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Fri July 19: Wikicurious in NYC, Editing Misplaced Pages for Beginners
| July 19: Wikicurious: Editing Misplaced Pages for Beginners @ Civic Hall | |
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 You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for the inaugural event of the beginner-focused Wikicurious series at Civic Hall! All are welcome, and newcomers and aspiring editors are especially encouraged to attend. Registration via Eventbrite is required for building entry, and is also encouraged on the event page on Meta. The Wikicurious series at Civic Hall is supported by Craig Newmark Philanthropies. Wikimedia NYC is an official affiliate and supported by the Wikimedia Foundation. All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. Meeting info:
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--Wikimedia New York City Team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:51, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Mfd/Template:user_Cabal
If the image is the problem, why delete the template? I could have just changed the image. Emdosis (talk) 02:08, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Emdosis: If you wish, you can easily create a new template with a different image, which won't be sullied by the previous image in the history. Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:12, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- If it's not too much to ask, could you send me the source code please? Emdosis (talk) 02:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm on my mobile now but I'll do it in the morning. Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:25, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Emdosis (talk) 02:53, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Emdosis: Done. Newyorkbrad (talk) 12:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Emdosis (talk) 02:53, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm on my mobile now but I'll do it in the morning. Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:25, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Newyorkbrad, given your admission that no speedy deletion criterion applied and given the policy-based opposition to the deletion, your early MfD closure was more suited to being a vote in favour of deletion. Your referral to the template being
sullied by the previous image in the history
above seems to confirm that the issue was the image alone and I invite you to revert your MfD closure. Sdrqaz (talk) 08:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)- @Sdrqaz: Ordinarily the absence of an applicable CSD category would indeed make speedying something inappropriate. But applying that general rule inflexibly in this context would mean that no userspace material could ever be deleted without a week's worth of discussion—no matter how (inadvertently or intentionally) offensive or disruptive it might be—if posted by a user with other significant contributions. That cannot be right. Thus, there cannot be a categorical rule in this area, and discretion needs to be exercised, which is what I did, carefully explaining my rationale. Putting it a different way: keeping or restoring this userbox would mean that editors are free to use it on their userpages, a prospect that is disturbing and disruptive. In any event, the userbox-creator is willing to re-create the userbox with a different image (see discussion above), which should resolve any dispute; and I hope no one feels compelled to seek reopening or restoration merely as a test-case or free-speech hypothetical. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 12:59, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Brad, while the out-of-process speedy deletion is an issue, I think that the larger issue is your supervote over policy-based objection in a discussion.I'm going to be frank here as you're doubtless aware of the policies and practices at play: as an administrator I recognise that my preferences do not override consensus and should not be imposed on others. Your position in the discussion is a noble one (even if I disagree with it), but it is a position that should have been expressed as a Community member instead of using your tools, especially given bedrock policy and the language used here (
sullied
) that suggests that you let your opinions on the matter cloud your administrative use. It isn't about free speech, but instead our responsibility to the Community as trusted members.I really hope that you can revert your close so that I do not have to go to DRV. Yours, Sdrqaz (talk) 13:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC)- Since this is not an urgent situation, I'm going to leave this thread alone for awhile before responding to see if anyone else has any comments. Newyorkbrad (talk) 13:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Sdrqaz: It's ok. My initial thought when I saw the image was, "I can't possibly use a KKK-looking image to depict an existent or even non-existent, cabal". But when I saw the W logo on the robes I thought: "Since the image is on the WikiCommons, has been there since 2008, and Wikimedia seems to be ok with it, then why should I be more prude (so to speak) then Misplaced Pages?" (it's not like I'm going to be putting it on any admin's user page). But I completely understand NewYorkBrad's reaction, and am ok with looking for another image. Emdosis (talk) 17:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Brad, while the out-of-process speedy deletion is an issue, I think that the larger issue is your supervote over policy-based objection in a discussion.I'm going to be frank here as you're doubtless aware of the policies and practices at play: as an administrator I recognise that my preferences do not override consensus and should not be imposed on others. Your position in the discussion is a noble one (even if I disagree with it), but it is a position that should have been expressed as a Community member instead of using your tools, especially given bedrock policy and the language used here (
