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Greetings.

Your additions to the Exodus have been appreciated, but please consider doing them all in one go. It is difficult to impossible to analyze your work if it is done in hundreds of small bits. Thanatosimii 22:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I second that, stumbling upon your long list of edits to Druze. The edits are good, but if you want to check them, you should rather use the 'show preview' button at below the edit box. That will take you to a preview of how the article will look, including your edit, and at the bottom of that preview page, you will again find an edit box where you can make new adjustments, which of course you can then preview again etc. etc. And by the way, you seem to be rather active, so you might consider getting yourself a Username. Doing so not necessarily exposes your identity, but it makes you more recognizable. Classical geographer 20:18, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

palestine

I think you should go to the article about palestine and put references when needed. see the discussion page for more details Histolo2 21:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Passover

I'm not really sure why you deleted the introductory to passover. I have reverted the edit. If you have any questions/comments, please state them on my talk page. Thanks. Wikipedian64 22:14, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I didnt delete it. The Hebrew terms need to be wikified. The other information is repeated. I'll try reword the text for easier reading. --70.171.38.69 22:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Original research

Hello, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! We welcome and appreciate your contributions , but we regretfully cannot accept original research. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thanks for your efforts, and happy editing! El_C 18:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. That is not the sequence sanctioned by the Israeli government (I have an IDF-published copy in my hand right now). Please cease from adding fabrications to Misplaced Pages or the block will become much length. Thanks in advance. El_C 18:08, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Its not original research. The Jerusalem Codex (כתר ירושלים) is the text that the Kneset uses, when consulting Rabbinic Responsa for researching for legislation. Unfortunately, Im having difficulty relocating the source of this information, so I'll leave it out until I can properly cite it. --70.171.38.69 18:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

That is not the conventional order. Simply restoring it without comment was disruptive and led me to believe you are uncommunicative. El_C 19:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

No one has been more "uncommunicative" than you. Your abuse of block WITHOUT WARNING is the problem to begin with. Had you called my attention to the need for citation regarding Israeli use, I would have happily complied. --70.171.38.69 20:50, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with Israeli use: you are the one who said the sequence is sanctioned by the Israeli govt., but failed to provide a concrete citation. I can cite the sequence in Encyclopedia Britannica or the Jewish Virtual Library , etc., just the same. El_C 21:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

PS, I strongly suspect your hostility is politically motivated. --70.171.38.69 18:37, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

And this suspicions is based on what exactly? Why would I care one way or the other? El_C 19:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

And dont "welcome" me. I've been a regular Misplaced Pages editor for years now. --70.171.38.69 18:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I did not welcome you: that automatic text is part of {{nor}} which I substituted. El_C 19:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

If you continue to harass me, Ill lodge an official complaint. --70.171.38.69 18:39, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I have not harrassed you. If you continue to insert false information into Misplaced Pages articles, I will, however, restrict your ability to edit. El_C 19:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

THAT LAST COMMENT IS INDEED UNPROVOKED HARASSMENT! AND ABUSE OF POWER! --70.171.38.69 20:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Please try to exercize retsraint. You cannot expect to pass on that sequence as mainstream, overwriting the order accepted seemingly everywhere else. All without a single source cited and quoted. That does not appear to be intellectually honest. El_C 20:59, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

As should you exercise restraint. Your lack of restraint (and customary etiquette) started this problem in the first place. --70.171.38.69 21:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I do not see how I failed to exercize restraint. It looked like OR or even vandalism and no response was provided. El_C 21:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

70.171.38.69 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

User:El C unjustly blocked me.

IP address: 70.171.38.69 Blocking admin: El C.

I consider the block by El-C an abuse of power, and a form of harassment.

Ive been a regular Misplaced Pages editor for years now (under a username, which I now dont wish to disclose for fear of future abuse).

There was no warning. There was no customary avenues of dispute, such as the addition of "citation needed" template, or even moving the disputed statement from the Article to the Talk for discussion.

I have no problem removing the disputed information until I can reference it properly. The problem was, the block was sudden and without warning, leaving me with no recourse. I cant even add a message to El C's user page to discuss this issue with him.

Decline reason:

As a result of your creation of a second account to avoid the block on this one, I have extended the block on this IP to a week. If you are really an experienced user, then you should seriously know better.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:05, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

A succession of warnings is not a requierment. You reinsreted the edit without comment or edit summary. An editor who has been here for years, as you claim, should know better. El_C 19:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

How would I know you are an administrator? As far as I knew, you are some user who was vandalizing the Article - without comment or edit summary!

As is customary, you must explain your disputes in Talk, like all editors do.

As an administrator, blocking editors gratuitously and without any warning, is a clear abuse of power. --70.171.38.69 20:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

The onus is on you to explain why you overwrote the mainstream sequence with an uncited one, then reinserted it without comment. El_C 20:59, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Fine. BUT YOU BLOCKED ME BEFORE I COULD COMMENT! --70.171.38.69 21:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

And in any case, the sequence itself the authoritative sequence as clearly cited: from the Aleppo Codex, which is the Rabbinic standard Tanakh. It and its derivitive the Jerusalem Codex is the Tanakh that Israeli scholars consult, especially thru the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, a fact that I am also happy to cite ASAP. --70.171.38.69 21:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Where is the citation that yours is the authoritative sequence? It clearly does not appear mainstream, so I'm quite puzzled. El_C 21:25, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Also, creating other accounts (such as Uuy) while you are blocked is a bad idea, no matter how unjust you think the block is. Veinor 21:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I absolutely did not try to open a new account. That is a false accusation. The block is only for 24h, and as far as serving as an editor, I can live with the inconvenience. I have no need to create a new account. My concern is, your abusiveness preemption needlessly damages the reputations of sincere editors. --70.171.38.69 21:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Then explain this. Veinor 21:14, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

This text is a plagiarism added by someone else:

This IP User talk:70.171.38.69 block is an abuse of power, however, in order to not disclose my username I registered a new one. I would like to not be known, seeing as this administrator abused power. --Uuy 20:58, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

My origininal text, the one that I myself wrote, is:

Ive been a regular Misplaced Pages editor for years now (under a username, which I now dont wish to disclose for fear of future abuse). See History: 19:01, 21 May 2007 ].

No doubt this sockpuppet that said comment this in my name is User:El C or one of his supporters. Speaking in the name of another Misplaced Pages editor violates plagiarism laws and etiquette.

It appears User:El C is guilty of AN EGREGIOUS ABUSE BY AN ADMINISTRATOR. --70.171.38.69 21:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

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