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Redwood National and State Parks

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The issues about this article were raised one or two years ago, including sourcing and outdated info (or insufficient updates or coverage). Edits have been made since, but I think more work is still needed. George Ho (talk) 13:48, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

• See note at Misplaced Pages talk:Featured article review/Yellowstone National Park/archive2. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:44, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
• Move to FARC no edits except the addition of an unsourced paragraph. (t · c) buidhe 05:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

  Let's give MONGO some more time before trying to push this one through. Hog Farm _Talk 05:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

  MONGO seems pretty frustrated with this process in their last edit, from December 21. Is anyone friendly with them that could try a user talk page post or email? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 06:02, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

  I believe Sandy emailed them a few days ago about placing either this one or Yellowstone on hold, so that there'd only be one FAR up at a time, allowing for lower-pressure work on these. Hog Farm _Talk 06:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

  No response to my email (which was not through Misplaced Pages). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 10:13, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

• Move to FARC. No progress on addressing uncited sections. Z1720 (talk) 20:58, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
• Move to FARC per above. George Ho (talk) 21:00, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

There has not been even a vague attempt to list here what work remains to be done on this article. (I haven't had time to check.) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:30, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Just so they're all in one place:

• Issues mentioned at talk:
  • smatterings of uncited text throughout
  • detailed information is from 2008, and needs a check to make sure it's still in date. For instance, the camping rights details quite possibly could have changed since 2008, etc.
  • several marginal sources have been introduced since the last notice
• Issues mentioned here:
  • addition of an unsourced paragraph
• My issues:
  • §History has some clunkiness, unhelpful time jumps, probably could be better illustrated
  • Many tangential details, info about parks that are not in RNSP
  • Some quoted material is not sufficiently attributed in text
  • §Park management is tagged with "needs expansion"
  • In §Flora, the tree Hyperion is described as "tallest tree in the park" as of September 2006. It's not clear that the date refers to its discovery as the tallest tree, and the description should probably be something like "considered the world's tallest known living tree". The mention in the next paragraph of Stratosphere Giant, which is not in RNSP, is emblematic of the "tangential details" issue
  • Need consistency in use of "park" vs. "parks" and use of "RNSP" as either a singular or plural acronym
  • Unclear relevance: "The evergreen hardwood tanoak produces a nut similar to the acorns produced by the related genus Quercus (oak). Both tanoaks and oaks are members of the beech family"
• I stopped documenting problems there, but there are more. I'd love to help keep the star on this one. I expect to be able to handle the items mentioned so far, and I hope to be up to resolving the unexpected issues. I don't have a strong feeling about whether this happens at FAR or FARC, but I do think it will be a couple weeks before I can really be in the zone on it. A resolution to WP:FAR#Heian Palace is (hopefully) coming soonish, and I can poke away it this before that frees me up to do more. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 23:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

• Move to FARC...and go ahead and delist. I acknowledge this article needs updating, but the last time I worked my tail off updating an article it still wasn't enough to satisfy the reviewers. I think its better to let the articles get delisted then someone can later on see if they want to work to get the articles back into shape...but for me, I see it as a losing battle. I have been absent for 3 months mainly due to the exasperation of dealing with that last FARC situation.--MONGO (talk) 01:22, 24 February 2023 (UTC)