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Americans in the Spanish Civil War

Hey, that removal of the info about the Abe Lincoln Brigade from the lead, actually WAS explained, and it kind of makes sense. The IP noted that by adding it there, the article becomes a bit US-centric. Otherwise, we would need to add notes about every nation that had volunteers show up for the fighting. The info is included further down in the article, so really doesn't need to be in the lead. Murderbike (talk) 02:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

It was kind of awkwardly given in a section of the talk page. It was unsigned (until SineBot took care of it), and in an older section, so totally easy to miss. Cheers! Murderbike (talk) 03:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

A note would definitely be warranted, leaving notes for IPs always feels fruitless to me, but ya never know. Murderbike (talk) 06:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Aphrodite's Child

re Progressive rock - I'd argue they are notable. The band produced Vangelis and Demis Roussos, and their album "666" is considered a prog-rock classic, mostly for it's weirdness. Is there a problem if they go back in, particularly as the only 1960s Greek prog band? --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 02:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks, I'll revert & wikivlink it. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 02:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Burroughs

Thanks for the note. I just realized that the Canadian band mentioned seems to be different than Dead Fingers Talk (band) which is an American group and has its own article. If the band's existence can be verified and it isn't just an amateur group, I think we can get away with mentioning it in the article, though it probably isn't notable enough to warrant a separate article. 23skidoo (talk) 15:58, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

At last, I could use your help

Hey RepublicanJacobite,

This is Rimbaud 2--the guy who you asked to source my info for Bob Dylan being influenced by T.S. Eliot. You told me that, if I needed your help, not to hesitate to ask.

Well, here it goes.

I recently created a long-overdue entry for the poet Raegan Butcher--who is most well known for his association with the anarchist group Crimethinc (they published his first two poetry books): http://en.wikipedia.org/Raegan_Butcher . It is my first ever Wiki entry (that I created that is).

I think I did a pretty swell job writing and editing it. I plan to continue editing and adding new links and info (and perhaps a picture). If you would care to, would you please look it over? It's currently a stub, so it won't take long. Edit it if you wish, or give me advice/instruction, or whatever.

Take care, and thanks alot man.

Yours Truly,Rimbaud 2 (talk) 01:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Words of Advice: William S. Burroughs On the Road

Can you cast your eye over the above new page for cats etc. Opiumjones 23 (talk) 02:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice and help. Perhaps link as needed. Opiumjones 23 (talk) 03:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

It is worthwhile and well shot. A real time piece with good interviews with Giorno and Jimmy G.~Plus guided tour of the bunker with Giorno. Thanks for your edits. Opiumjones 23 (talk) 03:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Trigun

Hello again!

I don't actually know much about Trigun, I've only ever seen 1 or 2 episodes. But it seems to me that it might be a little bit of a category-straddler. From the description, it seems to be a "Science fiction Western" that happens to take place on another planet (Gunsmoke), making it by a very literal reading of the definition, happening "in space" thereby a Space Western. A conundrum indeed. I would tend to put it SciFi Western because, as I understand, it doesn't actually deal with space. Yes? - Revolving Bugbear 22:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I will be the first to admit that I know nothing about anime, so all I can go by is the article. This seems to very clearly indicate that it is a sci-fi western, and not a "space" western, per se. Of course, as you say, there is no reason, necessarily, that it cannot be both. I will defer to your knowledge and opinion on this matter, though. Do what you think is best. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 22:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't trying to second-guess your revert. I agree with it, in principle -- the show does have, from what I know of it, what I would consider a "Western setting". I just followed the link over to the article this time because I've seen Trigun pop up on the Space Western list several times now, and I wondered if maybe we weren't maybe missing something on this one. But I would tend to agree with you that the fact that it happens to take place not on earth does not make it a "space" anything. I just wanted to see if you had any thoughts on the matter. If not, then forget I asked ;) - Revolving Bugbear 22:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't get me started...

