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I prefer wudu rather than wodoo. The terms I used is from arabic and usually refer as wuduk. Wodoo sound more like vodoo. If need to merge, should be into wudu.Yosri 17:17, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Reason

There should be information on the significance of Wudu for Muslims (I don't feel comfortable adding anything as I'm not too sure on the subject.) Swinger222 19:25, 10 May 2005 (GMT)

Indeed, I'm very keen to understand this concept further. It seems redundant to wash one's hands first, then wash the rest of your body including your feet. You're just cross-contaminating your hands again. Surely this originated as a method of enforcing general hygeine amongst practitioners of Islam, but even in historical times, even the lesser educated must have seen and realised this cross contamination? Jachin 00:54, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, it's a mix of hygeine and in many ways (I believe) it is more figurative action. Being clean before God when you pray. I mean, the only way for cleanliness since there is no soap or anything used is to wash everything multiple times. gren グレン 01:17, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

As a complete outsider I am curious as to how and when soap would be incorporated, for example after performing ones ablutions. Would you wash your hands with soap before, and then do the ritual washing, or could it be incorporated into the ritual? --Mig77 11:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

You're free to use soap afterwards. You're "clean" until you urinate, bleed, break wind, sleep and wake up etc.

However you cannot use soap for the ablution itself. It's the religious teaching, there is no rule saying not to but the process is described clearly there for you cannot alter it.

Permitted Water Types

I'm afraid I'm not an expert on Islam, but the section on waters permitted for use in Wudu says that bong water is okay. This seems like a cleansing process, so that inclusion is a bit odd. Is this true, or was this just some "creative editing?"

Major rewrite

I've rewritten a lot of the article to incorporate more detailed information such as, rthe classification of the acts of wudu, the significance of the wudu (still stubbed) and the wudu according to the four Maddhab (schools of islamic jurisprudence). I plan to include more information on the stubby sections. MP (talk) 11:26, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I m new here. So I don't know much about editing. Should these sentences be moved somewhere higher on the top of the page so that the readers can understand the significance of these instructions? “ This is based on the 6th Ayat of Surah al-Ma'ida (Qur'an 5:6) which states: "O you who believe! when you rise up to prayer, wash your faces and your hands as far as the elbows, wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles..." ”

Verycuriousboy 13:36, 25 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Verycuriousboy (talk • contribs)

Origins

While the quote from qu'ran mentions ablutions there is no information as to where the details of the ritual originate from. Was it an established ritual from existing religious practices or was it explained elsewhere (e.g. sunnah/hadith). Perhaps someone with detailed knowledge could add something about the origins of the processes of the ritual itself. MrBudgens 15:41, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Could it have orginated from Christianity?

According to Christian tradition, the Pharisees carried the practice of ablution to great excess (Matthew 23:25). The Gospel of Mark refers to their ceremonial ablutions (Mark 7:1–5): For the Pharisees...wash their hands "oft"; or, more acurately, "with the fist" (R.V., "diligently"); or, as Theophylact of Bulgaria explains it, "up to the elbow," referring to the actual word used in the Greek New Testament, pygmē, which refers to the arm from the elbow to the tips of the fingers. (Compare also Mark 7:4; Leviticus 6:28; Leviticus 11:32–36; Leviticus 15:22). (See Washing.)

References

1. Theophylact of Bulgaria, Blessed, The Explanation of the Holy Gospel According to St. Mark, (Tr. Chrysostomos Press, 1993. ISBN: 0-9635183-3-X), p.58.

mouth

This hadith includes washing the mouth. --Striver 03:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Washing the mouth and the nose, three times each is "Sunna(recommended by Mohammad." as far as I know

and it's practically part of the tradition, I have yet to come across someone who doesn't follow this when washing for prayer.

Wudu #Invalidation

Touch opposite gender by their clothing, not skin

If I touch a female who isn't my mother, sister etc. by their clothing and not on their skin, do I still have to retake my wudu? --Fantastic4boy 09:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Touching another person who is not in taharat

My logic tells me that touching another person who is not in taharat (such as by a handshake with) should break your taharat too. But this is not included in the list. The same should extend on all material objects: if a clean thing has touched an unclean thing, it cannot be considered clean anymore. Just my reasoning. Does it agree with Islam?
—6birc (talk) 08:42, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Not exactly, once you're clean by "Wudu" getting your hands dirty in a reasonable measure is not a problem,

you can just wash your hands and you're still clean. The consept is sort of inner purity, what spoils the ablution comes from within you: urine, sperm, blood, cursing, bad thoughts etc. You have no way of knowing who is clean and who is not.

Islam is simple to the one who keep faith. Only in Allah. Ujjie104 (talk) 17:08, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Quran & Wudu

There are four fard (obligatory) acts are clearly stated in the Quran see http://wikilivres.info/The_Holy_Qur%27an/Al-Meada verse 6 translated by Abdullah Yusuf Ali at wikilivres.info.

"O ye who believe! when ye prepare for prayer, wash your faces, and your hands (and arms) to the elbows; Rub your heads (with water); and (wash) your feet to the ankles."

see also the 2 below links

The Holy Qur'an - original source (1917, revised 1920), by Maulana Muhammad Ali at wikisource see http://en.wikisource.org/search/?title=File:Maulana_Muhammad_Ali_Quran.djvu&page=370

The Holy Qur'an (1917, revised 1920), by Maulana Muhammad Ali at wikisource http://en.wikisource.org/The_Holy_Qur%27an_(Maulana_Muhammad_Ali)/5._The_Food

Nasserb786 (talk) 06:04, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

References

1. The Holy Qur'an/Al-Meada(The Table) verse 6 (wikilivres.info)

Wahabis

for Wahabis please see section onWahabis. Wahabism is a conservative form of Sunni Islam

for Shia Islam see section on shia islam

Nasserb786 (talk) 06:04, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Invalidation Section

Invalidation section states no sources. Rewrite required 129.67.55.153 (talk) 19:50, 14 February 2011 (UTC)