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Stalking and Harassment

I've got a couple of Wiki admins (User:Ronz and User:Shot info) tag-teaming me to harass and stalk me across several wikis. They are both claiming to do so on the basis of "policy" violations but both of them refuse to follow policy for their actions. They're also engaging in threats as well as accusing other editors of being sockpuppets/meatpuppets in order to justify their actions. They're even removing valid comments from those editors explaining their actions!

Background and current issues

  1. Talk:ITIL v3 and ITIL v3
  2. Talk:Flybd5#More_on_ITIL_v3 and everything below.
  3. Bede BD-5 and Talk:Bede BD-5#Advert_tag and everything below. In particular, look at the comments from other editors complaining about the actions of both User:Ronz and User:Shot info.
  4. Jim Bede for further pattern of stalking and harassment.
  5. Misplaced Pages:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#User:Flybd5
  6. Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#http:.2F.2Fspam.bd5.com

There are several things being done here, aside from following me to my edits and talk pages. The edits are being made to the articles to remove long-standing links and info without any attempt at discussion or consensus. This in and of itself is a pattern of disruption, exacerbated by the placement of advert tags to further inflame the issue (the subject of at least one long comment thread from one other editor pointing out the disruptive nature of that action in this context). Both of these users believe it is their right to make edits without following any sort of policy on the process to make changes.

User:Ronz in particular is continuing a pattern of making accusations of advertising, first alleging the BD-5 Network web site is commercial, when it is not. Then he claims that having an AdSense link makes it commercial, as if now we have to look at every external link on Misplaced Pages and blow it away if it has a link to an AdSense account. Then he makes accusations of "business relationships" on the basis of a single link I provided to a disabled person who has a small business selling digitized copies of the aircraft's construction plans. It goes on and on, with User:Shot info lecturing everyone on the rules everyone else must follow, except him and User:Ronz.

I want to point out very clearly that I do not have an issue with being challenged on links, etc. but I do have an issue with admins running rooughshod over articles, threatening and attempting to intimidate people, accusing other editors of sockpuppetry and all sorts of other things, all in an attempt to impose their will on the community. This is grossly inappropriate behavior for admins. Flybd5` —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 12:39, 10 October 2007

If I may comment some more to this point, please note that I too have experienced the tag team harrassment efforts of Ronz and Shot info. The brunt of it comes from Ronz. I have found him to be a bully and a troll. A look through his recent postings on my talk page will show anyone who cares to see the tactics this guy employs. I hope some kind of warning to Ronz and company comes from this posting here. TheDoctorIsIn 01:59, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Have you made an RFC about the issue? Adrian M. H. 14:43, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Define "RFC", please. Flybd5 16:59, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Really? RFC. At least it answers my question, and facilitates a suggestion: if the issues are ongoing/current, open an RFC about it. Adrian M. H. 17:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Why duplicate the complaint in multiple locations? That seems counterproductive to me. Flybd5 17:43, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Because it is a dispute that involves user conduct, for which RFC is generally the most appropriate venue. Adrian M. H. 18:02, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Flydbd5, if you start an RFC, let me know how I can participate. Ronz has been bullying me for a long time and continues to. I would like to see how the community feels about his uncivil behavior. TheDoctorIsIn 02:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I feel the same way. I support admins making necessary edits to prevent spammers from ruining Misplaced Pages, but I object to overzealous admins making across the board edits to valid material that belongs in the article. In fact, just as spammers make unnecessary contributions to articles, guys like Ronz do the opposite, they block necessary and pertinent information from being included thereby dumbing down Misplaced Pages that much more. Ronz has made a number of edits to the Sybian (see discussion) article, and even though several other admins have supported the contributions I have made, he insists that he is right and will not accept any other outcome. Furthermore, when asked to provide support to his arguments for the deletions, he is quick to either change his arguments or he simply dismisses the request. His arrogance can even be summed up with his "Good luck with that" quote -Buttysquirrel 16:14, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Mirroring Misplaced Pages

I am a graphic design student studying graphic design at the Gerrit Rietveld Academie in Amsterdam. I am currrently attempting to create a duplicate of Misplaced Pages minus it's content, showing only links (see for an example — http://69.89.31.135/~philbabe/index.php?title=Mirror)

This has no practical purpose and is an answer to a conceptual brief. It will not be on a commercial website and will be shown only part of a presentation to my class and within my personal portfolio.

So my question is, is it possible to mirror Misplaced Pages's content directly from the interent ('live' I suppose). I am aware that it is possible to download a 'dump' but I am not completely sure of the technicalities of this, and time is also an issue as the deadline for this project is soon.