Get the email I sent you earlier? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 01:06, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm....sent three hours ago. Well anyway, check the first footnote. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 01:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I thought you'd enjoy it! Damn those heartless Provo bastards..... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 02:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not like the British Army were shrinking violets either.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 02:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

You'd be right on base regardless of what you said. This is all you need to quote under the circumstances, source it or don't bother. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 02:58, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Could have been worse..... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Did you get the last email I sent you? Sent within the last hour? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Lessman

I see you have voted at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Thomas Lessman. I found three reliable sources that establish notability for Thomas Lessman as a political candidate. Please see the article and afd discussion, and change your recommendation if you desire. TableManners 05:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Haymarket

Hi. I understand why you rm'd the comments, I've explained why I put them back over on my talk page. Thanks for speaking up about this. Gwen Gale (talk) 21:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Flight of the Earls

Thanks, it still needs a bit of tweaking perhaps. Your name RJ covers all the angles...Red Hurley (talk) 21:56, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Retro-futurism

Thanks for the note! I didn't take offense though, it's reasonable to request sources on these, people do tend to put a lot of questionable examples on the list. Hypnosifl (talk) 17:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

List of surrealist films

Yo, I've changed about as much as I'd like to List of surrealist films without removing any content or searching for sources. Feel free to do with it as you like, I'll try and help out later.скоморохъ 05:00, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Literary Punk Genres

Why'd you undo some of the punk genres listed in literary punk genres? They are just as verifiable as any of the other "genres" on the list. Perhaps the whole article should be removed if editors such as you will be picking and choosing which of the genres they like best to keep in the article. As of now the entire article has no citations or verifiable information, certain preference cannot be given to some genres over others just because of your personal opinion. May I remind you that this is an encyclopedia? --Banime (talk) 20:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Weedpunk

Since you raised your concerns about the Weedpunk article in my talk page, I thought that I should notify you that I have nominated the article for deletion: see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Weedpunk. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

REVERT!

Are you seriously reverting every edit I'm making!? Timneu22 (talk) 16:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Up for discussion: village pump. Timneu22 (talk) 16:34, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Your note re the box set

Hi. :) As I said at my talk page, I'm bringing my answer here for indentation reasons. I'll be watchlisting your talk page so we can talk about it more.

I'm answering two question: what else does it need before creation, and what else could be done to it. :) First: probably nothing. Except, as is, you'd want to remove the empty section. You've certainly got plenty enough to qualify as a stub. If it were mine, I'd probably look for a few more reviews just to ensure notability, but I know what a challenge that can be with anything outside of the pop realm.

What else could be done to it:

• I'd either move the external link reviews to join the AMG reviews in the infobar or, more likely, yank a few relevant quotes out of them to put into that critical reception section.
• Looking at your source, I note that it doesn't say that the album attempts to be blahblah, but that it is. I'd probably revise that opening something like so:

(I reformatted that allmusic reference with the template.)

• Here's the nightmare. There should be a credits section. Those are pain with box sets. Just look at all those names! I tend to divide mine between performance & production and put them in columns, like so.
• Track listing needs times and composers, which would also be a huge headache, since in the main list at AMG they only offer performers. To find out composers, you have to follow the link for each song. For example, the main page tells us Dr. John performed Iko Iko, but the subpage says who wrote it. On compilation albums, I tend to put that information in a chart, like this one.
• In addition to pulling quotes out of the reviews and summarizing the reception, I'd certainly want to talk about the book that comes with it. Those sounds like some pretty remarkable liner notes. :)
• Of course, there's the cover & categories.

Anyway, if you want to add any of those things to the article, so much the better. It doesn't absolutely need them to go into article space, though. Without the credits, track listing & composers, the album can only remain at stub status, but a good stub is better than no information at all. --Moonriddengirl 16:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

The track times are at AMG. :) You may not actually need to see the book to mention it. There's probably enough information in the reviews to pull that together. Anyway, as I said, it could almost as is for stub status. --Moonriddengirl 23:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem

For some reason I never seem to get the level of grief you do from vandals. Must be your tone or something.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:31, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

