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Image?

What kind of image could we possibly have here? It's not like you can put up a picture of two kids, and say, "This one passed his classes, and that one flunked the classes but got sent to the next grade anyway." I'm inclined to remove the request for the photo unless a specific idea is listed here. WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Statistics

"In the United States, no statistics are kept on retention. For boys and minorities, retention is even more common. Nationally, by the time students reach high school, the retention rate for boys is about ten percentage points higher than for girls. In the early grades, retention rates are similar among white Americans, African Americans, and Hispanic Americans. By high school, the rate is about 15 percentage points higher for African Americans and Hispanics than for whites."

The first sentence says no statistics are kept on retention, but then statistics are given, including the word "nationally" (which seems, from the previous statement about the US not keeping statistics, to imply the United States). If no statistics are kept, how is this possible? Further sections go on to give detailed statistics about specific areas, like NYC.

Sigil93dotNet (talk) 10:48, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, you get that a lot. I call it "self-contradiction". If you care enough about an issue (but aren't "dedicated to reality at all costs", as M. Scott Peck might say), then you won't notice the contradiction. This kind of double talk also appears in 1984 (novel) (see Doublethink).

Let's look into it a bit further. --Uncle Ed (talk) 21:11, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

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