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Thanks
Hi Paul - hope you are well and all the best for 2022. Thanks for the kind words on my talkpage. Yes, things are changing on WP, and not for the good of the project. Your work on here has certainly been worthwhile and does not go un-noticed. Lugnuts 18:35, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. Just updated Edward Shaske's bio with the new info with the new DOD. I assume his previous 1982 year of death was his father? Lugnuts 20:06, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- Judging by the obituaries, it looks like it was his son who died in 1982, at a fairly young age. Canadian Paul 02:27, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
@Lugnuts: (or anyone else that is interested) I know you said earlier that you might be interested in taking a crack at the list of Misplaced Pages updates I have for Olympians. Since I'm losing motivation somewhat to do them, I transferred the entire list here. Feel free to edit/remove names as you like or, alternatively, to ignore completely. If you happen upon any with no difference from Wiki/Olympedia, let me know; I've definitely caught updates that have not been done and I can correct that. Canadian Paul 02:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Paul - thanks for this. Yes, happy to help, but with you, lost a bit of motivation of late! Take care. Lugnuts 09:04, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Jan Żurawski
Hi, Paul. Happy New Year! Jan Żurawski is alive, I hope. He was well-known wrestling activist, and is honorary president of the Warsaw-Mazovian Wrestling Organiztation http://www.zapasy.waw.pl/w-mozz/wladze-wmozz.html. An article from 2017 is here https://www.muzeumsportu.waw.pl/wystawy/archiwum/2017/553-wyklad-zapasy-wczoraj-dzis-i-jutro, activity from 2016 (with photo) https://legionisci.com/news/67426_Gala_obchodow_90-lecia_sekcji_zapasniczej.html. Pbk (talk) 15:03, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Happy new year! Thanks for the update! Canadian Paul 04:14, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Klara Post
Hi CP, Klara Post died 12 January 2022, aged 95 in Alkmaar according to an unsourced (and now reverted) edit here. Thanks --Jkaharper (talk) 23:16, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- We're looking into it with some members of the team... hopefully we'll find something soon to confirm or refute! Canadian Paul 02:28, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Seventeen Years of Editing!
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17 years of editing!
Have a very happy first edit anniversary!
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Happy First Edit Day!
Have a very happy first edit anniversary!
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Ooh, there's a lot of them this year. Thanks everyone! Canadian Paul 03:19, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
Ilídio Silva
Hi. It looks, Ilídio Silva died according to this page http://www.caminha2000.com/jornal/n897/ultimasnoticias.html--Pbk (talk) 11:25, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- Seems to be the case, good find! Canadian Paul 22:23, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Mirza Khan
It appears Mirza Khan may have died on 25 Jan 2022 according to edits I've now reverted. Thanks --Jkaharper (talk) 13:57, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
- Ignore me. I see he has an obituary now. --Jkaharper (talk) 23:38, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
Raymond Argentin
Hi CP, you may wish to chip in here. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Raymond Argentin. I personally believe the page should stay, and I've expanded the article beyond its original single sentence. --Jkaharper (talk) 14:25, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Two people's DOBs
Hi Paul. I was wondering if you have any DOB info for Mark Nickens and/or Len Hatzenbeller? SportsGuy789 (talk) 16:35, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- I'll look into it soon and let you know! Canadian Paul 06:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- @SportsGuy789: Hatzenbeller is Leonard Phillip Hatzenbeller Jr., born October 1, 1959, according to public records. Unfortunately, I could not find a reliable source for that. I believe that Mark Nickens is Mark G. Nickens, born April 8, 1959, although I cannot prove it. Sorry that isn't much, but I hope that it is a little helpful! Canadian Paul 03:00, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you Paul! SportsGuy789 (talk) 17:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Oldest living Olympians lists
Hi Paul, Do you have an off-Wiki equivalent for your Oldest Living/Possibly Living Olympians lists? Cheers, DerbyCountyinNZ 21:51, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- The off-Wiki equivalent for Oldest Living can be found here. There's no off-wiki for the possibly though (at least, not online). Canadian Paul 06:52, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
Olympedia
Hi Canadian Paul,