Any advice and help is much appreciated...

—P. Baber —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pbaber (talk • contribs) 22:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

You should read Misplaced Pages:Mirrors and forks#Remote loading. Remote loading is considered an unacceptable use of Wikimedia server resources. ssepp 21:58, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
What if you simply download the wikimedia software and install it (it's only like 15 MB, I think)? Graphically, it may not be quite the same, but it's fully customisable, so you could download the files and use them for non-commercial purposes, as long as you adequately mark them under the appropriate fair use guidelines. --lincalinca 03:42, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Watchlist editing by other editors?

Is it possible to edit someone else's watchlist? I have reason to suspect mine has been edited: I check it occasionally and over the last few months I sometimes see a redlinked page whose title is obviously a "vandalous" page. While I do patrol newpages sometimes and nominate for speedy where appropriate, I almost always leave messages on the original author's page to inform them about the CSD. When looking at those pages I can track the names of the pages I put up for SD, and I do not see the suspect titles.

If it isn't possible, then my memory/diligence with informing editors of CSD notices isn't perfect. But if it is possible, would there be a way to watchlist the watchlist ? Is there any substantial drawback to not doing this and risking a lot of nonsense/vandalous names in the watchlist?

Thanks, Baccyak4H (Yak!) 16:53, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

If somebody moves a page that's on your Watchlist, the new, moved-to, page name will show up in your Watchlist. If the page gets moved back to its correct place and the vandalized page name is deleted, I guess the redlink stays in your Watchlist. Corvus cornix 17:24, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Ahh, OK. Maybe that is what happened. I'll try to confirm that the next time I see a silly title there. Thanks, Baccyak4H (Yak!) 20:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Move vandalism gets reverted and deleted very quickly because it is so blatant. If you redlink the name of the deleted article here, an admin can look at the history and tell you if it is a result of move vandalism. - BanyanTree 01:33, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Actually, you don't need an admin, if you can hypothecise which article it is, check that article's history. --lincalinca 03:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Repeated blanking a talk page by anonymous users

On the page Talk:IMesh, a discussion I had regards to changes which were made has been repeatedly blanked. Since, I assume, it's been made clear that the information would not be included in the article, anonymous users have repeatedly blanked the discussion, and I've tried every trick I know to get them to stop. Notifying them on their talk page, warning them on their talk page, including reasons why I keep reverting it in the summary, including hidden text in the page... so far, nothing seems to have made them stop trying to remove the discussion. While it's not particularly destructive, it is annoying to have to repeatedly revert the discussion's blanking. I don't want (or think you even CAN) to protect the talk page, banning the user is pretty pointless since I'm pretty certain whoever is doing this is using proxies... any ideas? -FrYGuY 08:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I nominated both article and Talk page to be semi-protected at WP:RPP, but it was declined. They suggested that there might be only two anons and that going to AIV was better. Pursue that if you wish, since now you can cite RPP's opinion in a report at AIV. Having a second look at the article, I think AfD might be considered. Does anyone believe that IMesh is notable? The article seems to have no reliable sources that testify to its importance. EdJohnston 04:52, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Help needed with Template:Widescreen monitor resolutions

Can someone please help me with this template:

x
(width) 		y
(height) 		Pixels (Mpx) Aspect
ratio 		Proportion difference of total pixels Typical
sizes (inch) 		Non-wide
version 		Note
Name WXGA WXGA+ WSXGA+ WUXGA UW-UXGA WQHD WQXGA
WXGA 1280 800 1.024 1.6 — −21% −42% −56% −63% −72% −75% 15–19 XGA
WSXGA/WXGA+ 1440 900 1.296 1.6 +27% — −27% −44% −53% −65% −68% 15–19 XGA+
WSXGA+ 1680 1050 1.764 1.6 +72% +36% — −23% −36% −52% −57% 20–22 SXGA+
WUXGA 1920 1200 2.304 1.6 +125% +78% +31% — −17% −38% −44% 23–28 UXGA Displays 1920×1080 video with slight letterbox
UW-UXGA 2560 1080 2.765 2.37 +170% +113% +57% +20% — −25% −32% 29, 34 SXGA+
WQHD 2560 1440 3.686 1.778 +260% +184% +109% +60% +33% — −10% 27
WQXGA 2560 1600 4.096 1.6 +300% +216% +132% +78% +48% +11% — 30+ QXGA Complements portrait UXGA

I want to make it smaller and more attractive so that it can be placed on all the different widescreen monitor resolution articles (i.e. Wide XGA, WSXGA Wide XGA+, WSXGA+, WUXGA, and WQXGA). Also the content of the "uses" column needs work. Perhaps that column should be eliminated altogether; what do you think? Captain Zyrain 18:22, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I have a few suggestions, but I'll bring them up over at the talk page of the template. --lincalinca 03:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Anonymous user blanking talk page

