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Bob Cornuke? Robert Cornuke?
Why does an article of Bob Cornuke talks about Robert Cornuke? Are they the same person?
If so, an explanation is needed to clear things up for readers?--Wai Wai (talk) 04:28, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
I have removed material from this article that does not comply with our policy on the biographies of living persons. Biographical material must always be referenced from reliable sources, especially negative material. Negative material that does not comply with that must be immediately removed. Note that the removal does not imply that the information is either true or false.
Please do not reinsert this material unless you can provide reliable citations, and can ensure it is written in a neutral tone. Please review the relevant policies before editing in this regard. Editors should note that failure to follow this policy may result in the removal of editing privileges.--Doc 19:54, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Edits to the introduction
I shortened the first two paragraphs of introduction without actually removing any information - words have ben removed, but not the sense they convey. I deleted entirely the third paragraph, as it sems to me not to convey any real information - it's Cornuke's views on the way he works - but if anyone thinks it's important I suggest putting it in as a section in its own right in the body of the article. I also changed "Bob" to "Cornuke", as being more formal and more appropriate to an encyclopedia. PiCo 07:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Reverting
I just reverted a bunch of additions because of the unencylopedic tone, WP:OR, and the undue weight policy concerning science. For example, I removed, "He uses the skills he developed as a crime scene investigator to study Biblical..." Stuff like that is POV until this is validate by a community of archaeologists. Other claims like "LBU was founded in 1973 and every course is designed to meet or exceed national norms..." are clearly POV. It may be true or it may be false. Without a source or any implication of what this means about Cornuke's unaccredited credentials in the academic community it has no place in the article. Most distrubing is the treatment of trying to ignore the criticism. Such as "Franz’ 'claim' is a misquote from Cornuke’s In Search of the Mountain of God book..." is WP:OR and should be removed immediately. The same goes for "What Franz chooses ignore are the documented statements of Frank Moore Cross..." which is also WP:OR.
If you wish to refute someone or prove that these are Biblical ruins you must do it first in a peer reviewed journal. C56C 04:04, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- No reply, just a revert. I'm not suprised. C56C 05:13, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Then edit the text to remove material that you believe violates policy, DO NOT REMOVE CITED VALID ADDITIONS TO THE ARTICLE AS THAT VIOLATES WIKIPEDIA POLICY. --SYITS 14:15, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- SYITS, you've been warned about this. Do not add in WP:OR or WP:NPOV. Being a former police officer does not imply training in archeology, and wikipedia will not make that connection either. You appear to be a WP:SPA. Do not do a wholesale revert again. Present each change here on the talk, and we'll discuss it. But as for now, I don't see any of your changes as valid or helpful. Arbustoo 00:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Arbustoo, I will say the same, DO NOT DO A WHOLESALE REVERT AGAIN. Much more relevant and cited material has been added to the biography in response to various entries and it conforms with policy, not just enhancements to the intro. Edit language, DO NOT REMOVE CITED MATERIAL. If you continue to do this, we will contact administration for resolution. I never said that training as a police officer qualifies him as training as an archeologist, but it is relevant information for his BIOGRAPHY and EXPERIENCE and those skills have been useful to his explorations. --SYITS 15:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Without proper credentials, he is not a archeologist, and will likely never be one. Anyone can read books, dress up and self publish books. Your edits have violated OR, NPOV, COPYVIO, and SPA. If you choose not to discussion you changes you will be blocked for disruption. If Cornuke wishes to call himself archeologist he should attend an accredited program. Until then, the article will state that he is simply a former police officer turned "self styled Indiana Jones."
- In particular I find your edits about Franz most troubling. It violates the policies stated above. Arbustoo 01:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- SYITS, your additions are indeed original research. You need to cite reliable independent (i.e. not Cornuke apologist) sources which attest to the validity and significance of these claims. Guy (Help!) 06:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Truthteller86 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) was reverted. Arbustoo 01:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)