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I've deleted a welcome message and several posts from someone upset that I removed links to her site that were inappropriately added to several pages. If you feel like reading those, they are in the history.

Please add new comments below.

DreamGuy 01:38, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)

I have archived some comments. Click this link if you want to see them.

Gwine

Thanks for looking over Scipiocoon's contributions. I'm bothered by the casual use of words and phrases like "darkish dialect" and "smoky entertainment." I'm at work, and can't roam the Wiki as freely as I can at home. Glad someone else is watching out. Let me know if there's any way I can help. Joyous 13:36, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

Ripper victim

If I remember correctly Gordon is a new member. He might not be aware of the policies regarding moves. And I could be wrong, but I think he hasn't had all that much time to respond. He was busy editing the reference sections. I'll talk to him and change the link as soon as the page is moved. ] 21:59, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, he's new. He's been going through and changing it to Catharine other places too even after seeing my concern on his talk page at least (as he responded to it, though he may have missed the explanation). I have no problem with waiting for it to be cleared up, but then if he starts hunting down all mentions of "Catherine" on other pages (suspects, famous prostitutes, people famous in death, etc.) it's just that much more to undo later. The article was previously on an article with the correct spelling, which he has since forwarded to the new one he made, so would we have to have the original deleted and the new one moved? DreamGuy 22:04, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

I've changed the title on the Ripper letters template, technically speaking the postcard wasn't a letter, but you're right. The title was misleading. I'll keep an I on the Catharine links and see how it goes. ] 08:37, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)

George Chapman

Hi DreamGuy;

Thanks for your message regarding Dr. Thomas Neill Cream. Thanks for fixing the page up a bit too with regards to my misspelling of his name.

I've recently added an entry for George Chapman, the Polish guy listed as a possible Ripper suspect (it needed a Disambiguation because it's also the same name as some poet or other.) I did not put a huge amount about the case because I only have one book that mentions him and I can't find too much on the web other than those that list a brief description of him under the heading of 'Ripper suspects'. I'll see what else I can find to expand it a bit. I also put in a note about how he is considered a suspect by Frederick Abberline but how he is also disregarded by some as a suspect because it is unlikely a nutcase would go from ripping women open to just poisoning girlfriends. Obviously you are more than welcome to add to the cross-referencing between Chapman and Jack T. Ripper; I figure myself quite knowledgable on most things serial-killery but not so much on historical cases, so you sound like the best person to inject such Ripper-related info into the Chapman article.

Take care. User:Robert Mercer, December 23

Ads

There is Misplaced Pages:External links, which also links to Misplaced Pages:Spam#External link spamming.

When an administrator goes to the User contributors , or difference between revisions (clicking "compare selected versions" in the page history), there appears next to each edit which is still the most recent of each article a "rollback" button which undones the edit and creates an automated message.

I'll take a look at that edit history. Hyacinth 04:32, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

way too unnecessarily specific

Yes, you're probably right. Sorry. In my defense, though, I'd like to point out that I changed it from "US$10", which I find a particularly horrid hieroglyph, up there with "and/or". De gustibus... –Hajor 15:06, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No defense needed, I was just explaining my edit. I would agree with you that US$ is generally not something an encyclopedia article should have, and in cases where it's necessary to specify your way would be better. DreamGuy 15:28, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

Beltway Sniper Attacks

I was working on red links for Bushmaster Firearms, Inc. and was also in the Beltway Sniper article. I understand your points, and will stand clear this time. SBTC (Sorry 'bout that chief). Thanks for your work to improve these articles and links. Mark in Richmond. Vaoverland 15:21, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

Let me respond over on your page... DreamGuy 15:31, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

Brady Campaign and Brady Center

I felt that is was important to get the information into the sniper story that some action was taken to recover something for the victims and hold the gun dealer responsible. Bushmaster will probably be more cautious in selecting who will distribute their guns also.

These are apparently two separate entities, both still in existence. They have different origins the were brought together with Brady names if I am reading the website correctly. From this website:

"The Brady Campaign works to enact and enforce sensible gun laws, regulations and public policies through grassroots activism, electing progun control public officials and increasing public awareness of gun violence."

"The Brady Center works to reform the gun industry and educate the public about gun violence through litigation and grassroots mobilization, and works to enact and enforce sensible regulations to reduce gun violence including regulations governing the gun industry."

It sounds like the Legal Action Project could be involved in both, but mostly the latter. They probably have different funding and while the goals seem to be similar, in the political and lobbying worlds they would find political friends in varying camps.

