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master's degree in economics at Harvard?

The article currently states: " While at Harvard, Gandhi obtained a Master's degree in Economics." The citation is to this Guardian article (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/mar/22/india.randeepramesh) which provides no evidence that Rahul Gandhi earned at master's degree in economics at Harvard. This sentence should be deleted. Redgon (talk) 05:52, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Calling for discussion upon this from fellow WikiProject Indian politics members, the election commission website links the most recent affidavit also does not mention Harvard University anywhere.
The citation also does not state that he completed his degree at Harvard, he was most probably relocated at Rollins College after his first year at Harvard according to credible sources. I will watch this space for any other opinions and change it after a week or two. Xoocit (talk) 18:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Looking further into the subject, there are no credible sources that state he pursued a master's in economics in the first place. Not sure how this was introduced into the first place in this article. Xoocit (talk) 18:40, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Removing the said portions from the article which were originally introduced by @25 Cents FC Xoocit (talk) 05:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Reversion

25 Cents FC that threat of his is scary which is why I thought it should be included.-Haani40 (talk) 21:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC) Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Souniel Yadav

Your addition misquoted him. None of the sources you cited establish that he said "we will set the whole country on fire". Cordless Larry (talk) 22:02, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
@Cordless Larry: He said,

If BJP wins these fixed elections, and changes the Constitution, the country will be on fire

-Haani40 (talk) 02:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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So, can I add,

Rahul Gandhi has threatened, "If BJP wins these fixed elections, and changes the Constitution, the country will be on fire" at a rally while campaigning for the 2024 Indian parliamentary election

-Haani40 (talk) 02:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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Can it be added in the section titled, "Political and social views" with no sub-heading?-Haani40 (talk) 02:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC) Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Souniel Yadav
in the Narendra Modi article, allegations have been made with just one source - here I am providing 4 sources for what he (Rahul Gandhi) really said.-Haani40 (talk) 06:08, 19 April 2024 (UTC) Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Souniel Yadav
There's an important difference between someone saying that something will be on fire and threatening to set it on fire! Cordless Larry (talk) 07:31, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes expressing fear, fear mongering and threatening are different different things. Bookku (talk) 07:39, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
@Cordless Larry: So, can I add,

Rahul Gandhi has said, "If BJP wins these fixed elections, and changes the Constitution, the country will be on fire" at a rally while campaigning for the 2024 Indian parliamentary election

?-Haani40 (talk) 09:35, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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It's not up to me to decide. Your addition has been reverted, so you need to establish consensus before trying again, but you should take into account the advice you've received at the Teahouse and on your user talk page. Personally, I'd drop it and move on to something else. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:11, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
@25 Cents FC: I like your,

Today's motto: Don’t fight fire with fire, Water works a lot better.

on your user page. Please read all that has been typed above and let us know if we can add what Cordless Larry seems to be suggesting (that my last proposal is fine if consensus is arrived at for it).-Haani40 (talk) 12:16, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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Hello @Haani40. Like I mentioned while reverting your edits, politicians in India make a lot of statements on a regular basis. Some find them controversial, while others support them. I was checking similar notes and found a statement by Amit Shah that "there will be communal riots in Karnataka if the Congress wins the Karnataka elections" or "If BJP Loses Bihar Elections, Crackers Will Go Off in Pakistan". It's very clear that such statements are made, especially by Indian politicians, purely based on winning elections. We are not supposed to include such parts only because you and I felt scared. Hope it helps! Thank you. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  13:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
@Haani40 You asked a question and other users suggested to you otherwise @ Misplaced Pages:Teahouse#WP:BLP_violation. Bookku (talk) 07:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

References

  1. ""If BJP wins these match fixed elections...country will be on fire": Rahul Gandhi". The Hawk. 2024-03-31. Retrieved 2024-04-10.
  2. Khanduri, Shailesh (2024-03-31). "India will burn if BJP wins 2024 Lok Sabha polls: Rahul Gandhi at Ramlila ground". NewsDrum. Retrieved 2024-04-10.
  3. "Race to Lok Sabha: 'If BJP wins these match fixed polls...country will be on fire'". Bangalore Mirror. 2024-04-01. Retrieved 2024-04-10.
  4. "INDIA Bloc Rally". The Economic Times. 2024-03-31. Retrieved 2024-04-10.

