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    Section sizes
    Section size for Feminist views on transgender topics (45 sections)
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    count
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    (Top) 4,527 4,527
    History 12 26,133
    1700s to early 1900s 5,699 5,699
    Second wave (1970s–1980s) 13,018 13,018
    Third wave (1990–2000s) 4,992 4,992
    Fourth wave (2010–present) 2,412 2,412
    General perspectives on transgender rights 9,617 9,617
    Particular topics 23 36,190
    Colonialism 2,690 2,690
    Legal codification of gender 2,162 2,162
    Gender-affirming surgery 6,134 6,134
    Pronouns 1,607 1,607
    Socialization and experience 9,306 9,306
    Transgender women in women's spaces and organizations 7,808 7,808
    Transfeminism 3,057 3,057
    Cyberfeminism and xenofeminism 3,403 3,403
    Gender-critical feminism and trans-exclusionary radical feminism 30,077 40,063
    Relations with conservatives 9,986 9,986
    By country or region 28 83,633
    International organisations 2,926 2,926
    Africa 439 439
    South America 22 5,860
    Argentina 5,838 5,838
    North America 23 18,673
    Canada 7,936 7,936
    United States 9,190 9,190
    Mexico 1,524 1,524
    Asia 13 3,644
    South Korea 3,631 3,631
    Europe 1,746 51,316
    Denmark 799 799
    France 3,313 3,313
    Germany 1,066 1,066
    Iceland 4,143 4,143
    Ireland 4,404 4,404
    Italy 995 995
    Norway 2,170 2,170
    Spain 7,358 7,358
    United Kingdom 25,322 25,322
    Oceania 747 747
    See also 474 474
    Notes 24 24
    References 3,838 3,838
    Further reading 824 824
    External links 484 484
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    Missing section on "First wave feminism"

    There is a gap between "early 1900s" and "Second wave (1970s–1980s)" that omits people like de Beauvoir. There should be a section on "First wave". I am not knowledgeable about it, but the gap is obvious. Zaslav (talk) 23:36, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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    Opening line

    Having read various parts of this article the opening line of "feminist views on transgender topics vary widely" seems to be providing WP: FALSEBALANCE to this article. This is because the main article seems to provide the viewpoint that for most countries the vast majority of feminists and feminist organisations seem to be very supportive of trans people and transgender rights. LunaHasArrived (talk) 15:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

    I don't agree. If someone said, "the income of Americans varies widely", I would take that as a true, and unsurprising statement. It just means some people are very poor and some are very rich. It doesn't say anything about income distribution. If they followed that up with, "the fifty richest Americans are as wealthy as the poorest 165 million", that wouldn't surprise me, either; income is not spread evenly among the populace. And neither are the opinions of feminists on trans topics. That said, if you find the opening line misleading (which I don't) and you wanted to add something like, "... but tends to be supportive", or "... but is supported by the majority", or "... but has overwhelming support", I would have no objection, as long as whatever you add is supported by a more detailed treatment in the body of the article, and is well sourced. Mathglot (talk) 05:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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