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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Angela (talk | contribs) at 19:54, 17 December 2003 (Palestinian views of the peace process). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Hey Jack :) I hope you like the place and choose to stay.

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Just a point, it's not a good idea to remove comments on talk pages. If you want to edit the article, you should do so at Anal sex and not at Talk:Anal sex, which is where users discuss the actual article itself! :)

Keep contributing! :) Dysprosia 07:38, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC)

don't be shy!

Read Misplaced Pages:Be bold in updating pages :) Kingturtle 03:11, 9 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Jean Chretien

I don't think that's very comical at all, if you are referring to the Bell's palsy. Of course, I know what you are actually trying to say, and in that case I don't think that's really appropriate for an encyclopedia... Adam Bishop 03:34, 11 Nov 2003 (UTC)

short question

am I supposed to parlay w you here, or on your discussion page, or what? Actually, I think the cretien talk page may be best, so as to involve a wider discussion

Eckernförde

There was nothing wrong with it, that's why I was trying to undelete it. RickK 19:04, 22 Nov 2003 (UTC)

AKFD

It was only the lower case version (AIDS kills fags dead) that was deleted. AIDS Kills Fags Dead still exists. There was a vote going on since July, and the most recent vote came up with 89% in support of deletion. I can't see anything at Talk:Anti-gay slogan relating to this particular redirect being needed. As a slogan, it would be capitalised, so there would seem little benefit in also keeping the lower case variant of it as well. If you want to contest the deletion, you could do so at Talk:AKFD/redirect, but you may want to read the previous discussion on it first which you can find on that page and in the various archives linked to from that page. Angela 03:41, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I've replied to your point at Talk:AKFD/redirect. Angela 03:59, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. I just tend to get a bit defensive about deletions I make. Regarding how deletions occur, you could check out Misplaced Pages:Deletion policy. Undeletions usually go through Misplaced Pages:Votes for undeletion but with something that has had as much discussion at this, it's best to raise it on that Talk:AKFD/redirect page before going to VfU I think. Regarding the search - it's been switched off for a few months because the servers can't handle it. I'm not sure what you mean by can I give you a link to the "wiki resouce problems". Maybe the bug reports on sourceforge? If you mean you want to help fix them, then there is a mailing list and a section on Meta for developers. Hope that helps. Angela 07:32, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Dear Jack, i understand you concern and i'll leave a message in the Conflict users page regarding my red pencil. All the best Muriel Victoria 08:26, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC) Actually i'm not leaving a message in wikc :). The discussion is long and nobody will notice it anyway. I did it because i dont like seeing Ed Poor or other users being called names, no mather what. Any way, i left a message and if you check the Page history, you'll see that the removals are easy to find by the comment. Cheers, Muriel

VfD header on close votes

Hi Jack -- A lot of us (myself included) have concerns about how much attention gets focused on Votes for deletion, and that there are a lot of negative, anti-wiki aspects to the page -- despite its seeming necessity. Personally, I don't like the idea of an ad-hoc "make it so" deletion squad, and don't feel it's appropriate that the page itself has people listed near the top who can be called upon to push a vote over the edge it it's close. I decided not to join in the mini edit war over removing the message, but I may still offer my two cents. For more on my feelings on the whole issue, see deletionism, inclusionism, and especially this post I made on the mailing list. -- Thanks, BCorr ¤ Брайен 23:49, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. As you wrote, I have detected a certain elitist atmosphere at the wikipedia where some feel they and their vote (or opinion, etc...) are more equal than those of others, and that the opinions of some are not needed at all ;) I want to say that I'm sorry if what I said above sounded elitist, and I do wish to be clear that I don't in any way feel that your opinions or contributions are less important than anyone else's. I'm addressing what seems to me to be a completely different issue. I'm opposed to what I see as a group of people (and it doesn't matter to me who is part of that group) that's called upon to delete articles in case of a close vote. I might feel differently if those listed were listed "to solicit our opinions/votes" or something of that sort. But I can't get away from the feeling that it would function as a sort of "hit squad" in case of close votes. I hope this is a bit more clear than what I wrote earlier.... Thanks, BCorr ¤ Брайен 03:39, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Aha! I didn't (of course) make the comment you're referring to, but I do remember it. Thanks for the explanation and the clarification. BCorr ¤ Брайен 04:03, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

VfD header redux

Jack, re your comments on Conflicts between users... I think you may be getting paranoid over nothing. You want a place where you can be notified that a deletion may be taking place... but that is precisely what the Votes for Deletion is for... no-one can go around deleting articles without their being five days for people to object. At the end of five days, someone just takes the pulse of whatever discussion is going on there and acts accordingly. Your opinion definitely will be respected.

Also I don't think having a notification list is a good idea. Why should some people be on it and not others? Shouldn't someone interested in deletion issues be reading Votes for Deletion? It's hardly fair to expect someone else to read it for you and then come trotting along to let you know something interesting is happening (there is always something interesting happening!). Just my 2p. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 08:39, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Hi Jack. At VfD you suggested merging Palestinian views of the peace process somewhere rather than deleting it. Can you let me know where you actually wanted it merged so this can be done and the page removed from VfD. Thanks. Angela. 19:54, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)