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Hi folks. Can someone add this photo to the article which is in the Hebrew language article(https://he.wikipedia.org/%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A8_%D7%99%D7%94%D7%95%D7%93%D7%99_%D7%91%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%90%D7%9C)?:

https://he.wikipedia.org/%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A8_%D7%99%D7%94%D7%95%D7%93%D7%99_%D7%91%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%90%D7%9C#/media/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:Shfaramsqr.jpg Thanks.DivineReality (talk) 04:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

King David Hotel bombing

Is there any reason why this terrorist bombing isn't mentioned in the article? TarnishedPath 09:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

It is my understanding from the introduction of this article that it concerns religious-motivated terrorism,and the bombing of the King David Hotel is more of a nationalist character than a religious one. עמית לונן (talk) 19:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

The articles name is "Jewish extremist terrorism" and the lead states "Jewish extremist terrorism is terrorism, including religious terrorism, committed by extremists within Judaism". The lead only states that religious terrorism is included, not that other forms of terrorism are excluded. TarnishedPath 23:31, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

That what appears from the categories and templates in which this article is included.

A separate article concerning the more national or ethnic character of Jewish political violence/terrorism is in existence,in which the incident is addressed.

עמית לונן (talk) 11:27, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that article out to me. TarnishedPath 23:07, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Most welcome עמית לונן (talk) 23:12, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 7 January 2025

It has been proposed in this section that Jewish extremist terrorism be renamed and moved to Jewish terrorism.

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Jewish extremist terrorism → Jewish terrorism – This current page title is at odds with the literature on the subject, which in no uncertain terms and without caveats uses the phrase "Jewish terrorism". This is not a controversial or even contested phrase; far from it, it is the only phrase with substantial usage on the subject – see Ngrams and also the wide array of scholarly literature on the topic - most of the titles of which speak for themselves. The term is used both as an academic term in the context of history, and as a very present-day term to refer to certain groups within modern Jewish society, as exemplified by the warning about Jewish terrorism issued in August 2024 by the Israeli intelligence chief. So this language is neither novel, nor non-current. More broadly, terrorism is extremism by default, so the insertion of "extremist" here (by wiki community invention and intervention) is grossly redundant and tautologous – hence why it finds so little currency among subject-matter experts. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Leaning support: We seem to have Christian terrorism and Hindu terrorism and Islamic terrorism as article titles, but this one has "extremist" inserted into it for no clear reason that I can see. The suggested title is more WP:CONCISE and WP:CONSISTENT. As far as I can guess, the extra word is just unnecessary WP:EDITORIALIZING. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Perhaps because "Jewish", unlike Christian, Hindu and Islamic is also an ethnic term. No Tamil terrorism and Basque terrorism, Uyghur terrorism are redirects. Not saying our current structure or naming makes sense, but there is at least a prima facie reason for treating "Jewish" differently from other religous terms. Srnec (talk) 21:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
So yes, this has been pointed out before, but it isn't a reason to ignore the sourcing on the subject and come up with original, unconcise terminology. To look at it from the opposite direction, there is no Tamil, Basque or Uyghur religion, and those identities aren't religion-based, so there is also a reason for different treatment here from these other terms. Iskandar323 (talk) 03:52, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Comment I’ve generally felt that Islamic terrorism as an article title isn’t right, but I would note that this article links to Jewish fundamentalism when describing Jewish extremism. This isn’t right, as this is simply a religious movement (fundamentalism isn’t the same thing as extremism) and many acts which have been described as Jewish terrorism were committed by secular nationalist groups, for example.

Rafts of Calm (talk) 20:41, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Move. "Extremist" is not a precisely defined term. Either all terrorism is extremist, or there is terrorism that is not extremist but we would want to include it anyway. The terrorism is what defines it. Zero 05:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Support. Succinct, we have Christian terrorism as an article. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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