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Guidelines for my talk page: Be civil at all times; Fix any mistakes I make; Give me at least 24 hours to a few days to respond. I edit Misplaced Pages sporadically. Unless you have an openly stated policy on conversation, or request for me to reply here, I will reply on your page. Please do not put substituted warnings on my talk page - I have edited Misplaced Pages for years, mostly as an unregistered user. Such warnings are condescending and will be removed. Any messages should be in English, and as clear and as legible as possible. As long as I know what you're saying to me, it's okay. If you have a request for me, please be aware that, unless dictated by policy or behavioural guideline, a member of the Arbitration Committee or Wikimedia Foundation (either paid employee or advisory board), or Jimbo Wales, I am not bound by your request, but will take it into consideration. I reserve the right to remove any threads or revert any edits that I percieve to be in bad faith. Violations of these guidelines may result in your post being removed or ignored.

Debt-based monetary system

Thanks for your note. I'm actually mostly offline for a few days, so my lack of activity is not an indication of anything more than busy-ness. Appreciate your efforts on this.--Gregalton (talk) 05:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Your talk page

I tried to move the guidelines thing to no avail; I got it to budge to the right a bit, but then it disintegrated and spewed it's contents all over the page. I think there's some conflicting code or something that's causing a problem, but I can't figure out what... Master of Puppets 23:15, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Interests

What are your interests? I have a few articles I've been wanting to get to Featured Article status. For instance, Universal Declaration of Human Rights, free market environmentalism, instant-runoff voting, and private highway. I also would like to see workplace conflict get to good article status. The latter would be worth a cookie or kitten if nothing else, and the others would be worth a barnstar I'm sure, or at least a userbox that says you've contributed to x number of featured articles. Sarsaparilla (talk) 04:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Mainly politics and economics. Any articles you mentioned would be fine, although Free-market environmentalism may have some POV issues (it looks good, ATM) and in Private highway the "support" and "oppose" sections are just silly. There's no need for political commentary in such an article. Zenwhat (talk) 04:22, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

When we get to peer review and FAC, I'm sure any of those articles would get a lot of criticism. They are all in need of major rewriting/expansion to become featured. Sarsaparilla (talk) 05:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I've made some minor changes to the UDHR page and overhauled the template at the bottom. Zenwhat (talk) 17:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. A basic problem with the article is that it has a lot of bulleted lists instead of paragraphs; those will need to be converted in order to make FA. Sarsaparilla (talk) 02:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Debt-based monetary system

Hi. Another user reported your repeated reversions of Debt-based monetary system as a 3RR violation. I have declined to block you because one of your reverts was of a bot so it was not technically a violation. Please understand, however, that this is NOT blanket permission to revert three times in each 24 hour period. You have reverted to your preferred version a number of times and it can be considered disruptive. I strongly encourage you to continue to discuss the issue on the talk page and not to revert again. Thank you. --B (talk) 00:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

• Note also that an edit you dispute is absolutely not vandalism, as you characterised it. To describe another editor's good faith edits as vandalism is incivil and not acceptable. Please discuss disputed changed on the article's discussion page. Guy (Help!) 10:09, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Other articles

Can you please suggest what to do with the Shake (cannabis) article? It recently had an unsourced-template birthday (tagged since December 2006). You might also want to take a look at the Blunt (cigar) page as well. Coccyx Bloccyx (talk) 18:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I can move the article to Marijuana cigar if you think that is a good idea. I too am having difficulty finding sources to document which term is most popularly used. Coccyx Bloccyx (talk) 21:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I understand what you mean. Also related to this is Smoking rolling papers -- this one is half original research and half corporate-spam, egad. Coccyx Bloccyx (talk) 19:18, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Tasks

Hi Zenwhat,

I saw your note about barnstars. I'm sorry you haven't seen any. Of course, thousands of very good contributors never receive a barnstar, so you are in good company.

If you are still interested in tasks to improve Misplaced Pages, I could easily come up with a list, but I don't really know where your interests lie, aside from (I guess) politics. Coming up with a random list probably won't work for you. Or are you really willing to work on anything? Firsfron of Ronchester 00:50, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

"I will work on anything, provided it doesn't require me going to the library." Oh, man. The library is our friend. :) Firsfron of Ronchester 01:00, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Chocolate Thai

Hi, have you had a chance to peruse my response from yesterday at the article's discussion section? There are many sources describing Buddhists using drugs (in the times of yore) and I think these might have influenced the general public into this mistaken belief. Also, you write:

And this edit seems like weasel words:

at least according to the author signed as "DJ Short", in a publication in "Cannabis Culture magazine"

I don't think you're referring to the Misplaced Pages's definition of weasel words. My edit was, in fact, an attempt to satisfy your critique of leaving the preceding statement as "objective", by only referred to the publication. My intent was to emphasize that this statement is of the author of the article. Feel free to delete the fragment of the sentence you cite above, if for whatever reason you find it not objective (but clearly it has nothing to do with weasel words).

Per your comments on the magazine's forum - while I admire your passion for accuracy and your will to educate them, the editor's response seems quite reasonable. After all, in many cases they are referring somebody's words (in interviews, books, etc.), and they did admit the haikus were not "real" (although you should realize, that all haikus in English are to some extent fake. There is only a traditionalized form of translation and writing them in Englih, but it is pretty far from the original Japanese versification for language reasons, and also there are so-called contemporary free-form haikus, which are close to free verse poetry. But I don't think it matters that much).

Credibility of this magazine as a source is, in my view, very limited and I would not learn haiku structure from them. I do believe, though, that if there is any magazine that can professionally write something about different kinds and strains of marijuana distributed 20 years ago, that'll probably be them. NRA publications also have limited credibility - but if I wanted to know about gun subtleties, I would assume them to be a useful source. It is their core business, after all - and while being ignorant about haikus will not take readers away from a cannabis magazine, mistakes and slips in articles on marijuana actually may. Being accurate about existence of strains is almost the only thing they really have to be truthful about (and of course you are right that they quite likely will minimize and belittle the medically proved negative effects of cannabis intake). Pundit|utter 23:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)