An anonymous user is blanking their talk page to remove evidence of prior edit-warring, etc. See User talk:24.247.215.55. I have reverted it several times but the user continually claims they have the right to do so (even though WP:talk says otherwise). --Rehcsif 04:21, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

From WP:TALK, it says: "On your own user talk page, you may remove comments from others, although archiving is generally preferred and removing comments without any reason is generally regarded as uncivil." And it does not specifically rule out anons. Adrian M. H. 11:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
In practice, an IP subject to repeated warnings are not granted the same leeway as an account that has built a reputation making good edits. There are established anon users on stable IPs, but these users tend to adopt courtesies such as discussion archiving on their own accord, not to mention not doing things that result in large numbers of warnings. - BanyanTree 07:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure about this? As far as I'm aware there is no exception and if a user removes content from their talk page, you should not revert. I know last time I asked this was the case and I was even informed that by getting into a revert war with an anon of their talk page, I may be blocked for disruption. For more info check out Misplaced Pages:Vandalism#Discussion page vandalism which specifically mentions it's not prohibited and also links to the FAQ which mentions the cases where it's come up and in all cases it was decided that removing warnings is not prohibited even if discouraged. Nil Einne 16:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Created Pages

How can I see a list of pages I created with my account? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cosprings (talk • contribs) 19:36, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

All your contributions are here: Special:Contributions/Cosprings GlassCobra (Review) 18:11, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
I know this. I want to see a list of only pages which I created.Cosprings 20:18, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
I think you're out of luck. There's a script on the toolserver is supposed to do this, but I can never get it to work: here. The other alternative is to search through your contribs for "created". Because you don't use edit summaries, new pages get an automatic summary of "Created page with <stuff>". May be easier doing this 5k at a time, like this. Angus McLellan (Talk) 20:33, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
According to your link, Angus, I don't exist. :( GlassCobra 07:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

User box help

Hi i am just wondering where i can find a userbox for being catholic (if one exists)--AFUSCO 01:53, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

There are a number of userboxes that say this (with some going into more detail as to what kind of Catholic you are), so take your pick!
Tra (Talk) 02:20, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the help--AFUSCO 18:08, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Animals

A relatively new WikiProject is currently working toward improving all animal and zoology related articles. If either topic is an interest of yours, please add your name to the participants page and check the task list for areas that are in need of work. Thanks, Justin 03:41, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Need help on creating a new entry.

How do I create a new entry in Misplaced Pages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camdo2 (talk • contribs) 16:05, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Misplaced Pages first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Misplaced Pages:Your first article and Misplaced Pages:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Misplaced Pages:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. --Moonriddengirl 17:59, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

See Also Section

I've just created a new template: {{Seealsosection}}

I've designed it to belong in the "See also" section to provide a link to the various sister projects (and portals). I was wanting a little help, or maybe just a few more eyes looking over the templat. I've transcluded it in a few different types of pages to make sure it works and I've had no issues so far. The reason I've created the template (if you were wondering) is because I think having five boxes bounding together with "portal", "see this on wikiquote", "Commons", "Wikispecies", "Wikinews article" etc etc etc. This way it makes them into a list, still featuring the sister project/portal logo subtley.

So again, if someone/some people can glance at this, make sure there's nothing missing/poorly coded (I'm still getting used to running the extended Parsing Functions, so you may have to excuse how I code) and of course, if there's anything generally you think would look good to be implemented. Just so you know, I have NOT included an option to provide a piped link in the template, because see also sections (like disambiguation pages) should only ever list the article name.

Let me know what you think! --lincalinca 04:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I would prefer (also in the box) "wikibooks:abc" over "abc on Wikibooks", etc., the second link is less needed, and one may accidentally press it when one wants the first.--Patrick 11:41, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Creating a user page

Hi, I'm new here and was wondering how I can set up my own user page. I'm not quite sure where to begin. I've checked out the tutorial and played around in the sandbox but those things don't seem to make the same kind of layout as other user pages I've seen. Any help and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. JMlover 20:43, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject User Page Help. Adrian M. H. 21:06, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Tags removed on unsourced article

