WolfBlaze Wolf#6545 16:29, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- All set. Thanks for the reverts. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:32, 4 October 2022 (UTC)