Do you have any connection or involvement with Olympedia? I've noticed that Olympedia has been updating the profiles of athletes with their full names in the middle of AFD's, and immediately after you've updated the name at the article, assumedly sourced to Olympedia as no new source is added. BilledMammal (talk) 08:21, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Caught! You better come clean 😎 Schwede66 09:14, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- You'll never take me alive copper! Canadian Paul 17:22, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- BLAAMMM!! Hehe. I'm not sure if your French is up to much, but if it is, you may be able to help with this AfD. Keeping this all nice and neutal and above board. Lugnuts 18:58, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Assuming you are involved, I would ask that in the future when your work on the site is relevant to your edits and !votes at AFD, I would ask that you disclose that - the way your comments are written, and your edit summaries, suggests that you are not WP:SELFCITING, and instead are adding information that others inexplicably missed, which is misleading. BilledMammal (talk) 02:58, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- To clarify, in this case, Jones and Lawrey were just coincidentally updated on the project during the debate (not by me). Canadian Paul 03:01, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Otto Thiel
Hi Paul - hope you are well. Just noticed that Otto Thiel is showing as a WWI death on Olympedia, but his updated bio has a death date of 10 July 1913. Thanks. Lugnuts 18:21, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- And the German article has a reference for that death date. Schwede66 08:36, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- 1913 is definitely correct per a contemporary news report. Looks like the WWI mention on Olympedia has been removed (unless I am missing it?). Canadian Paul 19:27, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
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Devin Boyd DOB
Hey CP! Was wondering if you have a definitive source for Devin Boyd's DOB? I've seen September 1970 and October 1970, so I'm guessing it's somewhere in there, but haven't been able to find the smoking gun. SportsGuy789 (talk) 16:28, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'll take a look into this shortly! Canadian Paul 02:11, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Public records have him born September 13, 1970. There is a Devin Deron Boyd born October 7, 1970, so that may be where the confusion comes from. Canadian Paul 05:59, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Got it! I found a news article that had his middle name (Lemuel) which helped immensely clear this up. I'll add 9/13/70, thanks! SportsGuy789 (talk) 16:10, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Public records have him born September 13, 1970. There is a Devin Deron Boyd born October 7, 1970, so that may be where the confusion comes from. Canadian Paul 05:59, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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AfD
Hi Paul. Hope you are well. As a previous editor to the article, you might or might not be able to help with this AfD. Thanks. Lugnuts 08:52, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Thomas Arnold
Hello, regarding this page, I see that Olympedia changed the page title in "Terence Arnold" without changing the name inside the biography section. Meanwhile I've found this reference that seems to confirm the name Terence. Do you have any other reference that can help to solve the doubt? Thank you very much. GBG (talk) 08:58, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- @GBG: Thanks for pointing this out - the bio has been corrected; the bobsledder's name is definitely Terence. The PDF you found is confirmed by contemporary newspaper and military records, as well as probate records. Canadian Paul 02:07, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
OlympStats
Hello, regarding your feedback on my comment on OlympStats: I'm afraid I'm not able to find any mail address on that web page. There is no link behind "CONTACT US" either. So I'm not sure how I can send a mail with the evidence you had requested. Regards --RonaldH (talk) 20:45, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Same person or two different people
Hi Paul - hope you are well. Please could you take a look at this AfD regarding if the gymnast and zoologist are one and the same. Thanks. Lugnuts 10:25, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
ITN recognition for George Elder (baseball)
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Current Events
Dear Canadian Paul, I know it may not be your area, but I was wondering if you could add your point of view to a little editing/content problem over at Current events. I've started a discussion here. If you have time and think it's important, please take a look and add your thoughts. Regards, MattSucci (talk) 06:20, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- @MattSucci: I don't know how I missed this message; sorry about that! I will try harder to help if I can in the future! Canadian Paul 02:55, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
No problem at all, dude. The problem kind of solved itself :) MattSucci (talk) 02:58, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Collaboration?