Political and social views

I will be completely revamping the political and social views section. You may notice frequent removals and additions of new content. I would be very glad to receive suggestions. Thank you. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS  21:37, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Do we consider "The Hawk" a reliable source?? https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources DataCrusade1999 (talk) 09:19, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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Kindly Change the image of Rahul Gandhi. It looks odd, old and he changed his appearance. Kindly update with latest picture otherwise keep the old one. Dr. Trafalgar D Water Law (talk) 01:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Please make a specific suggestion and seek consensus for the change. Usedtobecool ☎️ 01:31, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Update image as of 2024. He don't look like that anymore. Dr. Trafalgar D Water Law (talk) 17:27, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
The picture is already latest and there is no need of changing it. Misplaced Pages is not any album. ZenDragoX (User) | (Contact) 09:13, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

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Please change the picture to latest one 103.38.126.101 (talk) 11:39, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Same as discussion above. Liu1126 (talk) 17:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

The image in the infobox

People keep changing the image in the infobox. Some people prefer File:Rahul Gandhi.png (taken in 2024), whilst others prefer File:Rahul Gandhi in Shillong (cropped).jpg (taken in 2018) or File:Rahul Gandhi speaking (cropped).jpg (taken in 2018). @Ah507, GaiusAugustine, Zendrago X, and MrMkG: Do any of you have reasons for preferring one picture over another? -- Toddy1 (talk) 06:36, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

File:Rahul Gandhi.png seems to be edited and modified, with white in the background it also seems very low quality. Choose either File:Rahul Gandhi in Shillong (cropped).jpg or File:Rahul Gandhi speaking (cropped).jpg. Ah507 (talk) 08:27, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
2024 image
  • The most recent image provides the most accurate representation of Rahul Gandhi's current appearance. People change over time, and using an outdated image might not reflect his current age, style, or demeanor accurately.
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ZenDragoX (User) | (Contact) 10:40, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
In general I agree that the more recent image is preferable, given that he is still working as a politician. But there appear to be issues with File:Rahul Gandhi.png. I suspect that it is an edited PTI photograph taken in 2022. The photograph in this December 2022 India TV News story looks as though it was taken on the same day. Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Images#Editing images says that blurring the background is permitted - so blanking the background is probably also OK (though blurring would have been preferable). But it says all changes to images taken from outside sources should be noted on the image's description page. For images created by editors themselves, changes which could have been part of the image's original composition—such as rotation or minor cropping—need not be mentioned on the description page. c:File:Rahul Gandhi.png says that it is the uploader's own work. See c:User talk:Josve05a#Rahul Gandhi.png, which discusses issues with this photograph. So it is remains to be seen whether the image will remain on Commons.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
I understand the logic behind recent images, but this rule of recent images does not apply throughout wikipedia, look at the page: Sonia Gandhi. However, the low quality image and editing with the background to white is what is putting the page off. If there is any new image which qualifies to what @Zendrago X is saying then it may be added. Ah507 (talk) 10:09, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
the image File:Rahul Gandhi.png should be removed in preference to another. Ah507 (talk) 10:10, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Sonia Gandhi was party leader of the Indian National Congress from 1998 to 2017, so a 2014 image of her makes sense.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:19, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Same logic should apply to Rahul Gandhi as well since he was only the party leader of the Indian National Congress from 2017 to 2019. If the basis for using the current image of Rahul Gandhi is on him being a Member of Parliament, in that case, Sonia Gandhi is too an incumbent Member of Parliament.
Therefore, this logic seems inconsistent in terms of why a recent image should be used for Rahul Gandhi and not Sonia Gandhi. Ah507 (talk) 19:55, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Rahul Gandhi is currently active in politics and he is one of the leader of INC. Sonia Gandhi is not active in politics now. ZenDragoX (User) | (Contact) 11:33, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Sonia Gandhi is indeed active in politics and is a current Member of Parliament in the Rajya Sabha and was previously Member of Parliament in the Lok Sabha. If not, then clarify by what you mean by "active in politics".
Rahul Gandhi holds no incumbent leadership position in the INC itself, although he is the chairman of the NSUI and IYC. Ah507 (talk) 07:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
I have updated the image to File:Rahul gandhi.jpg as it a more recent image of him in 2024. Should alleviate concerns with the low quality, and editing of the previous image (File:Rahul Gandhi.png), as well issues with the recentness of the image. Ah507 (talk) 07:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
You should upload a picture that is freely licensed otherwise it would get deleted. ZenDragoX (User) | (Contact) 09:43, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Rahul gandhi.jpg has been deleted, so an editor added this 2022 photograph File:Rahul Gandhi 2022.jpg. I take the point about the imperfections of File:Rahul Gandhi.png (taken in 2024), but I would prefer to go back to Rahul Gandhi.png because it shows his face better. Rahul Gandhi 2022.jpg shows his left ear better.-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:53, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

