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    Paid editing spreading across wikis

    Hello, Jimbo! As a defender of Misplaced Pages from spammers, specially those in violation of Terms of Use, I suggest a more careful look for edits outside of English Misplaced Pages. I am starting to notice many spammers that are blocked here on en.wiki, but left unblocked everywhere else and keeping up with the highly suspicious edits.

    For instance BIB6310, that is blocked here for being a sock, but went across many other large projects doing the same, most recently on Portuguese Misplaced Pages. If an editor violates Terms of Use, I believe they should be prevented from doing it everywhere. I will probably lock all socks of Anne Barrington, but I believe we should start thinking on some sort of automatic process for such cases, like requesting immediately lock for accounts in violation of ToU. Do you think we should enforce that?

    Kind regards. —Teles «Talk to me˱M @ C S˲» 19:32, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

    While there are some obvious challenges, I actually suspect this is a very clever avenue to pursue change. The first issue that springs to mind is that someone might be very well behaved on one language wiki, but go to another language and behave badly and get blocked, and that's very different from the kind of cross-language abuse accounts that you are talking about. Distinguishing between those would be important.
    In terms of forecasting the near future, I would anticipate that the right rise of large language models with very good multi-lingual capabilities will probably give rise to new forms of cross-language abuse. Why spam in only one language, if you can spam in 200 for no additional cost? Gross, but that's going to be a thing.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 09:53, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
    This would seemingly be putting a lot of additional work onto stewards and I think cases like this are the exception rather than the rule. I know that for some sockrings who are known for crosswiki abuse we already globally lock them too. It would be interesting to be able to view all the edits to other wikis by users who are blocked on one wiki though. SmartSE (talk) 10:19, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
    Did you mean "the rise of large language models"? Or have they formed political factions already? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:27, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
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