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Contradictory?
Under "Demographics" the number of Roma is given as 300,000. In the next line as a result of the census their number is given as 609,000. Which figure is correct? Or how is the difference explained?
Also: to my knowledge not all gipsies in Hungary are Roma. They are just the largest group. Hence the term "Roma" is regarded as an imposition by the smaller gipsy groups.
== Demography ==
=== Urbanization ===
{{Main|List of cities and towns of Hungary}}
{{Largest cities of Hungary}}
{{copied |from =www.en.wikipedia/List of cities and towns of Hungary}}
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] has 3,152 localities as of July 15, 2013. 346 towns (Hungarian term: ''város'', plural: ''városok''; the terminology doesn't distinguish between ] and ]s – the term town is used in official translations) and 2,806 villages (Hungarian: ''község'', plural: ''községek''). The number of towns can change, since villages can be elevated to town status by act of the President. The capital Budapest has a special status and is not included in any county while 23 of the towns are so-called urban counties (''megyei jogú város'' – town with county rights). All county seats except Budapest are urban counties.
Four of the cities (], ], ], and ]) have agglomerations, and the Hungarian Statistical Office distinguishes seventeen other areas in earlier stages of agglomeration development.<ref>http://portal.ksh.hu/portal/page?_pageid=37,412178&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL#sett</ref>
The largest city is the capital, Budapest, the smallest town is ] with 1038 inhabitants (2010). The largest village is ] (population: 10,123 as of 2010) There are more than 100 villages with fewer than 100 inhabitants while the smallest villages have fewer than 20 inhabitants.
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Spelling errors
everything here has a few too many spelling errors 97.95.133.52 (talk) 15:35, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
- So fix it. Since this page is semi-protected, make an edit request. CLYDE /STUFF DONE 18:02, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- I just went through the entire article and made some spelling corrections, but there didn't seem to me to be all that many. I ignored the following possible changes, for now, subject to discussion:
- Proper names of persons, places, etc., and words in other languages. This is beyond my knowledge. 97.95.133.52, if those are the errors you refer to, and you can correct them, go for it.
- British spellings, like labour and specialise. If the consensus is that they should be Americanized, I can go back and do that.
- A few words that weren't in the online, free version of Merriam-Webster, or found in use in a Google search, but were in Wiktionary.
- Dgndenver (talk) 09:32, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
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62.165.217.142 (talk) 16:03, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 16:30, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Puzzled
What does this mean? "The vast majority of the seventeen and nineteen thousand Ottoman soldiers in service in the Ottoman fortresses in the territory of Hungary were Orthodox and Muslim Balkan Slavs rather than ethnic Turkish people." Maybe "seventeen TO nineteen"?
I would fix it if I knew what was intended, but I'm unsure. The reference is to a book, so I can't check it. Dgndenver (talk) 07:03, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
- It would be ok to change it to "thousands". The precise number doesn't add much value. Nemo 07:56, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Connections to the "Eastern world" and Organization of Turkic States
A user repeteadly added the following text to the lead:
- In recent times, Hungary has developed increasingly strong geopolitical ties with the Eastern World. Since 2018, it has held observer status within the Organisation of Turkic States.
