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Thanks for the humor!

Dear Guy Macon: Your edits, as in Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 217#My favorite source , have shown traces of a sense of humor, which is disruptive of the serious, somber, and relentlessly grim mood that so many other good people in all walks of life have exhibited just before burning out entirely. Be advised that if you continue on this present course, you run the risk of enjoying yourself while at work on this project, and you may even have a similar effect on other editors. Please consider very carefully whether you want to be responsible for such consequences. Thank you. Yes, I know that was written 7 years ago, but that's too funny to go unrecognized upon discovery.

By the way, don't let the actions of one of the 851 admins and one of the 114,522 active users three years ago make you paranoid now. I am much to young (in WikiAge) to have seen you edit, but given your following you were a good one. .

—Daℤyzzos (✉️ • 📤) 21:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Come back

We miss you Gahex220 (talk) 19:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I have been thinking about this a lot, but writing the following caused me to come to a decision:

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I think that I should return to editing articles about alternate medicine. I think people are being misled and hurt and that I can help. Also, my health issues appear to have stabilized. So I am officially asking for help in overcoming the issues that caused me to mostly stop editing articles.

Here is some background for those who are unfamiliar with the situation. I may be convinced to change my mind later, but for now I do NOT wish to name names, provide diffs, or in any way reopen a dispute from years ago,

I also should mention that I am a high-functioning autistic. This is not in any way an excuse for any behavior, but it might help if anyone wishes to understand the way my mind words.

In 2021 I made a mistake. I took a position on gender pronouns based upon what I was taught in school -- a position that is now unpopular. I tried to maintain my wrong opinion while doing my level best to accommodate others and not cause offense, but it became clear that unless I bent the knee and pretended to agree with something I thought was wrong, the attacks would never stop.

Among all of my attackers, one single person approached me with the attitude of "I also think you are wrong, so let's discuss it and see if I can convince you or you can convince me." The result of that discussion was that I realized that I was the one who was wrong. Actually, factually wrong. What I had been taught about the history of gender pronouns was false. The singular they is far, far older than most people think.

That's when I discovered another nasty truth. No amount of saying "I was wrong" and no amount of apologizing or groveling will ever stop the attacks. Once you express a wrong opinion related to gender you are evil incarnate forever. All the hours you previously put in fighting for equal marriage rights do not matter. You expressed a wrong opinion, and so you are scum for eternity.

In the midst of this I was blocked for a short period by an admin who made several statements indicating that they have a personal animosity towards me. I pretty much withdrew from participating in creating the encyclopedia at that point.

I don't want to publicly criticize of even identify the admin, but if they simply agreed -- without any admission of fault -- to step away and let the other admins handle any bad behavior on my part, I would be willing to resume editing articles. Otherwise, no. It is my belief that I will do something wrong and instead of being asked to stop doing it I will be blocked indefinitely and thus no longer be able to update essays that are important to me such as WP:CANCER, WP:1AM, and WP:YWAB

If someone is willing to act as a mediator between us, I would welcome that. I will not, under any circumstances, directly interact with the admin.

Ping:EEng, Yngvadottir, Sluzzelin, Bastun, and DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord:

--Guy Macon Alternate Account (talk) 21:52, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Guy - great to hear you're doing better! I'd be willing to act as mediator, if you think it'd help. My email is open. Just to note, though, I'm travelling from tomorrow until Tuesday, and won't have proper access to my WP email until I'm back. Bastun 12:51, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey Guy. As I think I've mentioned before, I don't know the background to whatever it is that happened. But as I've also mentioned before, I'd really like to see you back happily editing. So I'll be watching here for anything I can do to help. Looks like Yngvadottir hasn't edited in 3 or 4 days, so he won't have seen recent posts here, but I'm sure I speak for them as well. EEng 07:17, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm nobody but so many people have left recently, it's sad... I wrote on my page a long time ago and it seems more and more true today:

"And I really hate it when good editors feel they have to leave...I mean, I can understand retiring, but I miss so many people who aren't around any more for one reason or another."

Stay well, I hope everything works out. - Shearonink (talk) 14:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Everybody: Guy, I really really want you to come back. Thanks for the pings from you and EEng. I had an accident and am stuck in the hospital. I have just got access to the net using my old laptop. I should not do any mental heavy lifting. I haven't looked up the names involved. I don't want to make anything worse—I didn't bust my head and I am not currently on any interestung drugs, but my mental fighting weight is v. low. So ... once I can get out of this place and be able to use my desktop comp and clear my head, I will have your back as far as I'm able. I remember the part of it where you understood and said you were sorry. And I wanted you to pass that RfA and still trust your judgement, and your integrity. But right now I can't rely on my own judgement, I'm sorry. :-( Yngvadottir (talk) 21:18, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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