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Section sizes
Section size for Chernobyl disaster (65 sections)
Section name Byte
count
Section
total
(Top) 9,514 9,514
Accident sequence 25 50,281
Background 20 19,122
Reactor cooling after shutdown 5,676 5,676
Safety test 2,517 2,517
Test delay and shift change 3,852 3,852
Unexpected drop of the reactor power 4,184 4,184
Reactor conditions priming the accident 2,873 2,873
Accident 18 15,325
Test execution 1,801 1,801
Reactor shutdown and power excursion 6,042 6,042
Explosions 7,464 7,464
Possible causes for the second explosion 949 5,626
Fizzled nuclear explosion hypothesis 4,677 4,677
Immediate response 27 9,015
Fire containment 6,823 6,823
Radiation levels 2,165 2,165
Accident investigation 1,168 1,168
Crisis management 25 35,909
Evacuation 7,438 7,438
Official announcement 6,553 6,553
Core meltdown risk mitigation 434 11,924
Bubbler pools 8,396 8,396
Foundation protection measures 3,094 3,094
Site cleanup 21 6,877
Debris removal 2,919 2,919
Construction of the sarcophagus 2,187 2,187
Investigations of the reactor condition 1,750 1,750
Area cleanup 3,092 3,092
Site remediation 1,980 31,756
No. 4 reactor confinement 5,089 5,089
Waste management 2,854 7,709
Fuel-containing materials 4,855 4,855
Exclusion zone 5,367 8,845
Forest fire concerns 3,478 3,478
Recovery projects 3,912 3,912
Tourism 4,221 4,221
Long-term effects 22 85,110
Release and spread of radioactive materials 10,834 17,328
Relative isotopic abundances 6,494 6,494
Environmental impact 124 22,675
Water bodies 4,536 4,536
Flora, fauna, and funga 5,656 5,656
Human food chain 7,158 7,158
Precipitation on distant high ground 5,201 5,201
Human impact 514 39,280
Acute radiation effects and immediate aftermath 2,495 2,495
Long-term impact 1,988 1,988
Effects of main harmful radionuclides 3,678 3,678
Disputed investigation 2,246 2,246
Withdrawn investigation 2,624 2,624
Abortions 6,935 6,935
Cancer assessments 12,752 12,752
Other disorders 2,488 2,488
Long-term radiation deaths 3,560 3,560
Socio-economic impact 5,805 5,805
Significance 20 12,595
Nuclear debate 8,087 8,087
In popular culture 4,488 4,488
See also 526 526
Notes 31 31
References 30 239
Works cited 209 209
Further reading 79 79
External links 3,237 3,237
Total 229,277 229,277


Grammar

The fist sentence should read: "At the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant in the city of Pripyat, located in the then Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic of the Soviet Union (USSR)" instead of: "at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant in the city of Pripyat, then located in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic of the Soviet Union (USSR)". It did not physically move.

The section titled "Social Economic Effects" should be renamed to "socioeconomic effects" to reflect proper terminology.

minor but this is the English language page "Numerous structural and construction quality issues, as well as deviations from the original plant design, had been known to KGB since at least 1973 and passed on to the Central Committee, which take no action and classified the information." should be "been known to the KGB... which took no action"

Containing fire

The timeline says all fires were contained at 6:35 - this should probably mention "fires around the power plant": The core continued to burn days after, but there is no description what measures really lead to containing the fire inside the reactor. It just says "It is now known that virtually none of the neutron absorbers reached the core." It is not clear what really stopped the fire.

decay heat was the "fire" and it "stopped" being "red hot" like decay heat always does. With time.

Grammar edit request

There's a rather extended high-comma-count "sentence" with what looks to be a misspelling.

The expected highest body activity was in the first few years, were the unabated ingestion of local food, primarily milk consumption, resulted in the transfer of activity from soil to body, after the dissolution of the USSR, the now reduced scale initiative to monitor the human body activity in these regions of Ukraine, recorded a small and gradual half-decadal-long rise, in internal committed dose, before returning to the previous trend of observing ever lower body counts each year.

minimal-change improvement:

The expected highest body activity was in the first few years, where the unabated ingestion of local food (primarily milk) resulted in the transfer of activity from soil to body. After the dissolution of the USSR, the now reduced scale initiative to monitor the human body activity in these regions of Ukraine recorded a small and gradual half-decadal-long rise in internal committed dose before returning to the previous trend of observing ever lower body counts each year.

length of lead

This has come up before, see..

https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Chernobyl_disaster/Archive_13#Lead_too_long

Dougsim

Grammar

The first sentence of the sub-section "Fuel-containing materials" has a grammatical error. The first sentence reads "About 95% of the fuel in reactor No. 4 at the time of the accident." This is obviously not a complete sentence. It is unclear to me what the original literary intent of this clause was. This half-sentence could be removed without impeding the reader's understanding of the following text. CALPHone (talk) 19:33, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

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Under the "In popular culture" section, it says THQ produced STALKER, this is not true GSC Gameworld, a Ukrainian video games developer, produced it. Wikipedianikolas (talk) 16:31, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done The article doesn't say THQ produced the game, it says it released it, which according to the game's article would appear to be true. With that said, I'm of the opinion that a video game's developer is usually far more responsible for it than its publisher, so I added a few words that include GSC's role. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 20:07, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Getting this to a Good Article state

After few years, I have come back to the article and made a variety of significant edits, mainly simplifying the overall layout. My goal would be to get this article to a state where it can be nominated to a Good Article and a Featured Article - seems worthwhile given the importance of the event as well as this article being in the Top 100 visited articles.

I'm not sure how much time I can invest into this of course, but seeing a variety of activity from others recently inspired me and I thought I'd start a collaborative checklist below. Feel free to edit it further, or cross out things that are done!

  • Update the Background with key information about RBMK and the ChNPP.
  • Update the Impact section with information about impact on Soviet Union (some of it may be moved from the Socio-economic impact section?)
  • Reconcile the Long-term effects section with the Effects of the Chernobyl disaster article. There is significant overlap but also differences, and I believe the section would benefit from trimming down details.
    • Pet peeve: The table in Release and spread of radioactive materials; moreover it omits many countries, the primary source of the secondary source cited has more lines, but I think a map would be better. The popular one seems copyrighted and I'm not sure if it'd fall under a non-free use exception, I tried to ask the EC for permission... but actually we'd have to get permission also from Ukrainian and Russian governments, seems possible but a tall order.
  • Revisit each remaining section with further-information or main-article link and make sure that each such section only provides key summary in the main article and details are moved to the specialized article.

Pasky (talk) 21:09, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

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