- @Sdrqaz: Ordinarily the absence of an applicable CSD category would indeed make speedying something inappropriate. But applying that general rule inflexibly in this context would mean that no userspace material could ever be deleted without a week's worth of discussion—no matter how (inadvertently or intentionally) offensive or disruptive it might be—if posted by a user with other significant contributions. That cannot be right. Thus, there cannot be a categorical rule in this area, and discretion needs to be exercised, which is what I did, carefully explaining my rationale. Putting it a different way: keeping or restoring this userbox would mean that editors are free to use it on their userpages, a prospect that is disturbing and disruptive. In any event, the userbox-creator is willing to re-create the userbox with a different image (see discussion above), which should resolve any dispute; and I hope no one feels compelled to seek reopening or restoration merely as a test-case or free-speech hypothetical. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 12:59, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- If it's not too much to ask, could you send me the source code please? Emdosis (talk) 02:21, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
I don't see how there's really a middle ground on a "humorous" user box that conflates Wikipedians with the Klan. A userbox with that image in its history would never not be controversial. Creating it that way in the first place was a serious mistake; taking it to DRV would reflect poor judgement. Mackensen (talk) 14:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah. At worst, this looks like a great application of IAR. Ed 20:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with NYB's speedy deletion and explanation, with Mackensen that taking this to DRV would reflect poor judgment, with Ed that this was a good use of IAR, and with Emdosis that "it's ok". Given that NYB has specifically said recreation without that image is acceptable, I fail to see one single benefit to anyone to undo the close, and sincerely hope that Sdrqaz rethinks his intention to go to DRV. -Floquenbeam (talk) 22:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Sat August 24: Roosevelt Island Wiknic
| August 24: Wiknic @ Roosevelt Island | |
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 You are invited to the picnic anyone can edit on Roosevelt Island, at Southpoint Park. Following up on this month's Wikimania in Poland, this Wiknic will have as guest of honor User:DerHexer, the 2024 Wikimedia Laureate of the Year, marking his triumphant North American tour! Bring a picnic blanket and some potluck, as well as some sunscreen! We'll also provide a little something for everyone, but we encourage you to bring your own favorite dishes to share, especially for those food cultural topics you would like to improve on Misplaced Pages. We'll also do a portal thing for a bit with West Coast friends at the WikiLA ocean life edit-a-thon. All are welcome, new and experienced! Saturday, August 24, 2024 NYC Wiknic @ Roosevelt Island (RSVP on-wiki)
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--Wikimedia New York City Team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:43, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Sep 25: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election Meeting (plus Latin music event on Sep 21!)
| September 25: Annual Election & Members Meeting | |
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 You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our Annual Election & Members Meeting, with in-person at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, as well as an online-based participation option. The Members' Meeting is similar to other WikiWednesday meetups, except that its primary function is to elect a new Board of Directors. We will elect three board seats, half of the elected seats on the board. After being elected, those elected can potentially appoint more seats. We will also focus on the Wikimedia NYC Strategic Plan, our Financial Report, and Annual and Monthly event teams for the coming year. Election info:
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All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. P.S. Also upcoming just before our annual meeting is the Latin music edit-a-thon, Wikicurious: Editing to the Beat (RSVP at Eventbrite), on Saturday September 21! | |
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--Wikimedia New York City Team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:56, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Sep 21: Wikicurious for Latin Music: Editing to the Beat ♫
| Sat Sep 21: Wikicurious - Editing to the Beat ♫ @ Lehman College | |
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 You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for the "Editing to the Beat" event of the beginner-focused Wikicurious series at Lehman College. This is the second event of the series, following the inaugural event at Civic Hall in July. Led by a 9-person live band demonstrating Caribbean and Latin musical genres, we'll engage with efforts such as WikiProject Latin Music, and will encourage editing on both English and Spanish Misplaced Pages. All are welcome, and newcomers and aspiring editors are especially encouraged to attend. Registration via Eventbrite is required for building entry, and is also encouraged on the event page on Meta. The Wikicurious series is supported by Craig Newmark Philanthropies. Wikimedia NYC is an official affiliate and supported by the Wikimedia Foundation. Also supporting this event are Equis, The Celia Cruz Foundation, and the International Museum of Salsa. In association with WikiCari and AfroCrowd. All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. Meeting info:
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P.S. Upcoming WikiNYC meetups:
- Wed Sep 25: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election/Members Meeting 2024!
- Sat Oct 26: Wikidata Day 2024!
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--Wikimedia New York City Team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Barnstar of Good Humor |
| Congratulations: best joke of the day. Well done NYB. Drmies (talk) 16:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC) |
Oct 26: Wikidata Day NYC
| October 26: Wikidata Day in New York City | |
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 You are invited to Wikidata Day in New York City at Pratt Institute School of Information in Manhattan, in celebration of Wikidata's 12th birthday. This event, held by our chapter in collaboration with Pratt and Girls Who Code, will be our third annual celebration of Wikidata Day. It will feature spotlight sessions, lightning talks, and the customary Wiki-cake, while those unable to attend in person will be able to watch a livestream. All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct.
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--Wikimedia New York City Team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:08, 11 October 2024 (UTC)