This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Layla12275 (talk | contribs) at 06:52, 13 August 2007 (→needs work). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.
Revision as of 06:52, 13 August 2007 by Layla12275 (talk | contribs) (→needs work)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff) | The Beatles Start‑class  | |||||||||||||||||||
| ||||||||||||||||||||
This seems terribly biased and unencyclopedic:
"While she seems to have a good life and many things going for her, she chooses to and remains to this day hopelessly obsessed with John Lennon."
At worst it's biased, and at best it's too conversational for this venue. Is there a citation that could demonstrate the same idea appropriately, or should the line simply be pulled? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.52.69.217 (talk • contribs) .
- You're right. I just removed that sentence; please feel free to copyedit the rest of the article to make it more accurate and neutral. --Bk0 (Talk) 01:53, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
The article states, "though others have noticed that she re-tells different versions of her story in order to stay in the news and over-inflate her importance in Lennon's life." Can this statement be supported in any way? --Eastend
Major Vandalism
There has been an extreme attempt to bias this article in Pang's favor, possibly by Pang herself (the user is MsMP), which included the deletion of an entire section that appropriately discussed criticism of her book without any discussion whatsoever. Everyone please watch this article. 74.39.18.117 20:09, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- There has been a second vandalism attempt that was again reverted. I'd also like to add that the comment that claims that Yoko Ono has "verified" in "several interviews over the years" that John Lennon and May Pang were "emotionally involved" (from which the last user attempted to removed the "citation needed" tag) is likely untrue, as Ono tends to delegate such questions to her publicist, Eliiot Mintz. I've read many interviews with Ms. Ono and I don't recall her ever mentioning Pang by name. That's not to say she never has, but it's unlikely. Layla12275 19:18, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Dont let this happen. The original august 3rd was the best and most honest. It displayed the critisms accuratley.
Also it appears May removed the line about her being on the payroll the whole time through 1975, a fact she confirms in her own book, as well as her removing the line about Lennon having affairs with other women which May also confirms in her own book as well as testimony of the women he had the affairs with. here are the lines she deleted - "Pang lived with Lennon from late 1973 until the first weeks of 1975, and was employed and on the payroll working during the day on the business end of his recording projects" and "While in LA, Lennon decided to collaborate with Phil Spector to record an album of oldies. During this time, Lennon had numerous affairs with other women while drinking to excess and partying hard."
- Amazing...just note in reading this article how incredibly delusional Pang is. "WE did Rock n Roll..." Wasn't she just a P.A., professionally speaking (obviously her role in keeping John's bed warm should have nothing to do with that album)? She honestly seems to believe that not only was John Lennon in love with her, she actually had an impact on his art. Wow. 128.226.221.151 23:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
11/17/06 Removed internal link for Robert Rosen. It was linked to Robert Rosen the biologist, not Robert Rosen the author.
In reponse to above, yes she was a PA and secretary. BUT she did not contribute to any of Lennon's artistic or musical projects other then to arrange studio times and organize sessions. It is sad that she seems to think she was a major influence on Lennon, when in her own book she states that in May 1974 Lennon left her in LA for an entire month while he went back to NYC. During the time away from May he wrote all the songs for Walls and Bridges in a two week period. She was not even present for the conception of these songs. This information is in her book and for her to change her story now is ludicrous.
Vandal
User 69.38.133.62 has added comments to my talk page that were hidden in the middle of another editor's comments. Protect this page now, and block the idiot in question. andreasegde 19:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Can the comments here be toned down a bit? There is no reason to use profanities or to make serious allegations without foundations.
- Please sign your comments. If you'll notice the long-term, constant attempts to vandalize this page, the similar usernames and the similarities to Pang's own name, not to mention to the author of the so-called "article" that was just removed from the External Links, these allegations are not without foundations. They're not proven, but no allegations are proven by the definition of the word. They are suspicions, and there is certainly plenty of reason to suspect. Again, if you'd like to be at all taken seriously, please sign your comments.
- In other news, I agree that everything having anything to do with "Jean Teeters" (Pang's alias? ) should be removed. Nice work by the last user to do so. Layla12275 07:22, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
I removed Jean Teeters stuff as well. She's just an obsessed fan who used to run May's website and is disgruntled.
Vandalism of Talk Page
I notice that this Talk page was recently almost entirely deleted and had to be restored. I made a comment on the user's talk page that this is major vandalism, and if it was a mistake to please be more mindful in the future. In case it wasn't a mistake--PLEASE keep an eye on this page. Layla12275 02:45, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
May Returns
Okay, SixString1965 is very likely another attempt by May to revise history. Round of applause to LaraLove for reporting this "personal friend of May Pang" and for helping to revert her vandalism. Layla12275 05:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- User was banned. Well done, LaraLove. He seems to think that I was the one to have reported him. Layla12275 05:59, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, but it was no problem. However, the article does need to be sourced to reliable sources and correctly formatted. Additionally, the use of the book cover image in the infobox is inappropriate. Infoboxes should only include free use images. However, even in the body of the article, the book covers use needs to be justified with a detailed fair use rationale. Lara♥Love 06:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks so much again for your help. I agree about the sources, but I didn't write the majority of the initial article, so I don't know where the information in the Bio section came from, though much of it can be sourced from Pang's book. I also don't have any information for you about the picture. The Criticism section is sourced, though. Most, if not all, comes from the Wiener interview and the Coleman book. Layla12275 06:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- Working on sourcing the criticism section now. Reported the anon IP address that ignored about four or five warnings--apparently May is threatening to sue over being fairly criticized. Interesting. Layla12275 06:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks so much again for your help. I agree about the sources, but I didn't write the majority of the initial article, so I don't know where the information in the Bio section came from, though much of it can be sourced from Pang's book. I also don't have any information for you about the picture. The Criticism section is sourced, though. Most, if not all, comes from the Wiener interview and the Coleman book. Layla12275 06:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, but it was no problem. However, the article does need to be sourced to reliable sources and correctly formatted. Additionally, the use of the book cover image in the infobox is inappropriate. Infoboxes should only include free use images. However, even in the body of the article, the book covers use needs to be justified with a detailed fair use rationale. Lara♥Love 06:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
needs work
The article really needs a major overhaul - to me it reads like an article about her book, not a balanced biographical article about her. It is too colloquial in places, and in serious need of sourcing throughout. A copyedit would be helpful. Should keep WP:BLP in mind too, of course. Tvoz |talk 06:37, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- The Criticism section should be fairly adequately sourced now, though I'm not sure about the proper format. Layla12275 06:47, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I'd also add that most of it is about her book because the book is really her claim to fame, and its sensationalism is really the only reason she's a person of note. Of course, her relationship with Lennon is a reason as well, but other than the fact that she was his PA and that they had a physical relationship, her other claims are widely disputed--and also contradicted by the fact that Lennon was vacationing on another continent during many of the rendezvouses she suggests. Other biographical information would be welcome, of course, but I don't know where we would find that. Thanks so much for the help! Layla12275 06:51, 13 August 2007 (UTC)