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Someone commented "What happened to NPOV?" I've read this and the other revisions, and can't decide whether its too pro or too anti Yankees (and I know which side the authors loyalties lie.) Whats up with it, exactly?

There were several points where there was plenty of opinion, e.g. "... well-paid asses ..." "... a team with heart, ... no heritage ... "


Good call on those. You're right. GWO

"... restored that team to brilliance ..." Also, the word "dominance" seemed to me to be awfully strong. Feel free to edit that back if you feel otherwise. -- Taral

Much as it pains me, I think "brilliance" and "dominance" does fairly describe some periods of their existence... GWO

Excuse me...what's the source for their having started in MINNEAPOLIS? As I understand it,the Yanks were originally the Indianapolis farm team of the Cincinnati Reds,and moved from there to Baltimore. Louis Epstein/le@put.com/12.144.5.2

Trying to track down anything about possible origins Minneapolis, I haven't found anything. Yes the Western League had a team there, but I've seen no evidence so far that that team was moved to Baltimore. -- rbs, 2004-02-09 01:32 UTC
After more reading today, I can't see that the Western League's Minneapolis team became the Orioles/Yankees. A check of the player roster for the 1901 Baltimore Orioles (baseball-reference.com) shows no overlap with the Minneapolis Millers of 1900. Most of the Orioles seemed to have been raided from National League teams (no surprise). Also, a biography of Ban Johnson in the Journal of Sports History simply indicates that the five-year Western League Agreement expired at the end of 1900 and the league simply re-organized, dropping three teams and adding three. Then again (opening a new can of worms) it may be fair to say that the Highlanders of 1903 were not the Orioles of 1901-1902; I could see some sense in arguing that one team simply ceased to exist at the same time as another was established. - Rbs 00:12, 2004 Mar 6 (UTC)

removal of hyperbole

The article claimed that 26 Championships in 80 years was unchallenged in U.S. sports. Well, the Celtics won 16 championships in 30 years. That is a better rate. Rather than leave the issue up for debate, I removed the claim from the artlce. Kingturtle 09:05, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Andy's Hawkin's Losing No-Hitter

More information is available at the following Retrosheet URL: http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B07010CHA1990.htm. The runs were scored in the top of the 8th on three errors and a walk. colinjohnson 01:00, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Apiece

Are people incapable of using a dictionary?

  apiece
      adv : to or from every one of two or more (considered
            individually); "they received $10 each" [syn: {each}, {to
            each one}, {for each one}, {from each one}]

FFS . . . Varitek 19:22, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Anti-Yankees

It is amazing how many hate the Yankees that are not Red Sox fans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=New_York_Yankees&diff=6765453&oldid=6763472.
Have we forgotten the team of Ruth and Gehrig? 170.35.224.63 15:48, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

i hate yankees.

I HATE THE YANKEES please don;t take this personally, I'm a die-hard red sox fan!!! WE WON IN 2004!!!!- bostonbabe


I hate the yakees too but then I'm just a Mets fan who's tired of yankee fans going after the mets, EVERYTIME THE YANKEES LOSE, which happens quite a lot these days

Curse of Clay Bellinger

According to the VfD debate for Curse of Clay Bellinger that article should be merged somewhere here. Here is the complete text, I have redirected that page to this one for the time being, an someone please do the merge in the appropriate place? Many thanks. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 12:51, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Added a discussion of theories for the Yankees' lack of world series titles since 2000 to 21st century section, including the "Curse". Will move biographical details for Bellinger to his page User:erall 08:28, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC).

The Curse of Clay Bellinger is a tongue-in-cheek explanation proposed by sportswriter Larry Mahnken for the New York Yankees' failure to win the World Series since 2000. By analogy with the Curse of the Bambino, Mahnken points to the departure of utility player Clay Bellinger from the Yankee roster following the 2001 season and asserts that the Yankees will never again win the World Series until either they make amends to Bellinger or they win the championship anyway. The tautology is part of the joke.

Bellinger, meanwhile, played for the Greek baseball team in the 2004 Olympics. Bellinger is an American born with Greek grandparents, like most of the rest of the team.

External Link

ALS

Does anyone have information about ALS (Lou Gherig's Disease???)

See ALS, or http://www.als-ma.org/curtspitch/ for Curt (Schilling)'s Pitch For ALS.. (this explains the silver "K ALS" on his boot during the Literal Red Sock games in the ALCS/WS, for those who may have wondered) -Rethcir 04:28, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

Retired numbers and Mariano Rivera

I know that Mariano Rivera is the last major leaguer to wear number 42, because of the grandfather clause that allows him to continue to wear it even though it is retired on all teams to honor Jackie Robinson, but what if, in the future the Yankees decide that Mariano's career was distinguished enough that he deserves to have his number retired? Would we have a situation like Yogi Berra and Bill Dickey where 2 players have the same number retired? Rogerd 17:08, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Current Lineups

Are you kidding me? Current lineups complete with 15-day dl? How about we just link to an external source instead?

  • If people want to keep it up to date, there's nothing wrong with it. Kingturtle 23:25, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Some of these team sites are nurtured and fed by their fans like they were newborn chicks: not just with the rosters, but with current won-lost record, a running commentary on the flow of the current season, etc. Since it's only baseball, not brain surgery, I don't see any harm. But if it gets to the point where fans start posting the pitch-by-pitch of today's game, you might want to draw the line. I'm sure the wikipedia folks have some upper bound on disk space. Wahkeenah 17:52, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"Sucky" etc.

I've been skeptical of these entries I've seen seeing, that various American League teams derived from obscure teams in the Western League. The White Sox entry says they originated in St. Paul, which squares with my understanding, but I'm not so sure about others, like the Red Sox and the Orioles-Yankees. More research is needed. It's like saying the Boston-Milwaukee-Atlanta Braves began as the Cincinnati Red Stockings: somewhat yes, somewhat no. However, there is no question that the Yankees began as the 1901-02 Orioles.

The problem I have with embittered Yankees fans describing their team as "sucky" is that there is a lack of a standard for what constitutes "sucky". The Yanks are just a few games below .500, which may be "sucky" for them, but would be pretty good if you were a fan of a team that other teams feast upon, such as the Kansas City Royales With Cheese or the Tampa Bay Devils Food Cakes. So a specific won-lost record can't be described as "sucky" by itself, but only in relation to expectations. It sounds like some SABRmetrician needs to come up with a "suckiness index" to objectively determine whether a given team at a given time is "sucky" or is merely playing at its natural level.

d:) Wahkeenah 17:40, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Main Rivals?

Do we even need to list "main rivals"? I've never seen listings anywhere on MLB.com about teams and having main rivals. Rivalries are mainly for the fans. Some of the rivals listed in Misplaced Pages are not even in the same league (AL/NL) as the Yankees. Since there are no "official" listings, the main rivals in the article are from a person's/fan's point of view and opinion. The section was started by a guest.

"Main Rivals: Boston Red Sox, Baltimore Orioles, Los Angeles Dodgers, and the New York Mets mostly, and every other team in baseball in general."