That's probably what he said and him too! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:38, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice of you to reply on the right page... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:42, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I know that feeling. Got nothing done over the last week, and don't think I'll get it finished before I go away this weekend either :( One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Well I'm having one of my birthday parties (the London leg of the tour....) so I'm hoping so :) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh I imagine it'll go well cheers, but I'll suffer for it next week.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

A pint? That's nearly an armful! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I can't believe you've never heard of Tony Hancock!?! One of the great English comedians...that's from a scene where he goes to donate blood, and isn't happy about the amount asked for. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:55, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I remember all that. There's a good bit about it in my sources, about how the Irish police and army were powerless to stop cross-border smuggling. Then as soon as Mad Cow Disease came along, you couldn't move near the border without tripping over a guard! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 04:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Barnstars

If I understood the technology better, I would give you a star for your very interesting userpage and another star for your message to the latest vandal of the Winnipeg General Strike article.

Anytime you are campaigning to be an administrator, or an arbitrator, or President of the USA, or Pope, or other high office, you can count on my vote. Cheers, Wanderer57 (talk) 03:41, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Your stage name triggered an old story in my mind, which you might enjoy. My mother-in-law was visiting Scotland and went into a tartan shop to buy a scarf as a souvenir. The lady who ran the shop took her tartans seriously and inquired about my mother-in-law's background. She answered by naming several of the various family names in her background, of which one was MacDonald and one was Campbell. The lady answered: "Eeee lassie, how do you live wi' yoursel?"

Wanderer57 (talk) 04:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: The Waste Land

Look, I was just trying to help out by adding what knoledge I have on the subject. I was introduced to this poem from the video game I metioned. Compared to the other items on the list, I fail to see why you single me out. Thanks to your ignorance I regret ever shareing with wiki. This will be the last thing I add to this encyclepedia. joe_def —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joe def (talk • contribs) 06:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

You and your tone again..... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 07:56, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Dieselpunk

Hey. Thanks for your support on the "Deletion review". I hope at least an AfD discussion will be allowed on the Dieselpunk page, though I fear it may end up being deleted anyway. I'll try to convince them otherwise--any help you may be able to offer would be greatly appreciated. :-) Ottens (talk) 20:11, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

There was no need to jump straight to a deletion review, calling my deletion 'suspicious', especially without contacting me. I would have been happy to restore it to userspace, then we could discuss the matter and decide what was best. J Milburn (talk) 10:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, that's just common or garden idiocy in my part, I misread your comment. However, talking to me about it would have been better course of action than taking it straight to DRv. However, the outcome is probably going to be the same, so no real harm done, I suppose. J Milburn (talk) 16:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The page has been restored and the article listed for deletion. Just thought I'd let you know in case you hadn't found out yet. Ottens (talk) 22:13, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully in a year or so the term will gain further notability and we might be able to get it accepted then. Thanks for your efforts though! Ottens (talk) 18:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Irish Rebellion of 1641

RJ, please don't use the "undo" button to reverse a series of edits just because you have issues with one of them. Sarah777 (talk) 23:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Your userpage

No problem! Glad to help. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 04:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

May 68

Could you please quote the passage in WP:MOS#Images that supports having a left-aligned lead image? The guideline clearly states that lead images should be right aligned. As far as the "portrait facing" issue goes: 1. the image is not a portrait, it's a poster. 2. no article follows that guideline. If it did, hundreds of bios would have left-aligned lead images. They don't, because it's disruptive to readability. VanTucky 20:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I've read the paragraph on left vs. right facing portraits. But the image is not a portrait, it's an artist's poster, and there are two people depicted. Only the background one is facing right, so it's not enough to controvert the preferred right alignment. VanTucky 20:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, if you feel that strongly about it, I don't care enough at this point to get in to a battle over it. Obviously I still disagree, but the rest of the article needs so much work that images are a tertiary concern at this point. VanTucky 20:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

algiers

I'm from Algiers. I have many wonderful memories of the place, although I suspect you're referring principally to Old Algiers / Algiers Point. The Crown & Anchor pub is a great place to hang out there (as you may already know). Last time I was home, the Oakwood Wall (in a less picturesque area) was still only half-open, post-Katrina. Well, it was nice to hear someone give it such a high rating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Principiawanderlust (talk • contribs) 23:12, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Wendell Berry query

