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House in Trier, Germany, where Marx spent his childhood and youth

Heinrich Marx, the father of Karl Marx, bought the small mansard roof building in Trier´s Simeonstrasse in 1819 when Karl was only one year old. The later socialist grew up here with his parents and five siblings and moved out aged 17 after his graduation from secondary school (Gymnasium). Yet as a grown up man, he returned to Trier several times to visit his relatives. Compared to today, little has changed in the historical city center of Trier: The main characteristics of the old town around the market place have been preserved and looked more or less the same back in the days when Karl Marx lived there . In particular the neighbourhood of the house to the Trier's most famous landmark, the Roman city gate Porta Nigra, is still impressive. In most parts unchanged to this day, it is likely that Karl Marx took the very same route to school every day that tourists can walk today . The house in Simeonstraße had a lasting impact on Karl Marx, especially since he had been educated here in home schooling until the age of 12 . As an adult, Karl Marx returned to live with his family in this house during his visits several times. For example in 1841 after his doctoral studies in Berlin, Marx travelled back to Trier. The main reason for his return home was to be close to his long-term fiancée Jenny von Westphalen. Also in the following year, 1842, Karl Marx spent some months in the house in Simeonstraße 8 (then Simeongasse 1040) in order to take care of family matters .

Location of the house The former home of Karl Marx in Simeonstraße 8 (then Simeongasse 1040) looks rather unremarkable at the beginning of Trier's shopping promenade close to the famous Porta Nigra. Only a few minutes walk leads visitors to the bronze statue of Karl Marx by Wu Weishan – a present from the People's Republic of China to Trier.

References

1. Longuet, Robert-Jean (1977). Karl Marx mein Urgroßvater. Berlin. p. 16.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)
2. Neffe, Jürgen (2017). Marx der Unvollendete. Bertelsmann. p. 41. ISBN ISBN-13 978-3570102732. {{cite book}}: Check |isbn= value: invalid character (help)
3. Monz, Heinz (1964). Trier. p. 164. {{cite book}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)
4. Baumeister, Jens (2017). Wie der Wein Karl Marx zum Kommunisten machte: Ein Kommunist als Streiter für die Moselwinzer. Trier. p. 32. ISBN ISBN 978-3000564710. {{cite book}}: Check |isbn= value: invalid character (help)CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)
5. Longuet, Robert-Jean (1977). Karl Marx mein Urgroßvater. Berlin. p. 52.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)

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 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Liu1126 (talk) 16:09, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Ruling class was Aristocracy

Bourgeois as per Marx himself were the Middle Class or people who had risen out of the Proletariat to management and supervisory roles during the Industrial Revolution. Bourgeois being described as Ruling class without any Relevant attribution is misleading 117.200.101.217 (talk) 07:36, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Aristocracy was the ruling class under feudalism. Under emerging capitalism the ruling class was the bourgeoisie.--Jack Upland (talk) 04:27, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

What is the source of this assertion? Under Capitalism, the Ruling class is either democratic or aristrocratic or a combination of both like we see in UK. The ruling class would be extended Political officers like Ministers and Bureaucrats as well. On the other hand, bourgeoisie in the context of Marx era seems to refer to newly rich people who rose through education, hard work and skill development and disrupted the established hierarchy to gain status equal to that of Marx who himself came from a rich family and grew up in a 10 bedroom house in Austria. Disdain for bourgeoisie seems to be more targeted a nouveau riche who were seen with disdain by Old money families of Europe like that of Marx himself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.241.162.40 (talk • contribs) 05:39, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Would The Communist Manifesto be an okay source for what Marx thought?

The modern bourgeois society that has sprouted from the ruins of feudal society has not done away with class antagonisms. It has but established new classes, new conditions of oppression, new forms of struggle in place of the old ones.

We see then: the means of production and of exchange, on whose foundation the bourgeoisie built itself up, were generated in feudal society. At a certain stage in the development of these means of production and of exchange, the conditions under which feudal society produced and exchanged, the feudal organisation of agriculture and manufacturing industry, in one word, the feudal relations of property became no longer compatible with the already developed productive forces; they became so many fetters. They had to be burst asunder; they were burst asunder. Into their place stepped free competition, accompanied by a social and political constitution adapted in it, and the economic and political sway of the bourgeois class.

Hitherto, every form of society has been based, as we have already seen, on the antagonism of oppressing and oppressed classes. But in order to oppress a class, certain conditions must be assured to it under which it can, at least, continue its slavish existence. The serf, in the period of serfdom, raised himself to membership in the commune, just as the petty bourgeois, under the yoke of the feudal absolutism, managed to develop into a bourgeois. The modern labourer, on the contrary, instead of rising with the process of industry, sinks deeper and deeper below the conditions of existence of his own class. He becomes a pauper, and pauperism develops more rapidly than population and wealth. And here it becomes evident, that the bourgeoisie is unfit any longer to be the ruling class in society, and to impose its conditions of existence upon society as an over-riding law. It is unfit to rule because it is incompetent to assure an existence to its slave within his slavery, because it cannot help letting him sink into such a state, that it has to feed him, instead of being fed by him. Society can no longer live under this bourgeoisie, in other words, its existence is no longer compatible with society.

You may have different or evolved analyses, but I assume this suffices to establish what Marx thought as regards your question. Remsense诉 06:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Also, Marx came from a privileged background, but not a wealthy one. His dad was a lawyer—a working professional, but certainly not old money. (In Trier, a city owned by the Prussians in the Rhine valley, for what it's worth, not Austria. I'm not aware of Marx stepping foot east of the Neckar once in his entire life, actually.) Remsense诉 06:32, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

My request is simple. Provide a source that says bourgeoisie is ruling class as cited in the page or expunge this misleading line. Nowhere in the paragraph from Communist Manifesto does it say bourgeoisie is ruling class? Aristrocracy continues till date in China and Russia in the form of CCP Members who have imposed Dictatorship of the Communist Party on the Proletariat, including Billionaires who are forced to comply to the will of the Communist Aristrocracy or they will have to suffer consequences. Eg- A man from the Proletariat like Jack Ma built a Multi billion empire and Communist dictatorship took punitive actions against him https://www.hindustantimes.com/business/china-imposes-nearly-1-billion-fine-on-jack-mas-ant-group-report-101688876840172.html#:~:text=China%20imposes%20nearly%20%241%20billion,Ant%20Group%3A%20Report%20%2D%20Hindustan%20Times — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.241.162.40 (talk • contribs) 10:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

(Please remember to sign your posts so people know who they are talking to and can easily reply.)

I have provided direct quotes, and even highlighted them for you. This page is about what Marx himself thought and wrote about, not anything anyone did in the 20th century after decades of history following his death and the evolution of his ideas by others. Remsense诉 11:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

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Moses Mordecai Levi, otherwise known as Karl Heinrich Marx (May 5, 1818-March 14, 1883) was a German-Jewish philosopher, economist, historian, revolutionary, and journalist from Trier, Germany. Prism Steno Book (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.
— Urro ⋮ 13:43, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

In need of profound revision

This is not an encyclopaedic entry, but a hagiography. No other thinker in Misplaced Pages has received such an uncritical appearance, not even Aristotle or Plato. Criticism of Marx has been masked or removed, including the fact that most of Marx's theories have been conclusively refuted. I add an NPOV. 86.6.148.125 (talk) 16:03, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

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