Hi there Paul, our interests overlap with Olympians (you) and rowers (me). I once started a stub for Lucien Brouha and some time later, I discovered that he then had a significant scientific career linked to his chosen sport. I've created a semi-decent bio based on scarce sources and drew a bit out of science papers. One of my stumbling blocks was that his native language was French and that's not a language that I have mastered (they've tried to teach me but they failed!) and therefore, I can't do any searches for sources in that language either. I wonder whether you'd be interested in teaming up. Whilst French doesn't show up as one of 'your' languages, you have a wide network around the world. And as a Canadian, I presume that half your mates speak French. If that sounds like a good idea, please say so. Absolutely no urgency; I did all my work a year ago. It doesn't need much more to pass GA but I've exhausted what I could find. Schwede66 05:54, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- A quick skim makes me think this article would probably pass GA as it is! But yes, I'm happy to help - French was my other dissertation language, so while I can't speak it all, I can read it enough at least to pass an exam, haha. It's a long weekend over here, but afterwards I can probably put some time into it, so let me know what you think is missing and I can try to help. Canadian Paul 02:53, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- I would have liked to write more about early life (e.g. which high school he attended). The biggest gap, though, is from 1944 onwards. I couldn't figure out which company he went to; the whole later life is a bit hazy (apart him working for DuPont at some point). I would expect that there would have been some obituaries but the one that I did get my hands on (ref #18) was rather brief (and some kind person translated it for me). The guy's work is really impressive – the work that made him famous was done 80 years ago and it's still sometimes used today. And the symposium that carries his name has been going since 1961. That is quite something. Schwede66 03:36, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Got it. I'll take a look when I can and let you know if I find anything! Canadian Paul 02:42, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: Well, I didn't find much in French, but I think I did answer your main question. In 1945 he was working for the Aluminum Company of Canada, so that's where he went after 1944. He was still working there in 1950, but was at DuPont by 1951, so that should fill the gaps in his employment. He also headed the Fitness Research Unit at the University of Montreal at some point. Hopefully that helps. Canadian Paul 01:14, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks heaps. I've finally worked your finds into the bio. Much appreciated indeed. Schwede66 04:57, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: Well, I didn't find much in French, but I think I did answer your main question. In 1945 he was working for the Aluminum Company of Canada, so that's where he went after 1944. He was still working there in 1950, but was at DuPont by 1951, so that should fill the gaps in his employment. He also headed the Fitness Research Unit at the University of Montreal at some point. Hopefully that helps. Canadian Paul 01:14, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Got it. I'll take a look when I can and let you know if I find anything! Canadian Paul 02:42, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
- I would have liked to write more about early life (e.g. which high school he attended). The biggest gap, though, is from 1944 onwards. I couldn't figure out which company he went to; the whole later life is a bit hazy (apart him working for DuPont at some point). I would expect that there would have been some obituaries but the one that I did get my hands on (ref #18) was rather brief (and some kind person translated it for me). The guy's work is really impressive – the work that made him famous was done 80 years ago and it's still sometimes used today. And the symposium that carries his name has been going since 1961. That is quite something. Schwede66 03:36, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
Hello Paul, hope all's well for you. I've nominated this article for GA review and Johannes Schade is in the process of reviewing it. I've had a look whether we have any photos online and I see that there's something attached to his olympedia entry. Would you be able to find out where the photo comes from? There's a high chance that it's out of copyright, but we'll probably have an easier time on Commons with a bit more background. Schwede66 02:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, been a busy few days. I'll take a look at this and your other message and get back to you soon. Canadian Paul 04:40, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- Update. Earlier today, we managed to track down a high-resolution photo of Brouha and Jules George. And it's in focus. That's heaps better than what's attached to the Olympedia entry and I'm sure that you'd want to change the photo when you see it. Schwede66 05:41, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: Just sent the new photos to Olympedia; thanks! Regarding your ping about George, Olympedia has it correct, right? Or am I missing something? Canadian Paul 20:51, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- Olympedia has it correct. Indeed. I thought it used to say "Georges" but maybe I'm wrong. Schwede66 21:02, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Schwede66: Just sent the new photos to Olympedia; thanks! Regarding your ping about George, Olympedia has it correct, right? Or am I missing something? Canadian Paul 20:51, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- Update. Earlier today, we managed to track down a high-resolution photo of Brouha and Jules George. And it's in focus. That's heaps better than what's attached to the Olympedia entry and I'm sure that you'd want to change the photo when you see it. Schwede66 05:41, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, been a busy few days. I'll take a look at this and your other message and get back to you soon. Canadian Paul 04:40, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Lex Franken
Hello Paul, I think I’ve found a date of Death: 6 November 1990. Cattivi (talk) 23:05, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
- Looks promising! I'll pass it on to our Dutch contact and see if I can confirm with a RS. Canadian Paul 03:33, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Subsequent stating of birth name
Hey Paul, I'm referencing this edit. I think the reference to WP:NAMES is incorrect in this case, so I've reverted. It's very common for articles to restate the birth name at the start of the article (i.e., after the lead). I think most people find it improper to add a citation to the lead, so restating the birth name (after the lead) and/or citing the birth name in the "Early life" (or first section) can be a good approach. Some chief examples: Theodore Roosevelt and Martin Luther. MOS:SURNAME references using the surname after the full name is originally stated, but there doesn't appear to be a guideline in WP:NAMES that supports not being able to restate the birth name when citing the birth. Happy to discuss though, if you see something different. Cheers, --Engineerchange (talk) 04:00, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hmmm... I haven't seen it much that way in the past, but your examples are solid and it's not a big concern overall, so I have no problems. Thanks for the message! Canadian Paul 04:02, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Canadian Paul: No problem! Misplaced Pages is always about learning something new and I thought I was doing something wrong for a sec there. Cheers, --Engineerchange (talk) 04:08, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
Reggie Smith (Northeastern Illinois basketball) DOB
Hey Paul! I was wondering if you might be able to help me out with tracking down Reggie Smith's date of birth? SportsGuy789 (talk) 15:32, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- Sure. I'll give it a try when I have a little more time. Canadian Paul 03:35, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
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Shunpei Uto still alive!?
