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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Arabs was copied or moved into Arab identity with this edit on 10 December 2016. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Text and/or other creative content from this version of Arabs was copied or moved into Demographics of the Arab League with this edit on 21 December 2016. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Section sizes Section size for Arabs (49 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 45,365 45,365 Etymology 5,052 5,052 Origins 9,808 9,808 History 11,268 85,866 Antiquity 16,189 35,950 Classical antiquity 14,572 14,572 Late antiquity 5,189 5,189 Middle Ages 4,588 20,591 Arab empires 24 16,003 Rashidun era (632–661) 3,451 3,451 Umayyad era (661–750 and 756–1031) 2,832 2,832 Abbasid era (750–1258 and 1261–1517) 2,705 2,705 Fatimid era (909–1171) 3,170 3,170 Ottoman era (1517–1918) 3,821 3,821 Renaissance 8,636 8,636 Modern period 9,421 9,421 Identity 3,110 3,110 Subgroups 10,094 10,094 Geographic distribution 30 37,184 Arab homeland 876 876 Arab diaspora 2,575 36,278 Europe 9,030 9,030 Americas 12,661 12,661 Caucasus 2,552 2,552 Central, South, East and Southeast Asia 5,481 5,481 Sub-Saharan Africa 3,979 3,979 Religion 10,051 10,051 Culture 1,038 70,680 Language 3,007 3,007 Mythology 3,505 3,505 Literature 8,327 8,327 Cuisine 1,607 1,607 Art 8,555 8,555 Architecture 4,323 4,323 Music 5,907 5,907 Spirituality 4,512 4,512 Philosophy 2,678 2,678 Science 18,750 18,750 Theatre 2,854 2,854 Fashion 2,425 2,425 Wedding and marriage 3,192 3,192 Genetics 7,762 7,762 See also 129 129 References 17 11,007 Notes 47 47 Citations 49 49 Sources 10,894 10,894 Further reading 601 601 External links 667 667 Total 297,376 297,376

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Edit proposal

I would sincerely ask that you directly, clearly and unambiguously emphasize the Semitic origin in the first paragraph. Thanks. Bagyblazha (talk) 15:24, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

The style of your request suggests that it's not simply about adding information but about taking a contentious stand on the matter, which Misplaced Pages doesn't do. Largoplazo (talk) 12:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Excuse me, but what is disputed? In the article about Russians, it says that they are Slavic, Turks are Turkish, Spaniards are Romance... Bagyblazha (talk) 18:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Excuse me, but I didn't say anything is disputed. Largoplazo (talk) 23:48, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

For that matter, I just removed "Romance" from the first sentence of Spaniards, as "Romance" isn't normally used to characterize peoples. We don't even have an article on "Romance peoples", that link led to Romance languages. Largoplazo (talk) 23:53, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Lakhmid Kingdom map

This map is misleading as it draws the territorial area of the Lakhmids using the borders of modern political subdivisions. Somebody probably made it using mapchart.net or another similar utility. It should be deleted or replaced with something higher quality. Raccoon Enthusiast (talk) 16:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Wrong information

This is just generalizing on entire groups of people with different cultures and ancestries that they are all Arabs. This article like Persians is entirely misleading. There are Arabic speaking people in Bahrain of Iranian Ancestry and most Kuwaitis are Iranian of origin, further more Egyptians and North Africans in generally have completely different genetics (same with Morocans most of which are Amazigh) and history and dialects of Arabic influenced by their older languages. The ethnic Arabs are those with high level of J1 Haplogroup such as Yemen and Saudi, and that's it. Actual Arabs are a minority everywhere else. Mrox2 (talk) 16:33, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

You appear to be conflating ethnicity with haplogroups. Largoplazo (talk) 17:22, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

I understand the distinction you're drawing, but ethnicity is about more than just language. It's a complex combination of shared cultural practices, language, history, and sometimes genetic ancestry. My point is that labeling entire populations as "Arabs" based solely on the fact that they speak Arabic today ignores the diverse ethnic and cultural backgrounds of these groups.

For example, many people in Bahrain and Kuwait, despite speaking Arabic, retain distinct Persian cultural and ancestral ties—our cuisine, music, language, and traditions have been preserved over time. Similarly, North Africans, like the Amazigh, have their own rich history and culture, which predates the introduction of Arabic. These differences are often reflected in local dialects, influenced by older languages and cultures.

Haplogroups, while not the sole determinant of ethnicity, are helpful in understanding deep ancestral origins, especially when discussing the relatively small populations of ethnic Arabs (e.g., in Yemen and parts of Saudi Arabia) compared to the broader Arabic-speaking world.

According to Cambridge, Ethnicity is a noun that refers to a large group of people who have the same national, racial, or cultural origins, or the state of belonging to such a group - we share none of that with Syrians or Egyptians, we don't speak the same dialect, our culture is entirely different, and we never ever felt like we belong to such groups, they look nothing like us, have different dialects, have different cultures, and our history is entirely different.

Last but not least; I was brainwashed to identify as Arab as a child in school (how is that consensual?) and did so for some time, and then we got older and realize we're all not Arabs. So whatever you say or write, we will always remain as such. I am proud of being able to speak Arabic (Bahraini-which is heavily influenced by Persian), but that's were our similarities end, many words in our dialect are not even understood by Egyptians and co. I also speak English, and Persian, both Bushehri and Iranian/Tehrani,so what am I then?

Moreover, attributing the contributions of scholars like Khwarizmi and Razi to Arab culture is factually incorrect. Mrox2 (talk) 19:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Map

The map in the lede is a bit misleading. Rather than grading on amount of Arabs on each country, it should be done on the percentage of the population being Arab. Kowal2701 (talk) 12:43, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

The percentages are not mentioned in the article. M.Bitton (talk) 12:49, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Good point Kowal2701 (talk) 12:53, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Semitic language

Semitic is a proto-language or a family. The article should not reference a "Semitic language", because it is not an attested language. It is only known through historical reconstruction. 83.110.109.171 (talk) 09:24, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

"Semitic language" is the ordinary way to characterize a language as a member of the Semitic language family, in the same way that we say English is an Indo-European language, Malagasy is an Austronesian language, etc. Largoplazo (talk) 16:22, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 November 2024

It is requested that an edit be made to the extended-confirmed-protected article at Arabs. (edit · history · last · links · protection log) This template must be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y". The edit may be made by any extended confirmed user. Remember to change the |answered=no parameter to "yes" when the request has been accepted, rejected or on hold awaiting user input. This is so that inactive or completed requests don't needlessly fill up the edit requests category. You may also wish to use the {{EEp}} template in the response. To request that a page be protected or unprotected, make a protection request.

First sentence of fourth paragraph states 'during the middle ages arabs fostered a vast arab union'. This should be changed to something such as 'After the emergence of Islam in the 7th century an unprecedented conquest established a vast Arab empire'. The term 'arab union' is highly anachronistic and the accompanying description fails to capture the reality of this remarkable and violent (see: fostered) event. Mdmagnitogorsk (talk) 19:18, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

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