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Hello, Rotational, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Sockpuppetry case

You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/Paul venter for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page.Template:Do not delete Rkitko 16:40, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

accusation of sockpuppetry

Rotational (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I have been blocked from contributing to Misplaced Pages at the request of Rkitko because he feels that I am a sockpuppet of Paul Venter for the following two reasons: 1. My account was opened at about the time that PaulVenter was blocked and 2. I placed an image which I had uploaded on the left of an article, citing a Manual of Style guideline. I feel outraged by this block, since I have done nothing to justify such a step, but on the contrary have contributed substantially to WP.

Decline reason:

You didn't simply place an image and cite a guideline...you used the exact same wording as the other user: Paul ventner , you . The sockpuppet report goes into more detail. Denied. — IrishGuy 19:53, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

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The two references are quite clearly NOT the "exact same wording":

• ref#1 "(Image placed left - Manual of Style/Images/Right-facing images)"
• ref#2 "(Image on left - see MoS/Images/Right-facing images)" Rotational 20:23, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh. Well. Since you didn't write "placed" the second time you clearly must not be a sock. IrishGuy 20:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I truly don't need your sarcasm or strange idea of the meaning of "exact" - I have not been guilty of any WP offence and now have to contend with trumped-up charges and your rather obvious prejudice and puerile attempts at wit. Please find someone to review this block who does not display your churlish attitude. Rotational 21:39, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Dear Rotational,

With the consent of user:Rlevse, and per your note on my talk page, I'm looking into this situation. You can post your comments right here on this talk page, and I will see them. I have checked the page revisions, and they look very similar. Are you sure you aren't any of these other users, aside from User:Physicist68? If you are the same person as these other accounts, I can have the other accounts blocked and you can use solely this account. Only one Misplaced Pages account is allowed per user. It looks like you have many good contributions to the encyclopedia, and I want to assume good faith, but there are many similar editing styles between all these accounts. I am not seeing any abuse from this account, so with Rlevse's permission, I'd unblock, but I need to know which accounts are yours so we can get this straightened out. Firsfron of Ronchester 01:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Dear Firs,

Thank you for your objective comments - it gives one faith in Misplaced Pages again. I have spent my time while blocked, going through the contributions from Paul Venter and Raasgat. They were prolific contributors to WP and reading through their discussion pages, seem to have been antagonised by petty politics. Perhaps it's not my place to say so, but it does seem as if WP needs a panel of experienced editors who can undo some of the damage done by tactless and ill-considered blocks. Again, looking at the contributions of Paul Venter and Raasgat, they have a large number of articles with a South African connection and have similar interests to my own - I have been a member of the Mountain Club of South Africa for 45 years and am a keen amateur botanist (I think Paul Venter's articles on botanical painters are excellent). To summarise, I obviously can't say whether there is a connection between Paul Venter and Raasgat, but Rkitko's accusation of my being a sockpuppet is based on purely circumstantial evidence with possibly a touch of vindictiveness (see Raasgat's annoyance with Rkitko over stalking and taxoboxes). Rotational (talk) 07:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Rotational,

Assuming good faith, I am unblocking this account, with my apologies. It is clear you have some very good contributions to Misplaced Pages and I'd hate to lose your continued work on the project. I know it seems to you that Rlevse made a "tactless and ill-considered block", but he was attempting to act in the best interest of the encyclopedia during a dispute.

I will ask that you attempt to follow the guidelines set out at WP:MOS (already linked on your userpage) concerning headings (WP:HEAD). If you need assistance, I would be happy to help out or give advice. My user talk page is user talk:Firsfron and it is always open to any good-faith editor. I would also ask that you avoid confrontations with the user involved in your dispute.

I note you have an excellent knowledge of wiki mark-up and biological nomenclature (italics on generic and specific names). Misplaced Pages needs more editors able to follow Manual of Style and nomenclature conventions. I am glad to know your faith in Misplaced Pages is restored. Edit disputes and mistaken blocks will happen, and I look forward to your further contributions to the project. Firsfron of Ronchester 14:21, 20 November 2007 (UTC)