There are many good pictures of him on his YT channel, but problem is that the video has license of Creative Commons Attribution licence (reuse allowed), but in description there is mentioned that "The IP of this video belongs to Rahul Gandhi. Unauthorised usage is prohibited and will be prosecuted". And many news channel and YT channels use those videos, but that line is little confusing. So I need advice that can I upload picture from there as there is CC license mentioned there or it is not allowed to upload. That is really confusing. ZenDragoX (User) | (Contact) 14:56, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Please use this photo Rahul Gandhi, January 2018.jpg, this photo is better, as this one Rahul Gandhi 2022.jpg looks "sus" and this one File:Rahul Gandhi.png looks like a "mugshot" Redmyname31 (talk) 14:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
That picture is old and he does not look like that now. ZenDragoX (User) | (Contact) 13:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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Rahul Gandhi has chosen to vacate the Wayanad seat and stay in Rae Bareli. Block345 (talk) 23:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 12:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

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I just want to change Rahul Gandhi's photo, currently it's too old photo, i would like to add a new good photo 2A02:CE0:1000:D3D6:7DDB:EFA2:4303:BD83 (talk) 21:06, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. link to your intended photo here and reopen the request then. Also see WP:Image Use Policy first Cannolis (talk) 21:37, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

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Rahul Gandhi is a British Citizen 73.162.138.162 (talk) 04:18, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. GrabUp - Talk 10:41, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Controversial Lok Sabha speech insulting Hindus in 2024

During his 1st speech as the Leader of the Opposition in the Lok Sabha, on 1st July 2024, Rahul Gandhi triggered a political firestorm as the Congress leader. Insulting Hindus, he accused the Bharatiya Janata Party of spreading “violence, hatred and lies”. In his fractious note, he said that “those who call themselves Hindus… are engaged in violence and hate.”https://theprint.in/politics/bjp-spreads-hatred-they-are-no-hindus-rahul-gandhis-1st-speech-as-lop-causes-furore-in-ls/2155721/https://indianexpress.com/article/india/rahul-gandhi-debuts-as-lop-hatred-in-name-of-hinduism-to-fear-to-lets-work-together-9427068/https://www.deccanherald.com/india/rajasthan/rahul-gandhi-insulted-hindus-his-lok-sabha-speech-full-of-lies-rajasthan-cm-bhajanlal-sharma-3089364 ASHOKATTRISHARMA (talk) 22:13, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

There can be many statements of politicians saying things in the Lok Sabha. No requirement to mention all of them on the Misplaced Pages page. Ah507 (talk) 07:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
@ASHOKATTRISHARMA: Which source says he insulted hindus? GrabUp - Talk 07:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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Source: he has served as the 12th Leader of the Opposition in Lok Sabha Edit: he is serving as the 12th Leader of the Opposition in Lok Sabha Ravikiranias (talk) 10:18, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: The current sentence is grammatically correct. "He is serving ... since June 2024" would be wrong. ''']''' (talkcontribs) 13:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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