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I'm planning to write a major article on the Yom Kippur War (like I did with the Six-Day War), but it may yet take a while to write it (lots of material, viewpoints). --Uriyan

Suprisingly, this article does not even state why it is called "Yom Kippur War", although it contains a lot of other interesting information. --user:FlorianMarquardt

Who the heck is this Esseily guy? Are you trying to re-write history with incorrect facts just to make the Egyptians look better or something? You're obviously not impartial enough to comment on this article. Name the war after the people who won? It's always been called the Yom Kippur War. That's the day the Arab nations attacked Israel again. Emphasis on the word "Attacked" and "Again". There's no rewards for aggressors in war. Egypt lost land from a previous war when they "Attacked" Israel. What do you want Israel to say, "Oh, we're sorry you attacked us and we had to defend ourselves and take some land. Here you go. You can have the land back if you promise not to "Attack" us anymore." Sorry pal, it doesn't work that way. And what's with calling the war an Egyptian victory? I'm pretty sure the Egyptian army was defeated and the Israeli tanks were only about 20Km outside Damascus before the U.S. implored them not to attack and to turn around and go back. If you want to call that a victory, o.k. I guess. Israel gave the land back after Camp David not because of any defeat during this war, but as a peace offering with assurance that Egypt recognizes the state of Israel and will not declare war on them anymore. Pretty nice gesture by Israel. Hey, Eiselly! Keep it real or go post on some Al Jazeera web site where you could commiserate with other haters. On second thought, why don't you stop breeding hate, and become the first great Arab leader and lead your people to peace and to friendly relationships with the great nation of Israel and its people, and then you can stand up and tell the other Arab nations to do the same thing and to stop killing innocent people living in their homes or on buses. Lead by example. Right now the Arab nations seemed to lost and the only thing they can agree on is to hate Israel. If it wasn't for Israel they would all be fighting with themselves. If only you could turn all that negative energy into something good. It only takes one Esseily. Be the leader of your people and start to bring peace to one corner of the world. -- Mar 3 2005 16:25

Actually the site does state why the war is caller "Yom Kippur War" it's because the attack was planned on that day of the Holy Jewish Event, but if it was up to me I'll call it as the people who won the war call it "The 6th. of October War" or "The Canal Crossing Battle"--Esseily 00:31, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

This may be an English-to-Hebrew mistake (on my part) but I believe the name is Avraham "Bren" Adan (as opposed to Avraham "Bern" Eden). (from the book "On the Banks of the Suez ..." by the same). Additionally, I think it's important to note that this was considered one of the biggest Arab victories over Israel ever (despite the outcome) to the point that Eqypt currently still celebrates the date the war began. Likewise this war precipitated the resignation of Golda Meir as Prime Minister of Israel (among other notable Israeli politicians and military) and wwas considered one of the worst wars for Israel (by Israelis). Also in your copy, you stated that Egypt didn't plan on developing on their initial successes which is not entirely true. The Egyptian military headed by Abu-Iziz (if I remember the name correctly) plan (Badr) stated that all eastern bank crossings were to be consolidated *before* advancing further east. The actual objective was to capture the whole of the Sinai and Gaza. The actual reason why the Egyptian advance stalled was that they could not overrun the Bar-Lev line as completely as they had planned to. This was due in part to Israeli soldiers who fought extremely bravely, but more due to the fact that there was confusion, hesitation and ultimately failure at evacuating the strongpoints along the canal from the Southern Command (under Gonen at the time). - Baraq Baron Ben-Gideon Bacharach (baraq@dmech.org)

I didn't get the (despite the outcome part) coz as far as we're Egyptians concerned we did win that war, and we took back most of our land in battle and the rest through peace talks that started with the Camp David Agreement If I'm to say what I think of the outcome, the only thing Egyptians in general didn't like about the Camp David agreement was the restriction on the numbers of the Egyptian troops in Sinai, coz simply this is Egyptian land and only Egypt should have the power to decide how many of our troops should be there .. other than that the outcome was fine .. The October War is till today considered one of the biggest Tank Battles in the modern Military history and it was a well earned victory to retrieve the Egyptian land, of course with the help of all fellow arab countries that participated in the battle in a way the other .. and by the way the Barlev defence line was almost completely destroyed in those 6 hours of the first day of war and I beleive that was the main reason why behind the Israili resignations, coz Israelis before the war were told that the Barlev line in inpenetrable .. which proved wrong of course.

A very important fact that Baraq missed as well is that the fight stopped not because of the the bravery of the Israeli soldiers "maybe that is true" but mainly because of the very heavy American reinforcements, hundreds of the Israeli tanks that were destroyed in the battlefield were of course American plus they were brand new, they were brought by by an air bridge to the battle field and they managed to join the fight in very early stages ..

