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The result was: promoted by Sohom Datta talk 11:05, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

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Overall: Prose was checked for copyright violations; no issues arose. A number of references were spot-checked for verification; no issues arose. All three hooks are verified, but I strongly prefer and recommend ALT2. Yue🌙 17:48, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Article is currently too focused on Evan Vucci's photographs

The lead and first sentence of the article is currently singularly focused on Associated Press photographer Evan Vucci:

Evan Vucci, an American photojournalist, captured a series of photographs of...

However there were several photographers present who all took various photos of the shooting and the raised fist. All of their output was shared in the aftermath and analyzed as iconic photography of the moment.

New York Times: The still images of the assassination attempt — by Doug Mills of The New York Times, and by photographers from The Associated Press and Reuters — tell another story.
Time: Various iterations of these images, taken by several photojournalists, continue to be shared. One of those photographs, taken by Associated Press photojournalist Evan Vucci, was chosen to appear on the cover of TIME.

Photographers there included, at least: Brendan McDermid - Reuters, Gene J. Puskar - AP, Evan Vucci - AP, Doug Mills - NYT, Anna Moneymaker - Getty

Now, perhaps that particular best Vucci photograph has become the subject of the article. In that case the article should be re-titled to Donald Trump raised-fist photograph, singular, or to the actual title that the author has assigned to that particular work.

But as the current title is "photographs", plural, the other photographers and raised-fist photographs should be included in the article per their similar analysis in reliable third-party sources.

Perhaps too the article should be extended past the "raised fist" photos to include the other big ones from that day. Namely, the photograph of the speeding bullet by Mills and the photo of him on the floor by Moneymaker. Something like Photographs of the Donald Trump assassination attempt.

Axios: After the Trump rally shooting, three images stood out immediately. They've come to be known in newsrooms as the "Evan photo" by AP's Evan Vucci, the "Anna photo" by Getty's Anna Moneymaker, and "the bullet photo" by the New York Times' Doug Mills.

PK-WIKI (talk) 07:46, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Any higher resolution image?

For a photot thats as the article lead reports (and i agree), will likely become one of the most iconic photos of the whole decade (they say era but I'll be more specific), its a shame how low the resolution is. Is there any higher replacement available? I'm not that confident about whats copyrighted and whats not so I'll only go looking if no one else replies to this in like 2 months or so. AssanEcho (talk) 21:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Because of WP:NFI guidelines, that's really the highest resolution we're allowed to legally have. EF 21:29, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply. Are there really no non copyrighted alternatives taken by other photographers? I'll look myself in the meantime while I wait for your response but if there isn't, soory for taking up your time with this question. AssanEcho (talk) 03:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
They wouldn't be this specific image, which is the subject of this article. —Cryptic 01:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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