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This article was nominated for deletion on April 8, 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

Brutal facility

Straight, Inc. was a brutal teen torture facility. Hundreds of kids were abused there every day, many by noted criminal child abuser Miller Newton, who served as National Director of Straight, Inc. until 1983. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtp2003 (talk • contribs) 05:31, September 2, 2006 (UTC)

Sept 24 2006 Rewrite

This is essentially a complete rewrite. I've kept some of the first paragraph, everything else is changed.

I removed the entire section on the phases, which was most of the article -- they didn't seem very relevent, and they were completely uncited. If someone finds a good way to put a summarized version of them in, that'd be great.

I had trouble keeping this NPOV -- the only sources I could find talk about its abuse towards its clients and mention various lawsuits. And none of them mention their own sources. Unfortunately, I think I left a fair amount of information out just because I couldn't lose the POV ...

LamilLerran 10:08, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Some things can simply not be viewed from a neutral point of view. Straight is one such thing. Every honest attempt at putting them in a neutral light has to trigger use of some adjectives. Like appalling, bigoted and illegal. But, as wikipedia goes, even Hitler surely was a nice guy after leaving his office and it would be against policy to simply write that he was a human monster. 87.78.178.85 11:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Names of People Who Profited From This

Having known many people who were very badly abused by these programs (2 of my best friends, and 10 others), I would like to know who made the money from this.

We prosecuted the Nazis and the Japanese. Let's get the names on the web for people.

Apparently, a Mel Sempler was involved as co-founder. Let's get ALL the names. All who profited.

Xchanter 01:14, 30 October 2006 (UTC)Xchanter

speedy during Afd

Please do not interfere with WP process. speedy is for incontestably NN articles or obvious attack pages. This is supported by the source, and deletion has been and is being contested. The AfD should run its course. It would, however, help to have stronger sourcing. DGG 05:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Unsupported accusations

I have removed:

Allegations of Abuse

Several former patients have claimed that widespread abuse occurred at Straight, Inc. Shelby Cornwell has made several allegations:

• " staff member passed out pictures of my father ... The staff member told the group that the man in the pictures was my boyfriend, asked the group how they felt about me 'f***ing an old man'"
• "I was in group when clients were 'marathoned.' This meant that the client was kept apart from group for several days, 3 was common. During that time, they were kept in the bathroom or a small, empty office and beaten, cursed, spat on, and denied food and sleep."
• "In St. Petersburg, FL, staff would turn the heat on in the middle of summer ... Many people vomited and passed out due to heat exhaustion."

Leigh Ann Bright also reports abuse: "They broke kids' bones and bloodied them up. They drove kids to attempt suicide. Brutality was part of their program. They called it 'tough love'".

Though these accusations are sourced, there is no way of knowing if they are accurate and IMHO we should not record accusations without greater reliability.

I have also removed:

"To date many of those responsible for the abuse inflicted upon former patients of Straight still go unpunished. Some, like the programs founding couple have even rewarded for their efforts in destroying the lives of thousands of teens in the US."

This is POV, pure and simple. Bridgeplayer 16:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

1. "More Straight, Incorporated survivor accounts." The Agitator.
2. Cite error: The named reference cannabisculture was invoked but never defined (see the help page).