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Anwar saadat

The following discussion is an archived debate of the username below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for comment/User names). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result was: Allow. The username policy at the time of account creation discouraged but did not prohibit user names of famous people, the subject is not recently deceased, and there has been no evidence of impersonation, or evidence of inflammatory POV editing. —dgiesc 17:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Anwar saadat (talk · contribs)

The likelihood that this person is the famous Anwar Sadat is small. Identity should be confirmed or the user should be requested to change their name. The famous person is quite a controversial person, and using such a name is likely to provoke contoversy. The username policy forbids names of famous people anyway. This user is still rather new, so the issue should be dealt with ASAP. pschemp | talk 20:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
It could, but the username policy specifically requires authentication for famous names. It sucks to have the same name as a celebrity, but that's the way it goes. It falls under misleading usernames, "Usernames that match the name of a well-known living or recently deceased person, unless you verifiably are that person." pschemp | talk 20:26, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Anwar Sadat, the famous one I imagine you're referring to, was assassinated in 1981. The policy states that usernames similar to living or recently deceased famous persons are disallowed, I think 27 years is beyond recent. Leebo /C 20:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • This user is not new, he's been contributing quite regularly since 2005. I'm inclined to allow long-standing editors to retain their usernames, as they've presumably built up a reputation under them, but encourage them to change if significant concerns are raised. -SpuriousQ (talk) 20:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, what about "Usernames that promote a controversial or potentially inflammatory point of view."? My concern, as evidenced from the note on his talkpage, is that this person is here to promote a specific controversial view, and the name inflames that. pschemp | talk 20:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

The username policy only requires the authentication of names where the user is the famous one, not when they share a name. GDonato (talk) 20:40, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
(ec) Is he editing Egyptian/Islamic articles with a POV slant? If not, I don't think that angle is one we need to worry about, and if he is then his conduct could be addressed. The verificatoin issue is mostly moot considering Sadat's death and the time since then. Also, what is the controversial view you say he's promoting? I don't see it from looking at his talk page. Leebo /C 20:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Not really, Anwar Sadat the Egyptian was not known for religious politics anyway. Anwar has had a few religious clashes with some Hindu users mostly. The Egyptian was mostly having peace negotiations with Israel not on a very relgious tone. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
He has had a colourful history anyway GDonato (talk) 20:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Umm, famous Sadat dead since 1981, spelled different, someone close this before my head explodes. IvoShandor 21:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
By the way, I contacted the third president of Egypt, he confirmed that User:Anwar saadat was indeed him. IvoShandor 21:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
We were aware of that; the issue of the name being inflammatory has not been properly addressed to close this, imo. GDonato (talk) 21:48, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Has the user been contributing since 2005? Has anyone else ever made any comments about the username? I'd be tempted to let it go if the user has been editing for a long time without incident. Dan Beale 21:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

(undent)Any name could be construed as inflammatory. A few people are bound to be offended by almost anything. IvoShandor 22:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I do agree that this name should be allowed but there is not sufficient discussion to close this, imo. GDonato (talk) 22:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • You need more discussion to close this? Ok, how about this. Since the real Anwar Sadat has been dead for over twenty years, there is no chance he could be confused with him. Secondly, this user name is also spelled differently. I would guess that this user admires the real Anwar Sadat and wants to use a name similar. Unless this user is going to act in inappropriate ways, which is against our policy whatever name you have, I don't see any reason not to allow it. As for whatever rule might say something about names, such rules are guidelines, not laws written in stone. Perhaps someone could link an alleged rule that might say this isn't allowed so we could look at it.

What note on his talk page is the one that you mean, pschemp? Unless someone can point out some really good reasons, I don't see we need to bother with objecting to his name. Rules for the sake of rules is a bad thing. Either there is a valid reason (which I've not seen mentioned yet) to deny him this name or not. Fanra 23:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Well I have come into contact with this user and his username was mentioned a last year, on ANI. It was pointed out that Anwar is a very common Muslim name, and so is Saadat apparently...and that there are 200 million Indian Muslims (although Anwar doesn't live in India). But anyway, if you look at Muslims, there are some given names that are used over and over again. And for Asians generally, you tend to get some surnames taking up large percentages.....Nguyen in Vietnam, etc, etc... People of Vietnamese descent in Australia are only 1% of the population and yet Nguyen is in the 10 most common surnames. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:48, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
The username isn't a problem. The real Sadat died in 1981, so unless someone is haxoring from the grave, no impersonation issues are present. User:Zscout370 06:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the entries talk page). No further edits should be made to this page.


0564401
The following discussion is an archived debate of the username below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for comment/User names). No further edits should be made to this section.


Allow. Viridae 10:41, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

0564401 (talk · contribs)

Moving from WP:UAA. User thought name was too random. See diff. No personal opinion. ~ Wikihermit 01:04, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
6 characters is not too random. Ryan Postlethwaite 01:08, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Good counting Ryan! Is that you final answer? --(Review Me) R Contribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 01:18, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, someone put it as 6 at UAA! Still, I don't think it's too random. Ryan Postlethwaite 01:21, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I misread you R - you said 7, time for bed me thinks.... Ryan Postlethwaite 01:22, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
It's no longer than a local phone number. It's unconventional, but not inappropriate I don't think. Leebo /C 01:22, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
The first few Google hits are from various wikis and forums, so it seems that this user has established an identity using the name. Using the same string on different forums means, to me, that it isn't random. Dan Beale 08:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
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Bthsmathteam

Bthsmathteam (talk · contribs)

I'm concerned this username might be a problem since it's a clear association with the group and the editor's only edits have been to the page about the Math team. I'd suggest changing it, but the editor may be too inexperienced with Misplaced Pages to understand the problem and I'm not at all confident in my ability to explain it. Mister.Manticore 04:06, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


Paul Tracy

Paul Tracy (talk · contribs)

After I spotted the account User:Jimbo online I decided to read the policy and found that my own username may be invalid as there is a racing driver who shares my name. Do I need to change it? Paul Tracy|\talk 10:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


Policy says
  1. Misleading usernames that imply relevant, misleading things about the user, including but not limited to:
  • Usernames that match the name of a well-known living or recently deceased person, unless you verifiably are that person, in which case please note this on your user page. Wikipedians with articles is a list of such users.

Maybe have something on your user page "I'm not the racing driver". Paul is a common given name and Tracy is a common family name, so there are bound to be many Paul Tracys who are not racing drivers. In my opinion unless you're editing anything connected to racing sports / cars / etc you should be ok. Maybe the policy should be changed? Dan Beale 12:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Given the commonness of both names, and that it is your name, I think a simple notice on your page saying you are not him will be fine. 13:14, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with H. It's not a rare name, so it would be completely reasonable for you to be able to keep your username. I also agree that a statement on your page stating that you are not him would be helpful.  hmwith  talk 14:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with both above, a statement would be helpful on your page, but even that is not compulsory. Allow. GDonato (talk) 14:25, 17 June 2007 (UTC)