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August 2023

Johnsmith2116 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I was called by a concerned editor in Misplaced Pages about this block and they recommended that the block should be taken away for two reasons.

First, I did not even know about any such violation, if I had known, I would not have made the edit in question. I should not be penalized with a block for a violation I did not know.

And second, the topic in question concerns something that has to do with loading a grid for leaderboards, leaderboards which will end up being loaded in a matter of days anyway when they will be loaded with the leaders, and this was not an issue at all in previous versions of the page including last year; take a look at this example from last year. You will see that no one attempted to remove the leaderboard grid even though it was put there several days in advance. ... https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=2022_FedEx_Cup_Playoffs&diff=prev&oldid=1104124428 ... You see that no one had a problem with it. And why would they? It was going to be used in a short time, so it was natural for it to be there.

So, there are two things happening simultaneously; the disallowance of a grid for a leaderboard which will be there within a few days anyway (which was always accepted up to now), and penalizing me for putting that grid there as a violation which I did not even know about anyway. I would not have done that grid KNOWING it was a violation. And the fact that suddenly a grid is not supposed to be there, is not rooted in logic anyway, because, in a few days' time, when the leaders need to be put into the article, they cannot be put into there unless there is a grid there to put them into in the first place. For these things I am requesting to be unblocked. I had not even known about the block until someone had brought it to my attention, and it took my be surprise because of my not having any idea of a possible violation; the pink box at the top of this page says "seemingly deliberate violation" but that is not accurate at all. I would not deliberately violate. And the fact that loading in a needed leaderboard is somehow a violation in the first place boggles the mind. If it is, suddenly, that important to the community to not have that grid in there a few days in advance, then I will not put it in there in advance, but I do not think I should be blocked for this because of my not knowing about it suddenly being a violation; the Fed Ex Cup pages traditionally had the grids loaded long in advance. Also, we editors have had our differences over time, but this situation took me by surprise and I had no idea about this. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 04:28, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Last year you didn't have a topic ban. You were informed of the topic ban by Girth Summit on July 29th. You removed the notice yesterday and seemed to be aware of its contents based on your comment "Me 1, them 0". Based on these facts I find it virtually impossible to believe that you "had no idea" about the topic ban. If you truly didn't think that your FedEx Cup edit was a violation, then I would have to question your competence to edit. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 08:46, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

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331dot, thanks for reviewing this, but when I removed much of the things on my page yesterday, I did not know that was there. I was removing mostly everything and leaving only a little. I did not know about a notice. I rarely go to this page and I did not see a / the notice. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 09:02, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

FYI I've placed this outside the block notice, the Reply function is not designed to accomodate unblock requests well. I find that difficult to believe, you wrote "This is not allowed, no one can remove a same day leaderboard. Hours after this removal, it had to be put back in to be available for the leaders. Inexcusable." In any event, removal of content from a user talk page is considered an acknowledgment that it was read- if you didn't know, you should have. You can make another unblock request for someone else to review, any decision will be up to them. 331dot (talk) 09:07, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

331dot, the "This is not allowed, no one can remove a same day leaderboard. Hours after this removal, it had to be put back in to be available for the leaders. Inexcusable." is the portion you were peaking of? Then that is even more reason; I had that portion there months ago. Take a look in this link, that was from April: .. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk%3AJohnsmith2116&diff=1147607732&oldid=1147457491 .. Now you see, correct? As I said, I did not see a / the notice, I was simply going through and getting rid of a lot of stuff on here yesterday. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 09:15, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Okay, I was going by the "replaced content with" in the edit summary, I see it was there the edit before. Nevertheless, as I said, removal of content is considered an acknowledgement that it was read. If you failed to read it, that's your error. 331dot (talk) 09:19, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Two points come to mind. Firstly, you haven't explained the "Me 1, them 0" comment. Secondly, it was you who initiated the ANI discussion, now at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1135#User:Wjemather, which ended with the topic ban. You posted to ANI at 13:25, 23 July 2023 (UTC). The first suggestion of a topic ban was at 19:26, 23 July 2023 (UTC) although the discussion wasn't closed until 29 July. Given that it was you who initiated the discussion, it seems strange to me that you wouldn't look at the discussion after posting it and be aware that a topic ban was a distinct possibility. Nigej (talk) 17:19, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

WikiCup 2023 September newsletter

The fourth round of the competition has finished, with anyone scoring less than 673 points being eliminated. It was a high scoring round with all but one of the contestants who progressed to the final having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were

• Epicgenius, with 2173 points topping the scores, gained mainly from a featured article, 38 good articles and 9 DYKs. He was followed by
• Sammi Brie, with 1575 points, gained mainly from a featured article, 28 good articles and 50 good article reviews. Close behind was
• Thebiguglyalien, with 1535 points mainly gained from a featured article, 15 good articles, 26 good article reviews and lots of bonus points.

Between them during round 4, contestants achieved 12 featured articles, 3 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 126 good articles, 46 DYK entries, 14 ITN entries, 67 featured article candidate reviews and 147 good article reviews. Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them and within 24 hours of the end of the final. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.

I will be standing down as a judge after the end of the contest. I think the Cup encourages productive editors to improve their contributions to Misplaced Pages and I hope that someone else will step up to take over the running of the Cup. Sturmvogel 66 (talk), and Cwmhiraeth (talk)