Thanks; I thought I had got the reference in, but obviously don't have the hang of it. Is it better to use superscript/footnote added to the section or just add below or what. The "Protestant Christian" statement is not referenced either; there are hundreds others not referenced. What are the guidelines or indications when references are warranted (my vote is always) or otherwise required. Phoebe13 (talk) 21:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok...I think I figured it out....will add the Aitken book reference and the Temenos reference. I see that the Coomaraswamy & Merton refs are redundant w/ other content, so that needs to stay deleted. My bad. ANOTHER QUESTION: the reference list is inconsistent re. ISBN's. Should they be there as live links? If so, shouldn't they also be in the "books" section? Otherwise, we have a page that has live links to others' books, but not to the subjects' books. If you think this needs to be done, I can practice learning to make links on this. Phoebe13 (talk) 22:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Dieselpunk and notability

Yo hombre, I'd like to help rescue Dieselpunk from deletion, but the sources in the article don't establish its notability at all and I can't find anything appropriate on Google. Did you have anything in mind? скоморохъ 22:09, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Re:Category:Hacker

I actually intended to clear the category, then delete it. Seems I got distracted in the middle. I will do that now. J Milburn (talk) 23:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the note. J Milburn (talk) 23:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Wendell Berry re-do

Hi...I think I got the references added to the material on Berry's religious leanings...can you check over them? Don't know how to add the link to the Temenos Academy, which has a stub started. I will try to add more ISBN's to this this Berry page eventually. Thanks again for your help. Phoebe13 (talk) 20:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Golden Bough/Mass of Saint-Sécaire

Hi, I'm taking the liberty of reinserting the Mass of Saint-Sécaire to the 'See Also' section of The Golden Bough's article. If Force-fire is okay to link from it, then the Mass of Saint-Sécaire certainly should be! :) TCleghorn (talk) 01:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Just noticed your tagging of the Mass article for deletion. Rest assured, improvement and referencing of that were next on my list! What are the proper protocols and so forth when an article's been tagged in this way?TCleghorn (talk) 01:16, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

NICRA

Yeah, there's massive problems with the anon's edit. For example the change to "redrawing of electoral boundaries", neglects to mention exactly why they wanted the electoral boundaries redrawing in the first place - ie gerrymandering. If I get time over the next few days I'll tighten up the sourcing on that article, in particular their demands. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 05:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Can't be arsed starting a new section. No problem, don't worry about it. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Berry re-do, redux

Hey, I found a reference for the Protestantism & added that, if you want to 2nd that. It's accurate. Phoebe13 (talk) 23:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

re: userpage revert

No prob. I already reported him, as I saw you had issued a "final warning" before he vandalized your page. Whenever I see an IP address change a userpage in Recent Changes, I pounce on it because the only reason I can come up for an IP to edit a userpage without vandalizing it is if the user forgot to sign in. (yes, I came up with that reason through my own experience. *sigh*) J.delanoy_adds 01:10, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

and my pathetic typing skills combined with my crappy laptop keyboard made sure that message seemed silly. Oh well... J.delanoy_adds 01:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Damn you!

I was just trying to revert that edit to the Rising article myself.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I was busy making sure 30 April was correct, and Con Colbert would definitely agree. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Luckily that's one bit of American TV that hasn't been inflicted on us over here yet..... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:16, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm just going by the law of averages. The vast majority of stuff that gets exported here tends to be shockingly bad. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Guess that makes us even then? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

The vanity hunter strikes again.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

You're assuming far more good faith than me, I'm assuming he is the guy... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:36, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

If you haven't looked back through the history of the article, you'll find this section rather amusing probably? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

hunter thompson

i'm not arguing with you about removing the socialist cat, but doesn't it say it right in the article that he espoused a mix of libertarian, anarchist, and socialist views, and that he was pictured on several occasions wearing a che guevara t-shirt, not to mention his support for the 60s counterculture movement? 80.42.7.111 (talk) 03:55, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeats

I'm sure a nice infobox would solve those TOC and image problems :) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Only trying to make a helpful, constructive suggestion - why, is there some sort of problem with it? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, has it been discussed before? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I suppose I'd better drop the act seeing as the old discussion is still on my talk page.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

3RR

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Codeine (talk) 01:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Massurrealism

I've added some concerns to the article talk page. It might be worth contacting LAgurl. They have made some edits to the article and may know more about the movement. --Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 20:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

re:Werdnabot

Hi, yeah same, it hasn't worked for me for about a month or two.. Until now i figured i had screwed something up - but look at this User_talk:Werdna, i guess its inactive for now. Dammit.--Celtus (talk) 07:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Of course you know what this means

We shouldn't just say The Holocaust when we're taking about Nazis. It'll have to be "The Final Solution, popularly referred to as The Holocaust....<ref>Some activists object to the term "Holocaust"</ref>.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 17:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

battle of Tecroghan

Hello, Do you know much about the Irish conflict of the 1640's?

I wrote an article on the battle of Tecroghan; how do I add it to the list of battles in the Irish Confederate wars (that appears on the right side of the screen?)

Also, the battle was a minor one in terms of importance. There is another battle like this one that I am planning to do an article on but again it is also not of great importance. Is this kind of article worth adding?.

Thanks for your attention.Inchiquin (talk) 09:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Green movement

If you're ready , I am. Go ahead, and I'll help out with some of the odds and ends afterwards. Fishal (talk) 02:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Burroughs (again)

We don't need both of them. It is common practice to bold like that, and we probably should include William Lee, too. But William Burroughs and William S. Burroughs are too similar. I'll make the change. 23skidoo (talk) 04:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Turned out this was a good call because there was a weird error in the lead that I spotted when I made the change on the names, saying Burroughs started in the late 80s. Weird. 23skidoo (talk) 04:20, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

To be fair

That's probably because he was blocked, although the sock/meatpuppets weren't.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

You're just oozing good faith today! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Well I'd be happier with some beer, charlie and a nice young lady, but that'll have to make do for now! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:22, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Well I've got two out of three, it's just a bit early in the week for them :( One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Wrong page! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

That's what happens when you drink on a Monday.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Probably for the best, I doubt you could handle two days in a row at your age. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I think I'll join you... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 01:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Same as I'd reply to virtually anyone, cite a bloody source. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 02:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

As it turns out the list was missing one of the secretaries anyway, as there were two of them. I'd say it's a purely editorial decision as to whether a full list is included, if there's no articles it's probably better to just use a partial list of notable atendees, while making it clear that's the case. The fact you were even polite (for you) in your edit summary seems to have gone unnoticed, compared to my usual "rv unsourced" type summary. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 02:31, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I was just pointing out you'd made an effort! According to Hart, "Eamon Duggan, while officially a full-powered delegate, was seen more or less as a Collins staff member by all sides", and that's right after it talking about Collins taking his staff to London including couriers and bodyguards. So we're getting into irrelevant list territory possibly....I'm not overly keen on Childers being there, but he's not mentioned anywhere else so it might be an idea to keep him in. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 02:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

To be honest the whole article needs a machete taking to it. For example "Collins, like many of the rising's participants, was arrested, almost sent to the gallows..." - load of bollocks probably. There were never plans to execute that many people, as there would have been a massive outcry. The number of executions was kept deliberately small to avoid just that. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:00, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm waiting for me to get the energy to finish an article and a few other bits and pieces, them I'm off! Collins is one I always wanted to try and sort out, but I can imagine it's one of those where as soon as you do anything drastic the POV warriors suddenly rise from their slumber and it's an instant warzone. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:23, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

If I wasn't so busy/lazy/drunk (delete as applicable) I'd have been away weeks ago, just I need to get this one article finished. When it's done, you'll understand why.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:30, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

See the MC talk page. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:41, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

And after all that, I've just found that Duggan has an article! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 17:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, he's more important than Childers.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 22:32, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Michael Collins

