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OdNahlawi

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08 October 2024

– An administrator or SPI clerk requires more information to determine what action to take.

Suspected sockpuppets

In this edit (quickly reverted) OdNahlawi appears to respond as though they are PeleYoetz. nableezy - 14:39, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

But the quote within it still suggests that they are answering as the other user. He wrote complained about what another user wrote, addressing PeleYoetz: Also, the choice of words, "PeleYoetz undid the changes and introduced WP:V errors in the article" doesn’t seem like you’re addressing me to explain my edits or calling for any action The doesn’t seem like you’re addressing me to explain my edits referring to what they themselves quote as being something written to PeleYoetz reads, to me at least, as answering as PeleYoetz. nableezy - 22:41, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

Sean.hoyland

Article intersection evidence suggests that the likelihood that the PeleYoetz account is being used for ban evasion is significantly greater than zero, certainly high enough to trigger a checkuser in my view. However, the ratio of disruptive to non-disruptive edits has not been at a sufficient level to trigger an SPI report from me personally. The possibility that there are multiple disposable ban evading actors being used by a single source in the PIA topic area where ban evasion starts fires changes that calculation.

  • The state of affairs on 18 August 2024 was that the PeleYoetz account had made ~1050 edits spread over ~380 different pages with 175 pages in common with topic banned and blocked editor User:Gilabrand, many to articles with relatively low pageview and revision counts. This is documented here, including the intersections at the time. The article intersection count is now 187.
  • The article intersection data for OdNahlawi vs Gilabrand may also indicate a connection.
  • The ban evasion activity timeline demonstrates that operating multiple actors concurrently is a property of this banned user. So, if PeleYoetz is being used for ban evasion it seems sensible to assign a high credence to the possibility that they could also be operating the OdNahlawi account and that Nableezy's interpretation could be correct. Sean.hoyland (talk) 03:16, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Levivich

"I thought I was on a different page" doesn't explain why one account would use the first person ("addressing me to explain my edits") when answering a message directed at another account on the other account's talk page. When it comes to socking, answering in the first person for another account is tantamount to a confession. I've noticed similarities between these accounts before and was thinking about filing an SPI but never saw anything as clear as OdNahlawi answering in the first person for PeleYoetz.

I would add to this list:

Some additional evidence:

Uppagus created Jan 28; PeleYoetz May 9; OdNahlawi June 18.

Similar and somewhat distinctive timecards: Uppagus's timecard, PeleYoetz's timecard, OdNahlawi's timecard

All three edited almost-daily to get to XC. Once they hit XC, both the frequency and number of edits declines:

  • Uppagus edits almost daily until 5/7 (1st 500 contribs); hits XC 5/7 ; stops daily editing 5/7, switches to a few days a week, then a few days a month (post-XC contribs)
  • PeleYoetz same: edits almost daily until 6/18 ; XC 6/17 ; stops daily editing 6/18
  • OdNahlawi same: edits almost daily until 8/8 ; XC 8/8 ; stops daily editing 8/8

All three make liberal use of vague stock edit summaries, e.g. "Added information", "Adding information", "Added info" (see the contribs lists linked above for examples).

PeleYoetz and OdNahlawi have edited hewiki, though Uppagus has not: Uppagus's xtools, PeleYoetz's xtools, OdNahlawi's xtools

Overlaps:

EIA for all three: . All three accounts' edits reflect a noticeable Israeli nationalist POV. Levivich (talk) 03:28, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  •  Additional information needed - The edit summary for the revert reasonably explains what happened. OdNahlawi was momentarily confused about which page they were reading. If there is additional evidence to suggest sockpuppetry, please present. Otherwise, there is no case to answer here. Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:32, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
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