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Well. This has certainly been a pleasure.

It's nice to know that you don't all hate me with a burning passion anymore. And that perhaps I could talk to you directly.

No offense to Two-Sixteen, but I don't like talking through a mediator. Something about that seems shifty.

Anyway, I'm not going to haul off and say something to make myself look like more of an ass/moron/maladjusted jerkwad. I'll let you say something first.

~ Flameviper

Welcome back

Welcome back Flame. I hope this experience is better. Will you repudiate your past actions and promise to comply with the policies and guidelines of Misplaced Pages? If so, I am happy to assist you in any way possible. JodyB _talk 13:54, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

It means to refuse to have anything to do with the conduct that was a problem before. JodyB _talk 17:22, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Welcome

I did not know what this means, so to any readers like me, wikt:repudiate.

Not sure how the unblock will turn out, however, if it is undone; if you have any questions I will always be contactable via email and talk. I have some experience with dispute resolution should you ever have need of it. Best of luck with the project. With warm regards, Navou 17:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Unblock

I have unblocked you. Welcome back to Misplaced Pages.

This is conditional on a couple of things. We are putting you on community-enforced personal attack parole. If you make a personal attack, you may be blocked by any administrator for up to a week. After three such blocks, the indefinite block comes back. User:Ryan Postlethwaite and I will monitor your edits closely. We will not only watch you, but we will watch out so that you do not get trolled by those wishing you to be reblocked, by those wishing to provoke you into flaring up again.

However, we are not omnipotent, and can't be there all the time, and we can't make your edits for you. If you are going to avoid further blocks and become a long-term productive contributor, you will have to help yourself. If you find yourself getting angry in a dispute, stop. Don't edit Misplaced Pages. Take a walk around the block. Think about things. I do this all the time. When you come back, don't talk about the people involved at all. Just comment on the content. You can say that articles are not very good, but you can't say something equivalent about a person. Hopefully you will consent to the parole.

Good luck. Cheers, Moreschi 17:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Makes perfect sense. I'm going to go ahead and use my freedom towards something useful. ~ Flameviper 19:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back Flameviper, please take Moreschi's advice and edit constructively. If you need any help, we will be more than happy to give you advice, just come over to our talk page. Best, Ryan Postlethwaite 19:4 6, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm attempting to write an article on plant physiology. Apparently, you have to read the textbook before you write articles from it. This is going to take much longer than expected... ~ Flameviper 19:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Undeleted most of them, though for some I was not willing to overturn MfD decisions. The encyclopedic ones probably should not have been deleted in the first place.

Good luck with the plant physiology. Oh, and I almost forgot: no socks, either :) Cheers, Moreschi 20:00, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I have no socks... the "sock" page was pretty much exposing my previous accounts/names... ~ Flameviper 20:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

• Welcome back Flameviper. --MichaelLinnear 23:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

your plant science experiment

You seem to be interested in the transpiration project I suggested. If for your term paper you were supposed to perform an experiment and you are now doing it at the last minute I would suggest the second option, percent moisture content. It would be rather bad form to make up the data. If your teacher has an inkling of sense, you will probably get caught and will be extremely screwed. I would suggest you fess up to the teacher and ask for extension. There are usually very bad consequences for forging major papers, usually automatic fails on the paper at minimum, to automatic fail at the class + permanent record where I am at. If you fess up you could lose a letter grade or so on the paper, but it would be better than alternative. If you fess up, the best thing to do is call her/him ASAP or right when they get to school, not right before class.

Since you are probably stressed and desperate I will give you some tips.

First off is actually do the experiment.

Build the setup first. Hopefully you have figured out a good way to build a setup so that you can figure out how much water is being lost by the plant through transpiration without having to disrupt the system to take a measurement. If you read the article on transpiration you might have noticed potometer. While it looks very complicated, it is simply a system where you have water in a container, you stick in a shoot in like in the picture and the shoot absorbs water for transpiration. Ideally with a potometer, you don't want to lose water through evaporation of the water from the container (only through the plant) and you don't want to have air bubbles on your plant's absorptive surface (the bottom where you cut it).

If you are going with the still air vs. wind project (or other variable), you want the environment for the plants to be as similar as possible except for the one independent variable which is moving air (or the other variable). You could also do bright light vs not bright light. Just pick one variable. I would suggest you measure more than one shoot for each variable, so for example three shoots for windy and three for still air. You have more data that way. And the more the better, as many setups as you can make.

Finally when you have finished building the setups, go outside and find some identifiable plant that you can pick and scissor off healthy shoots with several leaves and no flowers that are about the length of your finger at least. A garden is very useful because people usually know what is growing in it. Plants with big leaves are generally better than plants with little leaves, simply for ease of measurement reasons. Plants are also better fresh.

Plants transpire mostly through their leaves rather than their stem, and as you might have figured out the rate of transpiration is directly related to, among other things, leaf surface area. Figuring out the surface area of the leaves is important because a plant with three big leaves is going to transpire more than a plant with three small leaves in the same conditions and you will have to account for that. What you want to know is the transpiration/surface area. It's up to you to explain why.

Once you have your group of shoots in the windy conditions (or other variable) and the group of shoots in the still air conditions, take data once every 30 minutes or so. The longer you run this experiment the better. If you can do like 6 hours or more that would be great.

You still have to explain all of this in your experiment. Good luck. Don't put off a term paper with an experiment again. Fessing up is a good idea if it is due tomorrow. Sifaka

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