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Selection as Alabama coach still a rumor
The article has been prematurely edited to show Rich Rodruiguez as Alabama's coach. While it pretends to include a "reference," the linked article is just a published rumor, and not even from a well-known source. No official statement has been made by either school, and no public knowledge of a signed contract exists. I am reverting the article, and it should continue to say WVU until any changes are TRULY announced at 3:00 P.M. today. (Besides, the changes made weren't even well-done) Aerodave 01:13, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Not a rumor any more . I 100% agree that rumors are bad ... and the article should not say he is the "current" Bama HC since he obviously is not ... but this looks like a legitimate media source. BigDT 02:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
"two sources close to the search" sounds like it's still a rumor to me. Note that the Birmingham News has been wrong about basically everything they've printed (Spurrier rumors, etc) since thanksgiving. --68.84.102.249 03:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- At least one other source - - has picked up on the report. I don't know ... I'm inclined to believe a mainstream media report. If it were a blog ... ok ... dismiss it. Still, though ... I remember in 2000 when Beamer to UNC was a done deal and all of the media were reporting it. We all know how that worked out.
If any established user changes it back, I won't revert it... but I'm inclined to leave it as is unless something refuting the report comes out. BigDT 04:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)- An article in the Charleston Gazette disputes the report above. Also, given that no contract has been signed, and the deal has not been publicly confirmed by either Rich Rodriguez or the Alabama athletic department, I think it's premature to state as a matter of fact that he's the new Alabama coach, even if it may happen soon.--MogWV 04:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- ESPN SportsCenter just reported RichRod to Bama as fact, saying he has an agreement in principle to the deal. ESPN is about as reliable as it gets. BigDT 04:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Looks like the last article in the Gazette was taken down and replaced with this one confirming the agreement in principle.--MogWV 04:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- ESPN SportsCenter just reported RichRod to Bama as fact, saying he has an agreement in principle to the deal. ESPN is about as reliable as it gets. BigDT 04:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- An article in the Charleston Gazette disputes the report above. Also, given that no contract has been signed, and the deal has not been publicly confirmed by either Rich Rodriguez or the Alabama athletic department, I think it's premature to state as a matter of fact that he's the new Alabama coach, even if it may happen soon.--MogWV 04:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Well, no matter how reputable the sources, there's no dispute that it's all still pending. Until WVU announces he's out, and until UA announces that he is officially the coach, it is unencyclopedic to report it as fact. Since a contract has not yet been signed he is NOT, in fact, the Tide's coach yet. To say he is the coach when the reports only say he will accept the position is obviously incorrect.
- A section of this article that says that the situation is pending, that an offer has been made would be appropriate, and could be maintained as part of the biographical history no matter the outcome. But if it's still pending, and still speculation, it should be treated as such. Aerodave 04:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, ESPN has now reported on SportsCenter multiple times that RR is going to Alabama and that the paperwork is just a formality. However, the WV Gazette - http://www.wvgazette.com/section/103/200612081 - quotes RichRod as saying that he has made no decision and that the ESPN report was fiction ... so, no, it wasn't speculation - it was the best information we had at the time. However, now that RichRod has said it was a false report, I agree, leave it off. BigDT 15:08, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
...just waiting for UA or WVU to issue an official press statement. TronNDoE 17:55, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- ESPN radio said that he is considering a counter-offer. Maybe WVU is getting Beamered? BigDT 19:03, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Alabama papers report that he has. West Virginia papers reports that he hasn't. You have a classic conflict in sources. --TheFarix (Talk) 19:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah ... I'm inclined to believe the WVU version at the moment simply because (1) they are more recent and (2) they actually quote RichRod rather than "sources". At any rate, it's all going to be over with very soon so I suggest that we leave the article as is for now. There is a good version that has everything changed to Bama that we can instantly revert to should something firm come out. BigDT 19:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- ESPN radio now reporting he's officially staying. Sorry Bama. You got Beamered. BigDT 20:13, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah ... I'm inclined to believe the WVU version at the moment simply because (1) they are more recent and (2) they actually quote RichRod rather than "sources". At any rate, it's all going to be over with very soon so I suggest that we leave the article as is for now. There is a good version that has everything changed to Bama that we can instantly revert to should something firm come out. BigDT 19:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, he's staying.
The idea that he had agreed to the Alabama job in principle has not been proven, and was denied by RichRod himself. I'm removing that section, as it infers he reneged on a deal.
Deleting comments from the talk page
The user that blanked this Talk page shouldn't have. I'm not saying this section shouldn't one day be removed. But while the Alabama drama is still fresh news, it's important to keep a record of this discussion. At the very least, people will wonder why the article has restricted editing, and this discussion will help. Aerodave 23:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, it's not acceptable to remove comments form article talk pages under any circumstances unless it is to remove personal attacks, archive old comments on the talk page, or the commenter removes his own comments to save face. --TheFarix (Talk) 00:15, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
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