You may well be the self-appointed biographer on Michael Collins but even so, don't remove relevant information from the article... it just makes you look stupid. It would be much more helpful if you actually have any constructive edits to make rathar than merely preventing others from doing so Lazarus89 (talk) 01:43, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

A thank you for the welcome

Salutations RepublicanJacobite : I got your message, thanks. It is good to be here at Wiki and I will read over the guidelines to get myself more acquainted with them. --TheNightRyder (talk) 07:45, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Tolkien article

Someone has taken umbrage with your recent removal of traditional. I explained (rather brashly) that conservative and traditional mean the same thing... Apparently though, this is a problem for some to understand, and it's been re-re-reverted after I re-reverted it if that makes any sense. I personally feel that writing should be concise -- at least that's what every Professor I've ever had has imbued on me. Apparently, some people don't agree and would rather waste time on adding extra words than time trying to bend their heads around a relatively simple concept. Thoughts?Ryecatcher773 (talk) 21:34, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Ryecatcher: Yes, you were quite "brash" about it, to say the least. No matter, I'm not going to make an issue of it, which is what I came here to tell RepublicanJacobite after his recent revert of my edit.

I'm all for conciseness -- in fact, I've made something of a speciality out of reducing the "plot" sections of movie articles without losing their fundamental meaning, so I'm quite aware of the concept. I also think, however, that there is sometimes rhetorical value in using a number of words (usually three) which are close in meaning, but not precisely the same, to emphasize a point - and this is true of "traditional and conservative". Every word has an "aura" of implications about it which define them just as much as a dictionary definition does, and these two carry somewhat different auras - closely related, absolutely, but not precisely the same.

Be that as it may, it's not something worth edit-warring over, or even holding an extended discussion about it on the article talk page, and I just came by to say so. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) 01:12, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

May I also say, RJ, that I appreciated the tone of your edit summary when you reverted me. Thank you. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) 01:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

a prince among editors!

Oh wise and venerable Jacobite, see how thy minions adore thee: "the article has meanwhile thriven and grown under the expert and objective counsels of RepublicanJacobite." скоморохъ 23:16, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

American Revolutionary War

I noticed that you removed a whole bunch of what appear to be flags. While I'm not doubting your reasons for doing so, I'm trying to get a handle on various MoS rules and procedures and I a fairly junior editor. Could you tell me your reasoning for removing the flags? Rockfall (talk) 09:05, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I was the one who put the flags there. I think they were removed because of anti-flag guidelines. I didn't quite know about the guidelines, sorry. --Jedravent (talk) 20:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

The MoS on flags is fairly ambiguous - mainly down to editorial preference. To be honest, I think the removal of the flags from that infobox makes sense - it didn't add a great deal to the article. I was checking that that was the reason you removed them and that there wasn't some hard and fast flag rule that I was unaware of! Thanks for the reply. Rockfall (talk) 00:58, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Clean slates

See Misplaced Pages:Template messages/User talk namespace. Level 1 is generally for assuming good faith, so that can definitely be bypassed second time round. If it's definitely the same editor I'd go straight for level 3 (or 4 depending on the severity of the vandalism), otherwise level 2. But I could be wrong.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 20:23, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Feh, your tone is normally better than mine. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 20:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

You cheeky £$%^!!! But I'm not the one who has aspirations here, so it doesn't matter that much to me. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 21:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I did, but without checking the entire history of the page I couldn't tell if it was sarcasm or not. I suspect it was knowing you.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 21:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for tweaking the text in Terry Gilliam. I was trying to avoid making it sound like a tax dodge, but your revision improves on that. Cheers. --Ckatz_spy 22:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Hypergraphics merge

Now that you have reminded me of it I will get around to that merge sometime probably this weekend. If you feel qualified please merge the articles yourself as I am only passingly familiar with the topics. Hyacinth (talk) 20:53, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Yo, if you've got a minute

Would you mind weighing in here? I've got a GA nomination on the line and I need to resolve this content dispute one way or the other. Muchas gracias, скоморохъ 02:00, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Art sources