This article VampireFreaks.com doesn't show how it would satisfy WP:WEB and use only one primary source as a passing reference (the other reference was the site's own homepage url!). But when tagged for notability and primary sources, tags are just immediately removed. Looks like the article is owned by its self-described community. Some impartial eyeballs would be useful on this. 62.147.39.223 00:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Try starting a discussion by explaining your concerns on the discussion. Conversations via revert edit summaries rarely end well. Also, if you think it should go to AFD, take it to AFD. Toothless threats to delete an article are lame. - BanyanTree 05:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
The concerns were clearly explained both by edit summaries quoting WP:WEB and the contents of the tags: This article currently doesn't pass WP:WEB and use only one primary source, an interview of the founder. It's basic policy that doesn't need discussion with a band of meatpuppets sent here by the website. It was already deleted in 2005 as Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Vampirefreaks when its only claim to notoriety was hosting the profile of the Dawson College shooting killer. Since, it was recreated under a different name to bypass the AFD, and the shooting incident expunged from the article. I'm only a wikignome so I can't make AFDs, but since they don't even want the regular tags or improve their article, I've informed the bypassed AFD's nominator and closing admins. 62.147.38.190 06:54, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
WikiGnomes can start AFDs, but anons cannot. If you feel strongly enough about it, you'll create an account, which is more anonymous anyways. I still don't see why you think a revert war with "a band of meatpuppets" is going to be productive. - BanyanTree 07:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I have nothing to say and I'm saying it

Who said these words?? Please help me out. I'm doing an assignment on JOhn Cage! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.81.34.57 (talk) 16:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Did you try google?--chaser - t 02:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes I did, but I'm just not sure he was the first to say it. It has come to my min that I might be confusing it with Socrate "The only thing I know, is that I know nothing". I've decided not to pursue it anyway. But thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.81.34.57 (talk) 22:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Mindless Merging?

Coming across a particular page, I seem to have encountered a person who is on something of a crusade to merge as many individual tv episode articles into less informative summaries on episode list pages. I see more than a few objections to what he is doing on his talk page as well. While I'm all for improving wikipedia, that really doesn't seem to be his goal.....--Carterhawk 03:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Always assume good faith; this may be a thoroughly-thought-out quest. It could be that this unnamed editor feels that we are getting into an absurd situation, where every episode of every American television show made since circa 1990 is getting its own article; and is on a noble quest to cure this sad mess. --Orange Mike 04:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandal

I came across this vandal User talk:38.112.113.3. I reverted one instance but there seems to be many more. Could someone else go thru the history and deal with it. Cheers Nil Einne 16:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks like they have all been dealt with. Adrian M. H. 10:54, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

unwonted sense equal nonsense ?

lets review this edition 24.15.123.48 08:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

  • What is unwonted sense? I can see how the section "PCT is interdisciplinary conception" lacked neutrality or can be considered promotional of the theory. I'm less sure about "other early suporters of continuity". Try asking User:Dbachmann for details. - Mgm| 10:41, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

google books links

Is there some policy on including links to google books in citations (like Bals des victimes does, for instance)? I think I read somewhere that this was forbidden for some reason.P4k 21:54, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Two questions

1. I recently edited Travis Hansen. After the editing the external links and categories doesn't show on the page (the page isn't categorized on the categories associated). 2.I wont to merge the the articles Gorgias (general) and Gorgias (Syrian general), both discussing the same person. I suggested a merge ages ago, no one complied or any admin obliged. --ArnoldPettybone 20:19, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

The problem with Travis Hansen is the closing tag for the reference <ref/> should be </ref>. Keith D 20:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
The merge certainly makes sense to me as they are indeed about the same person. So if you want to merge them and no objections have been raised for months, get to it ;-) FYI, suggesting a merge doesn't mean someone will comply nor will an admin usually go do it...usually its the person who proposes the merge who will end up being the one to do it. Check the merge info if you need help on how to do it. From the naming conventions, it seems like Gorgias (general) should be the name used with Gorgias (Syrian general) merged into it and set up as a redirect. Collectonian 20:39, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Finding deleted articles

Hello! Is there any way i can recover a deleted Misplaced Pages article?

Thanks

please email at ej_orlando@Hotmail.com if you know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.64.30 (talk) 00:27, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

admin creating a page

I’ve been tagging bad pages for CSD for a while now with no problems. Then I came on to Cars.com which i believe falls under A7 guide lines for CSD. Well it seem that the person that created it was an Admin. My question is does this fall under A7 for CSD and is the creator of that page allowed to remove the tag (and say it’s not a CSD) or is there some other process that needs to be done. I personally fell this admin is kind of abusing his powers and not going by policy, because he is the creator of the page. (look at the comments made on the history part of the page). So again does this fall und CSD A7 and is the creator of the page who is an admin allowed to remove the delete tag, or does he have to do the same thing as anyone else who creates a possibly bad page? Yourname 00:50, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

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