Hi Paul, information added to the Japan Wiki for Uto a few months ago suggest that he was still alive in 2019, although the sources don't pass WP:RS. Given the Japanese esteem for the elderly I would have thought an Olympic medalist reaching 100 would have caught the attention of their mainstream media. Cheers, DerbyCountyinNZ 00:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- @DerbyCountyinNZ: Oops, sorry, missed this somehow the first time. Three years ago I was in contact with a Japanese journalist who was looking to get in touch with Uto and offered to pass along any updates. Eventually they spoke to Uto's son and were told that he died a "few years ago" (as of 2019). My communication with this journalist was in English, so it seemed pretty conclusive to me that Uto had died. Of course, this is the exact opposite of the story that was added to the Japanese Misplaced Pages (at least as far as I can tell with Google Translate). So this is very odd indeed. Canadian Paul 04:18, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Karl Jordan at Olympedia
Are you able to identify the underlying sources for this entry? There are some questions about the reliability of the assessment that the zoologist and the gymnast was the same person. BilledMammal (talk) 16:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- @BilledMammal: What sources are those questions based on? I'd be happy to have some German-speaking experts take a look at it. Canadian Paul 03:54, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you; primarily on this and this, which don't mention any participation in the Olympics despite covering less significant details of his life. I'm wondering if there is a source that connects the two together, or if Olympedia made the connection itself. BilledMammal (talk) 04:06, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- @BilledMammal: Got it. I sent some emails out and will let you know if I hear anything one way or another. Canadian Paul 04:07, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. BilledMammal (talk) 04:10, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- There’s not a hint of gymnastics in those articles. Given that he worked as a teacher for some years and his subjects are listed, that’s surprising. Especially since gymnastics was a big thing in Germany. If I knew where to find contemporary German newspapers, I’d happily take a look how Jordan was described in 1912. Schwede66 07:21, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. BilledMammal (talk) 04:10, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- @BilledMammal: Got it. I sent some emails out and will let you know if I hear anything one way or another. Canadian Paul 04:07, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you; primarily on this and this, which don't mention any participation in the Olympics despite covering less significant details of his life. I'm wondering if there is a source that connects the two together, or if Olympedia made the connection itself. BilledMammal (talk) 04:06, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Right, I've had a look for contemporary newspapers and have documented how the German gymnastics team came about. The team was provided by Leipzig University. Jordan did study at "Jena and Leipzig", so it's well within the realm of possibility that our scientist was one of the 20 students who travelled to Stockholm. Schwede66 08:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- And this source lists Jordan as being from Pfeffdorf (spelled "Pfaffdorf" in another source). I've had a look but cannot find a locality of that name. Schwede66 09:11, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Gotcha. I see he was born in "Papstdorf". "Dorf" means village and "Pfaffe" is an old German name for a catholic priest or a pope (German: Papst). Pfaffdorf would thus be an old name for Papstdorf. My pleasure. Schwede66 09:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you; same name and born in the same small village strongly supports them being the same person. BilledMammal (talk) 21:38, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- The response I got from my emails was that the Karl Jordan who was in the Olympics and the Karl Jordan who was the zoologist have the same birthday, according to the entry lists for the Games. Canadian Paul 05:52, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you; same name and born in the same small village strongly supports them being the same person. BilledMammal (talk) 21:38, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- Gotcha. I see he was born in "Papstdorf". "Dorf" means village and "Pfaffe" is an old German name for a catholic priest or a pope (German: Papst). Pfaffdorf would thus be an old name for Papstdorf. My pleasure. Schwede66 09:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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- Thanks! What a nice reminder. Canadian Paul 05:53, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
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