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Text wrap around images

I'm sure not many people visit Signpost on mobile, but I've realised that the text wrap around images on Signpost articles isn't working well. I came to Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2023-07-17/Obituary from a Depths of Wiki tweet, and the leading words of the obituary are unreadable due to being broken into fragments across many lines as it is pushed to the left of the image that already takes up much of the space. It is reproducible with other Signpost articles too. —CX Zoom 23:01, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Mobile is fucked, desktop is fucked, and I don't think anyone understands how the stylesheets work. The good news is that I might, soon, and then I will do my best to fix it. jp×g 04:25, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

@CX Zoom: IDK what browser you're using but, if you increase the size of your viewport within Firefox (by toggling 'Desktop site'‡ button under the hamburger menu) it reflows the page and things usually look fine… even on the dumpster fire mobile web version. Also: within the Misplaced Pages mobile apps, data comes off the Wikimedia API so, formatting is stripped, and images live on separate lines from text. Apps are buggy as all hell in their on right, however (often can't reply on this very page for example)…

‡ not to be confused with the 'Desktop'/'Mobile view' button at bottom of Wiki pages. -- dsprc  07:23, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know that Browser's desktop mode fixes it, and I assume that is due to the fact that all elements (texts and images) appear to reduce in size in that mode allowing more space for complete words to appear. However, on the right you can see how a Signpost article with image in portrait mode looks like in mobile generally. Another way to view it would be to view it in landscape mode, but portrait mode should also work fine without needing to change mode or orientation. Thanks! —CX Zoom 07:41, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

It's primarily due to MediaWiki being shit and full of technical debt. Files are displayed within tables – rendering engine of the browser tries to wedge those tables into a tiny viewport, instead of doing sensible wordwrapping. The two coupled together = pain and suffering… with WMF web developers doing the flogging… Also doesn't matter if JP makes markup changes on their posts, as the mobile version here overrides competent formatting or markup choices. -- dsprc  08:53, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

MediaWiki doesn't use tables for images. Editors do. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:59, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

So, is there some solution for this? —CX Zoom 16:00, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

A few suggestions about the Signpost website

@JPxG Hello, I just wanted to thank you again for implementing an official website for the Signpost: it definitely has got potential!

I don't know if you already saw my comment on the announcement article, but I just wanted to point out a few graphical issues I've encountered over there. Firstly, some of the pictures included in the articles look misplaced and tend to "invade" quotes (like on this page, for example); secondly, I think the bold font used for the articles' headlines and paragraphs is a bit too hard on the eyes, since it appears to be in heavy contrast with everything else...

Speaking of high/low contrast, what about including an option to switch from a light background to a dark one, and vice versa? Anyway, keep it up, because you've already done a great job so far! : ) Oltrepier (talk) 09:13, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Gallery issue at signpost.news

Featured pictures gallery at signpost.news looks pretty bad. Somehow it turned the gallery into a bulleted list of thumbnails (or something). ☆ Bri (talk) 18:46, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Watchlist notices

If I'm reading MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-messages/Archive 12 correctly, the Signpost hasn't had a watchlist notice since May. Is this a problem with the Signpost publishing script, or something else? Could it be fixed? This is the main way I was getting reminded to read the Signpost.

Is the Signpost still publishing bi-weekly? Was that a factor in watchlist notices getting declined? Personally I liked it when the Signpost published monthly instead of bi-weekly, so just throwing that out there. –Novem Linguae (talk) 16:09, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

I just put Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost on my watchlist. The traffic on this talk page is low enough that nearly every time this page pops up on my watchlist, it's for a new issue. I think you can also get a notice delivered to your talk page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:22, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: To get a notification *only* about new issues without the talk page traffic, you can watch Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/Templates/Issue. For anyone who wants them, subscriptions are thataway. Graham87 (talk) 12:23, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

We got pushback from the community on using the watchlist notices when we made publication more frequent than monthly: see MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-messages/Archive 12. I would not say it was consistent or overwhelming, but if somebody wanted to get it started again, it would probably need some kind of approval. The "monthly only" dictum might have spawned from the closure of this request. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps the publishing script could be modified to only request a watchlist notice once every other issue. –Novem Linguae (talk) 16:47, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

For context, Misplaced Pages talk:Misplaced Pages Signpost/Newsroom/Archive 35 § Watchlist notifications is where the last discussion on this can be seen. isaacl (talk) 17:17, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

I see the delivery notice on the user talk page of several colleagues. That's plenty for me; no need to put it in the watchlist header. Jim.henderson (talk) 11:02, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Ping JPxG

@JPxG I emailed you an idea for a submission a few days ago but didn't hear back, even after after following up with {{ygm}} on your talk page. Can you confirm that you saw my email and/or I'm following the right process? RoySmith (talk) 16:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

JPxG fix ping RoySmith (talk) 16:26, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

New former editor-in-chief?

I'm a bit confused by this edit: is there a new former editor-in-chief who doesn't appear in Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/About § Editors in chief? isaacl (talk) 02:32, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

That editor (called EricPupper at the time) declared themselves to be EiC in a moment of turnover at this project. I was already out as part of the team so I can't really speak to which issues EricPupper published. As I was a prior regime guy, I'll say no more. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:54, 5 December 2023 (UTC)