Sorry for the delay in replying. RL presses. I use google as the primary tool, basically looking for mentions in sources that meet WP:RS, maybe investigating the source further if it's not clear what its status is. Sometimes a site will anyway provide a clue and maybe lead to another. I also do google advanced site searches of newspapers, if there's likely to be material there, plus using the newspapers own search facility, as sometimes different results ensue. www.findarticles.com can be productive. I have access to various Oxford books online, like the Grove Dictionary of Art, and a good UK newspaper archive, accessible via subscription or certain public library membership. Google books can be productive, and also searches in amazon.com and amazon.co.uk to see if there are mentions in books. http://www.intute.ac.uk/artsandhumanities/ is an academic database, administered by Oxford University in liaison with others. Ty 02:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Situationism

I wasn't quite pursuaded by your arguments, though i weakened a little. Given the near-total lack of response, I would wait awhile before re-opening. Johnbod (talk) 15:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

MacBride/McBride

No worries a chara, reverted it just now. --Domer48 (talk) 18:11, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Sigh...

Do you ever have one of those days/weeks/months/years (delete as applicable) when you're sick and tired of dealing with tedious braindead morons? I'm thinking it might be a good idea to get some proper stuff done over the next couple of days, so I can avoid the riff raff...hope you got that business sorted out? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:08, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh I'm just hypothesising in general terms, not speaking about any specific editor as that would be a personal attack after all! Is your brother ok as well then? Email about a completely unrelated subject heading your way in about two minutes. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:19, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Vanity, thy name is....

Persistent. Pity they didn't take your sagely advice really isn't it? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

That's all a bit formal and bureaucratic for you. Who are you, and what have you done with the real RepublicanJacobite? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:42, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

George Stamatis

Done...I think. I haven't done this before, so please check to see if you can create the page or not. Thanks. _GB 18:46, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

SGGK help

This article will be on the main page soon, so I may need help keeping the chaos under control. Wrad (talk) 19:17, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Celtic Nations

No, that's right, it was the anon IP editing before that fudged it up. The other "Ireland" flag template links "Ireland" to "Republic of Ireland", when it's the full 32 counties that are classed as a Celtic Nation, regardless of what any bigots think. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:46, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

could be used instead, it is on the Pan-Celticism article so it could do with being consistent. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:53, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Coolcrease

It seems to be written relatively neutrally at first glance. Despite the possible author's unhappiness at the other account, it does seem to be presented in a reasonable way - both versions are included. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 21:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

We'll make a good editor out of you yet! ;) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:17, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Chicago Jazz Master

Hello, I lack some info, so hate to bother you but there was a black jazz master who died in 1910, from midwest, around 33 years of age, any idea what the name may be? May be there is a musician death list circa 1910./ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.107.2.30 (talk • contribs)

Christos Papachristopoulos‎

Tagged for speedy deletion as a recreation of deleted material. That'll teach them not to add references that are mirrors of the old article, talk about making it obvious! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 21:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Indeed. Do you want to take a look at the edits of 77.49.90.156 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)? It's difficult to sort the wheat from the chaff, but there's definitely Papachristopoulos adding vanity mentions of himself to the Camus article, but I don't see the point in doing half a job when it all might need a hedge strimmer. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 14:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Probably for the best. Don't know too much about the subject matter and don't have the time or enegery to actually check what's being added, think you're being slightly harsh as it's not all self promotion but whether it's relevant is a different matter. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 14:44, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Well the phrase was "promotion of nonnotable writer", and it's mostly not promotion of the writer in question.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 14:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

And dynamic IPs too. Still, it's relatively contained and easy to spot.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:01, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

It's all Greek to me! ;) I'll get me coat....... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:19, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

To be fair, it is a famous saying. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Says me and 122,000 hits on Google. I s'pose I faked them too? ;) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:41, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Well that's true. In fact what actually happened is I invented a time machine, went back to the 1590s, waited while Shakespeare was sleeping and slipped the saying "it was Greek to me" into Julius Caesar and he never noticed, just so the phrase would enter common parlance for my use centuries later. That's about as plausible as David Lauder's "I'm innocent, this is a frame-up by the Irish" defence..... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Aaaargggggghhhh! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 13:00, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Not as persistent as this character by the looks of things.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:05, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

The persistence of anons...