This is a random piece of information that does not belong to the lead which should only give a very brief overview of the country. Referring to "eastern connections" is very vague and many western countries have much stronger ties, e.g., with China and India, than Hungary, yet, none of them have this in their lead. Referring to the Organization of Turkic States is even more irrelevant, as Hungary only has an observer status, and even full members do not have this information in the lead of their WP articles. Hungary is a full member of hundreds of various organizations, it does not make sense to randomly list one in which the country is only an observer. KœrteFa {ταλκ} 15:46, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- Agree, that should be not in the lead, this user is new, probably he does not know the wiki standards. OrionNimrod (talk) 16:08, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- For me this was very strange from that user, he claimed the Hungarian foods are Ottoman and Asian foods :D https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Hungarian_cuisine&diff=prev&oldid=1176615793 OrionNimrod (talk) 16:10, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- ?? I did not introduce that claim about Hungarian food. It was another user that mentioned the Ottoman influence on Hungarian food, and claimed that Hungarian food was over a base of traditional elements from Central Asia. All I did was modify his edit to mention it as an influence rather than the foundation of Hungarian food. I wasn’t going to remove these additions, as they are not necessarily incorrect, Hungary’s cuisine was influenced by the Ottoman Empire. However, in relation to the eastern origins of the Hungarians, I do not know how much it influenced the cuisine. Atilla the Great (talk) 16:44, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- For me this was very strange from that user, he claimed the Hungarian foods are Ottoman and Asian foods :D https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Hungarian_cuisine&diff=prev&oldid=1176615793 OrionNimrod (talk) 16:10, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- I appreciate your comments, however, I still believe it was appropriate to mention it. It’s common knowledge that Hungary is very politically divided from the countries to its west, and, if you follow Hungarian politics, you will know that, Hungary is increasingly politically involved with countries to its East. Atilla the Great (talk) 16:48, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- This is a kind of political POV that should be avoided in WP, especially in the lead of a country. KœrteFa {ταλκ} 18:10, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry my mistake, it was another user https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Hungarian_cuisine&diff=prev&oldid=1165108671 OrionNimrod (talk) 16:55, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
References
- "Orbán hosts Erdoğan and other eastern leaders on Hungary's National Day". euronews. 2023-08-21. Retrieved 2023-09-18.
- "Government: Our policy of opening to the East is working". Daily News Hungary. 2023-07-01. Retrieved 2023-09-18.
- "ANALYSIS - Hungary in the Organization of Turkic States: A Bridge between East and West". www.aa.com.tr. Retrieved 2023-09-19.
Length
At nearly 15k words of readable prose, this article is quite long - it would benefit from being summarized and details shifted to subarticles, per WP:SS. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:04, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Ottoman Hungary
Hi @Szirtyu, are you able to read Hungarian sources?
What is your opinion? @Norden1990 @Borsoka @Gyalu22
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Hungary&diff=prev&oldid=1193225987
I think the lead is just a short summarize of the events. Hungarian historiography holds the well known view "150 years Ottoman occupation" term (which we know is more or less number), all of them starts from 1541, when Buda was occupied and Hungary was split in three.
"With the capture of Buda in 1541, Ottoman rule began in the central part of Hungary. But this rule was at first limited to the military occupation of a few fortified places. It took many years for the Turks to build up their public administration, the institutions that set the framework for their settlement here"
"Central part' is a general broad term, this is a lead, the sub article has all details and maps: Ottoman Hungary. Belgrade was occupied in 1521, after Mohacs, some southern areas was occupied in Syrmia, but that are just border regions and Hungary was not occupied, but Hungary was destroyed and occupied by the date of 1541 by the siege of Buda, and Buda was recaptured in 1686, and after the second battle of Mohacs in 1687, and finally by the Treaty of Karlowitz Hungary was mostly recaptured and restored, only the Temes region remained udner Ottoman control until 1718 by the Treaty of Passarowitz. Why should we care border areas in the lead? For example Belgrade was occupied by the Habsburgs 3 times just in 1700s. Should we talk about more "Ottoman Hungary" because of Belgrade? Because of a border area?
Should we say A country occupied B country or B country occupied A country just because the border regions always changed? OrionNimrod (talk) 19:37, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- the Banat of Temeswar, Belgrade and Syrmia were occupied by the Ottomans until the Treaty of Passarowitz in 1718. Furthermore, after the Treaty of Karlowitz, it took time for some of the territories ceded to the Habsburgs under this treaty to actually be transferred from Ottoman to Habsburg rule. Whilst Buda was ruled between 1541 and 1699, it’s appropriate to specify the years 1526 and 1718 as the sentence describes the period during which the Kingdom was partially occupied. Szirtyu (talk) 00:31, 3 January 2024 (UTC)