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These two terms GW and CC are not identical. The ongoing debate is whether GW causes CC, or whether GW is a part of CC that causes other parts of CC (see diagram). The terms are not interchangeable, even though there has been confusion about them--confusion that we should not prolong.
I've just deleted from the terminology section, the unsourced, antiquated and scientifically incorrect statement that "In this sense, the term climate change has become synonymous with anthropogenic global warming." The terms are not synonymous. It is simply wrong to say CC is "commonly known as" or "also known as" GW. —RCraig09 (talk) 19:19, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
The source indicates "global warming" is synonymous in popular usage.
Be careful you're not here to WP:rightgreatwrongs. It's not our place here to end confusion, it's our place to summarize the reliable sources, even if that may prolong existing confusion. Crescent77 (talk) 19:41, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
The NASA source says that some scientific sources have used GW, so it's not merely "popular". I'm not trying to right great wrongs, but conform to how science, and Misplaced Pages's own CC article, and increasingly the public, are using CC rather than GW (see second chart). —RCraig09 (talk) 19:49, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
Became popular in 1988. Do you have a source saying it is no longer popular? We could add that to address the history of the term. Crescent77 (talk) 19:54, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
(after edit conflict) A statement about a term used 35 years ago is stale. The 2008 NASA source explains why GW was an undesirable term, even then in 2008. Google search hits (right) support this recognition. The burden is on the editor who wants to include an assertion, not on other editors to prove what is "not" popular any more. —RCraig09 (talk) 20:02, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
No, if a source states it can be included in WP. Your claims of "stale" are not relevant. Notably, the material is 15 years old, you claims of 35 are a gross misrepresentation of the material. Crescent77 (talk) 20:09, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
If a medieval source says the earth is flat, can we use in Misplaced Pages? Obviously not.
Obviously. The 2008 article indicated it became popular in 1988, nowhere did it say it fell out of popularity. Do you have a source that does?
If a mediaval source indicated the earth is flat, we would (and have) included in WP. We also include more modern sources refuting it. Crescent77 (talk) 20:20, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
If a usage is stale, it must be placed in time-context, such as by using past tense. It does not have to be disproven with a later source given the difficulty of proving a negative. —RCraig09 (talk) 20:32, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
Once again, though reasonable, your assertions of "stale" have no weight in WP.
As stated below: "As I have stated multiple times, the 2008 NASA source itself contradicts the (problematic) use of GW even in a scientific source (Union of Concerned Scientists), and the Google Trends chart as a primary source dramatically proves the waning "popular"ity of GW." 20:32, 9 Sept . . . I'm OK with wording now, since it places the 1988 usage in context. Obviously stale circumstances must be placed in context, in Misplaced Pages. —RCraig09 (talk) 20:52, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
Sounds like we're good with where this articlr currently stands, but for the sake of the future (as we've discussed this very issue before, and I'm sure we will again):
Just because you state it, doesn't make it true. If you restate what you already stated, that doesn't give it any more weight
Claiming you have a "primary source" indicating as much also doesn't make it true, you need to provide the source.
I moved the wrong content from the first sentence, and put it in context later in the paragraph. I didn't "remove" it. —RCraig09 (talk) 20:09, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
As I have stated multiple times, the 2008 NASA source itself contradicts the (problematic) use of GW even in a scientific source (Union of Concerned Scientists), and the Google Trends chart as a primary source dramatically proves the waning "popular"ity of GW. —RCraig09 (talk) 20:32, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
The NASA source clearly distinguishes GW and CC. It's problematic to interchange or confuse usage of two terms that do not mean the same thing, or imply they mean the same thing. —RCraig09 (talk) 20:59, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
I assume you refer to Google Trends. Since the article now states GW was popular in 1988, but (rightfully) doesn't try to imply it's still popular, it's not necessary to prove it's no longer popular (popular being an ambiguous term: does it mean "non-scientific" or does it mean "used by a lot of people"). I think the article text is acceptable now, unless there are new developments. —RCraig09 (talk) 21:04, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
New Graph from NOAA
I'm thinking of introducing an easy to read graph from a NOAANovember 23 article with some background from same.
We have much stuff but nothing that gives such a clear long term (500 million year) illustration.
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