See if you agree: http://www.bradycenter.org/about/

I'll fix the red in Brady article. If I can get more information, i will write a short bio to fit the red linked owner of Bull's Eye. Mark Vaoverland 16:25, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on naming conventions. That is a weak area for me. I wasn't involved with the Brady Campaign article, and i didn't popup when I created the Brady Center etc article. Are you going to work on it? Its unfamilar terrority to me. Vaoverland 17:44, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

RE: James Brady didn't found Brady Center or Brady Campaign, makes sense, since each was older org predating his injury which they renamed in his honor (and to gain better publicity, no doubt). Vaoverland 19:20, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

Brady again

Sorry about the duplicate int link. During the night, someone working from an IP address relocated his place of birth to Daytona Beach, Florida and I was in there fixing that (after verifying that Centralia, Illinois was accurate). Vaoverland 18:06, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)

"Image:Akhenaton.jpg"

Thanks for calling my attention to my error in tagging Image:Akhenaton.jpg. I have no doubt you are correct. I'll try to be more careful in the future. —Vespristiano 07:16, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The High Road

I'm impressed at how you're handling the harassment on your talk page. You seem to be staying calm while dealing with others who are acting childishly. Joyous 22:48, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

Pazuzu

Why remove the TV section/Futura reference from the Pazuzu entry? It seems just as relevent as all of the other pop culture references. ((Also, how do you sign something in MediaWiki?)) (was unsigned, but by User:Troublekit)

I'm replying to you there on the talk page. To sign something type four ~ symbols in a row. DreamGuy 06:04, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Troublekit 07:33, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Harpy

Good work on the Harpy article man :) FrancisTyers 00:42, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll see if I have time to round up an image or two for that also. DreamGuy 02:27, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)

Medusa Edit

Wow that was a pretty dry edit to the Medusa page. I agree it needs a lot more and there are so many versions of the tale that some facts can get skewed but, really--a little literary voice doesn't hurt. 16:50, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Hi... encyclopedias typically don't have "literary voice," if what you mean by that is the part that was there about fountaining blood from a decapitated stump of a neck or whatever it was that used to say. It's like they say on Dragnet: "Just the facts, ma'am." DreamGuy 01:39, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

Mythology is an oral tradition---not so much about hard and fast "facts". It's true there are some basic things that should be adhered to, but a little embellishment in the form of strong description doesn't interfere with that. Part of the fun is the gore. 17:23, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

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You are talking about styles of storytelling when you should be concerned with encyclopedia style. We're here to give information about topics, not to emulate their style of writing. I would also disagree strongly that "gore" is a typical part of mythology, as very often those details are entirely glossed over. DreamGuy 17:52, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

John Doe

Why'd you edit out my line? I know the show didn't last long or was very well known, but at least two of the others listed weren't that famous either. unsigned, but left by anon user User:83.195.7.236

Mentioning the failed TV program John Doe on the Jack the Ripper page just because one solitary episode claiming to be based upon some facts from the Ripper case but botched them all is pointless subtrivia that doesn't belong on the page, as per my explanation in the edit comments. Two of other the others may not be that famous but they are considerably more famous than that... And it may be that some of the others were removed by me but put back, it's possible I may have to go back and delete more. DreamGuy 07:56, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)

Medusa

hi DreamGuy, i've answered on Medusa on my talk page. Thanks. Xah Lee 11:00, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

3rr Gabriel

I personally dislike blocks for 3RR violations, never supported them in the first place, and think they are overused. That said, they are policy, and I do block people for 3RR violations although I do so very rarely. I only blocked him because I wanted him to stop making irresponsible edits to the 9/11 article. He has stopped. Since the block served its purpose, I have removed it.

In general, the only good thing about 3RR blocks is that the threat of them prevents really lame edit wars. Occasionally they must actually be imposed for the threat to remain credible.

3RR blocks do nothing to improve the collegial atmosphere or social workings of Misplaced Pages, other than be preventing edit wars. Long-term blocks for repeat 3RR violations are unlikely to be supported by the admin community as a whole, and if they are, are most likely to result in sock puppets and so forth. Long-term blocks of people who are making a genuine effort to contribute (however misguided they may be) are a last resort that is used when an editor has exhausted the community's patience.

The Uninvited Co., Inc. 13:32, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Request for comments

I just placed a request for comment on Gabrielsimon's behavior. Please read it and sign it if you agree. --Pablo D. Flores 13:48, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Deletion of comments

DreamGuy, why are you mad at me now? I thought we agreed to put the past behind us. : ( Dbraceyrules 23:47, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

In this recent edit you specifically mention your intent to never side with me on anything I ever do here. You've admitted that you are edit warring based upon your conflict with me and not based upon content of articles. You have once agains proven bad faith in your dealings here. You posted that rude comment, admitted your actions are based upon revenge, and then you come here asking why I am mad? It's because every time you claim that you want to let the past be the past you go elsewhere and continue your harassment and edit warring. DreamGuy 00:34, July 24, 2005 (UTC)

Actually that was before I came up and said we can put the past aside. Sorry. Dbraceyrules 00:54, 24 July 2005 (UTC)