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Question About Formal Tone and AI Concerns

Hi Daniel,

I just wanted to ask, does using a formal tone in my responses mean I'm using AI? I’ve been trying to keep my responses clear and respectful, but I didn’t realize that could be seen as AI-generated.

Is it a problem to write in a more formal style here, or does that automatically raise concerns about using AI? I'm just trying to understand what's expected.

Thanks for your input! JESUS (talk) 20:39, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Two (out of two I checked) of your posts came up as 90% AI-written according to the AI detector I used (which is falliable, but that's such a coincidence). Further, the subheadings that you used were distinctive of AI-generated messages. I still believe you were using AI to generate those two messages. (By contrast, this message registers 0%.) Daniel (talk) 22:22, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Also, this. Daniel (talk) 22:23, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

What's the current guidance on blocking AI trolling, which this clearly is? BusterD (talk) 23:04, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

I don't feel good about feeding back the "tells" either ("subheadings") BusterD (talk) 23:06, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

There's no automatic prohibition in project-space, so it needs to be judged through the lens of general disruption. The use of subheadings is both a tell but also part of the disruptive nature of LLM-generated projectspace postings, so I don't think it's fair to say "you're being disruptive" but not explain how it's disruptive. Daniel (talk) 00:18, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

In response to your fairness objection, I think it's wrong to knowingly assist in calibration of such models. We don't feed trolls, we shouldn't tutor AIs. BusterD (talk) 00:49, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

AFDs

Hello, Daniel,

I know you needed to take a break from admin responsibilities and I probably feel like that every week! But it's great to see you back, helping out in AFDLand. You've been missed in our regular rotations of AFD closers. Glad to have you back! Liz 06:33, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Liz! Yesterday and today have been reasonably quiet for me so thought I'd jump in and help out. Life gets busy again tomorrow for a few weeks but I'll do whatever I can to help! Cheers, Daniel (talk) 06:42, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Hougang knife attack AfD

Hello, I wanted to ask about the close at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Hougang knife attack. You found that the consensus of the !voters was to merge the article, but none of the !voters supported a merge. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 23:35, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi Thebiguglyalien, that seems odd — I agree, it should definitely be "redirect" rather than "merge". Fortunately in this situation a redirect is simply a merge with no content copied, so no really big changes. I'll go and update the close and the paperwork accordingly. Thanks for the heads-up, Daniel (talk) 08:59, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

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Jennifer Parlevliet DRV

My comment wasn't intended as opposing a restoration to draft, so much as letting The-Pope know 1) that they wouldn't be missing anything if they started working on a new draft without waiting for the old one, and 2) that if they did work from the old one, that the misleading statements in it needed fixing. —Cryptic 23:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Ah, gotcha — I had it more as a statement of opposition rather than a comment recommending that they start fresh. I'll flick them a message directly and tweak my close so as to not misrepresent you by interpretation. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 23:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC)