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A fact from this article appeared on Misplaced Pages's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 20, 2015.The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that some commentators credit Leelah Alcorn with inspiring "a flashpoint for transgender progress in 2014"?
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Sharon Coolidge (30 December 2014). "Transgender teen: 'My death needs to mean something'". The Cincinnati Enquirer. By Tuesday evening, Leelah's story had become a worldwide story - one of how transgender teens often feel alone and afraid. The hashtag #LeelahAlcorn was topping Twitter; news sites worldwide had picked up the story; and someone had even created a Misplaced Pages page for Alcorn.
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I think for respect to the mother and the family (ct. from the mother: "My sweet 16-year-old son, Joshua Ryan Alcorn" his original name should be shown at the beginning near the birth date and the other name (as "born as Joshua Ryan Alcorn"). Legally speaking he never changed his name on his documents with his parents consent and he was considered a boy until his death. The fact that someone doesn't like it doesn't change the reality and the original name should be there at the beginning of the page as it is with other categories of people who change names or have nicknames. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.39.220.187 (talk) 17:00, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
We don't do things "out of respect". The sources says that Leelah identified as female and that's what we go by. We're certainly not going to deadname her and use the wrong pronouns because her family couldn't accept her. That's for them to deal with. We only go by what the sources say. freshacconci (✉)18:00, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Well, her suicide note is referenced as a source, so I'm assuming that that would probably be source enough. Most sources would have her identifying as female, any that identify her as male would just most likely be considered less reputable. RaptorGirl97 (talk) 20:51, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
Firstly, I should like to know who the "we" is that you keep referring to. Presumably, you mean "I", rather than "we". Secondly, it's abundantly obvious that you don't do things out of "respect". How about doing things out of "fact" then? The fact is that his mother referred to him by his legally correct name and gender, and her statement should not be changed simply because people like you find it distasteful and opposed to the agenda you're trying to push. I suggest that the mother's censored/fabricated statement be restored to its original wording. 86.14.43.73 (talk) 11:02, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
A. How about you reply to the correct person next time B. By facts she was trans, take your bigotry elsewhere please. If you don't enjoy the reality that is trans people existing, may I suggest you seek therapy? RaptorGirl97 (talk) 11:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Also to add, it would seem the one with the agenda is you. Trans people exist and have existed, that isn't up for debate. So if you want to start using facts, anytime would actually be amazing! Until then maybe consider why you chose to respond with an IP address... that speaks volumes. Stand by what you say and take accountability for you antiquated beliefs instead of cowering behind anonymity. Do something of value with your life that isn't denigrating trans youth that lost their lives to suicide. Do better. RaptorGirl97 (talk) 11:35, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
I know this has been talked about before, but it appears that her deadname is not shown because she was never known by that name, however, this makes little sense and is not consistent with other Misplaced Pages articles. For example, Bill Clinton was born William Blythe III, although he was never known by this name nor did he ever call himself 'Blythe' as he assumed the surname Clinton as a baby, his birth name is still rightfully listed on his Misplaced Pages article. Therefore, I think her deadname should be mentioned, either in her infobox or in the early life passage. —Derpytoucan (talk) 18:07, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
The article at present seems to comply with MOS:GENDERID, Misplaced Pages's guideline on the subject. Do you think it fails to comply with the guideline or that there's an ambiguity here? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:51, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
It says that she was never known by her birth name, yet her birth name was a pretty notable part of the issue, especially since it is the name her parents used on the controversial media posts. That, plus it would be less confusing for readers to have a uniform standard for articles (even though it isn't necessary). Derpytoucan (talk) 19:32, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
@Derpytoucan: The uniform standard is the guideline linked above, as far as I can tell, which doesn't make any exceptions for cases where the deadname's widely discussed. In this case, given that this article complies with the guideline, it's probably unlikely that it'll be changed to not comply with he MoS. But you're welcome to begin a request for comment. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:04, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
There are currently no citations for the introduction and the first citation (on birth date) didn't help to cite the claim. I imagine the citing was better before this article got featured but it's currently a mess. I made an adjustment for now but more claims need citing and the article may have other incorrect citations. Traumnovelle (talk) 11:37, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
The redirect Josh Alcorn has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 May 5 § Josh Alcorn until a consensus is reached. Meters (talk) 03:26, 5 May 2023 (UTC)