My last comment on the Article is that I don't beleive the casualties and dead figures are right at all, If I could get precise information I'll post it ASAP.. thanks all for ur time --Esseily 00:34, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

What about the Bomb? BL 22:23, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

What about it? This war didn't go nuclear at all. Berrik

There was the possibility of nuclear war during this war but no mention is made about it. From the DEFCON article:

DEFCON 3 refers to an increase in force readiness above normal. United States military commands (minus the Strategic Air Command, at heightened alert on DEFCON 2) went to this level in 1962 during the Cuban Missile Crisis. All United States forces went on DEFCON 3 during the 1973 Yom Kippur War when Soviet nuclear warheads were discovered moving toward Egypt. James Schlesinger sent U.S. forces to the Middle East without notifying NATO. The third time the United States reached DEFCON 3 was during the September 11, 2001 attacks.

I am not familiar with this war but I think that the nuclear aspect should be mentioned since the word 'nuclear' isnt found in the article at all. --ShaunMacPherson 06:49, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

If you want to add blow-by-blow accounts of battles or heaps of statistics, I suggest that you break it out into a seperate article and link to it. I also suggest that you represent both sides equally. Putting in a figure for Israeli casualties for a single battle but not mentioning anything else (including possibly casualties on the other side?) is neither NPOV nor good practice. Nvinen 13:07, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Weaponry

I deleted cause it was not really true. Isreal got many weapons from Germany the USA and members in the common wealth.

the old mistaken surprise subject

listen there was no surprised attack what so ever. we know in Israel that the military and goverment high ministers knew and had all the signs that the war is going to break. to say that there was a surprise it is a bad point of view and a one major error. 212.179.81.67

Perhaps so, but either way, it's impertinent — historical claims and observations requiere references. El_C 10:18, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

http://lib.cet.ac.il/pages/item.asp?item=2424 http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2773155,00.html#n http://my.ynet.co.il/pic/docs/doc_30.1/ Oraien

Thanks. I remember reading their (Yedioth Ahronoth, that is) print series on it with great interest and found it absolutely fascinating. Incidentally, you can sign your username by typing ~~~~ :) El_C 19:43, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

it is very interesting and also very outrageous to find that the chief of steff generals and the defense minister knew abot that the war is going to break but didn`t do anything.

Things to do

I am satisfied that the section about the lead up to the war is complete. The immediate aftermath is *almost* complete (it just needs a talk about the syrian front and UN peacekeeper intervention). The section on the war itself is wholly inadaquate, and the long term effects section is virtually empty. I'd like to address these, and then nominate this article on Misplaced Pages:featured article candidates. In the mean time, I'd appreciate it if anyone could track down some copyleft pics of the fighting to use in this article. →Raul654 03:01, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

I've just created the article on Operation Nickel Grass, the U.S. airlift of supplies to Israel (it's since been featured in Did You Know). I'll start looking for pics and see if I can't contribute here and there... -Lommer | 03:36, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ok, with the work I did today, I'm happy with the immediate aftermath section. Now it just needs a better description of the long term effects and of the fighting itself. →Raul654 21:20, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

what is AMAN?

it seems like it is a government agency but it is not explained in the article and its left as a link to an article yet to be written. a footnore, a parenthetical comment, or an article stub would help here. uri budnik 08:05, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

AMAN (the name is the english acronym fo the Hebrew name) is one of Israel's (many) intelligence agencies. As I understand it, their job is to (among other things) digest the intelligence recieved by all the other agencies. Check this link. →Raul654 08:12, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

a reference to the rabinovich report is needed

i am assuming that all the attributions marked "Rabinovich" are to a report by an author of that name. it would be usefull to at least create an article stub about this person and/or the report he authored about this war.uri budnik 08:05, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Rabinovich refers to Abraham Rabinovich. I was using this book here to write most of this article. (The book is, from what I have seen, considered one of the best descriptions of the war you can get) →Raul654 08:12, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

But it does represent one particular current in the historiography. See: Critical book review. El_C 08:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

ok, thanks for the clarification. i had incorrectly assumed that the "Rabinovich" references were to a public report by the israeli government or a commission thereof (like the 9/11 report). this certainly needs to be fixed in the article. i am just not sure what the appropriate stylistic form for the reference is. i'll look it up somehow.

on the POV issue, i agree with EL_C, however, the article IS written in the spirit of NPOV (IMHO). i suspect it would take an arab speaker who has read on the subject from author(s) writing for "the other side" to make it unequivocally neutral. when i was in college i wrote a paper for a negotiations and conflict resolution class on the falklan island war (or the maldives war depending on whose side you were on.) for research i read books and articles from american, british and argentinian (and some other latin american) authors both in spanish and english. it really struck me then how massively different points of view and perspectives on the same event can be. i think this is a great article as it is, and that it would take someone that can come at it from a completely different perspective to be able to make it truly NPOV. so, perhaps someone who perceives this event from a different perspective will come along and take a stab at it. isn't that what the wikipedia is all about? i hope this happens as i would like to see this great article improved even further. i am curious what someone with a primarily arab perspective would add to this. (please take this in the positive spirit that it is meant) uri budnik 09:52, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)