I wish Papachristopoulos would get that message. Unless every source about him is in Greek, he's not very notable. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 08:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll take care of the Camus article shall I, obviously you're too busy swanning about doing other things ;) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 15:59, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

That!. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Feh, I'll have to give you the benefit of the doubt since the anon's edit was made at 15:53 and my revert at 15:58, and there's a gap in your contribs with the exact same time period. I'm thinking it might be time to bring this up on ANI or similar, especially after the unanimous AFD, lack of sources, mention on fringe theories noticeboard etc etc. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:09, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Heathen?! You don't know the half of it. Some years ago one of my former house mates was getting married, and despite being an atheist was getting married in a church. I didn't care much for the council estate scrubber he was marrying, who wanted to get married in a church. Had he been religious I'd have considered attending, but as it was there was no way I was setting foot inside a church so I offered to go to the reception instead. That was met with a frosty "if you don't bother coming to the church don't bother coming at all", and I've never spoken to him since. He had no respect for my proud atheist beliefs, so there was no way I was setting foot in a church for him! But yeah, happy Easter anyway ;) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:18, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

And to think Jesus walked all that way to his death carrying a cross and you're not even going to church because there's no bus. Shame on you! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:28, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Who said I didn't believe in Jesus?! I just see him as a historical version of David Icke, maybe with a bit of Paul Daniels thrown in for his tricks. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:36, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

That was uncalled for :( One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm struggling to find an adequate response that won't result in all kinds of problems ensuing. Anyway, ANI report on your Greek friend coming up shortly. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Make that WP:COIN, I figured I'd try there first as it's more appropriate. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 17:00, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 17:16, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll not be holding my breath on that one. You chipping in over at COIN? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 17:24, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Christos from Greece

Well, Republican Jacobite, I see that you have made the aim of your life to exterminate all of my contributions in Misplaced Pages and you claim that I have a self-interest conflict... well, I do not have a self-interest conflict, I totally agree with myself!!! Now, after the joke, I really want to say that I have in Greek a lot of sources -actually, I have bought all the books of Camus and I also have translated 13 books or essays by him which are not yet published in Greece. Now, it seems that you just do not want the readers of Misplaced Pages to learn anything else about him... If you read his essays in The Summer, you will see that he says he is a son of Greece. In 1956 he came in Greece and he gave a lecture where he said that he was member of the same team with Kazantzakis - you also erased eveything about it in my Kazantzakis contribution.... But why??? I think that you are the Nationalist. Now, you also erased a very good contribution of me about Gabriel Marcel. Misplaced Pages had a very bad article about him, I made ot very better giving a glimpse of the relations between Marcel, Camus, Kazantzakis and Maritain and you, the Terminator, came to protect the readers of Misplaced Pages, when itself the article said it wanted treatment from an expert on the subject. I claim that I have the right to be an expert on this subject while you are only spending your time erasing articles. Will you ever create something artistic or you will only be a science-FICTION "writer"? Sorry for the offence, but I propose you to read the Speech of Camus in Stockholm and his essay "Creating Dangerously" in his collection Resistance, Rebellion and Death. As for Marcel, if you search on the Internet, you will find that -as he said- his theatrical plays are the Islands of Greece and his books are the Land of Greece in harmony with Nature and Environment. I appeal to you with a challenge... if you can, write something better than me OR, IF NOT, stop destroying. I think you are a nihilist. I want to tell you, finally, that I have the book Christian Metaphysics and Neoplatonism and you delete every report about it!!! Why? Are you afraid of something??? Of written words? Please, DO read the 2 volumes of THE MYSTERY OF BEING in Gifford Lectures by Gabriel Marcel. Stop for 2 days your fundamentalistic flight in the planes against the twin towers of my writings and consecrate 3 days in reading this book. As far as that I am nonotable, well, I hear the notes of Louis Armstrong, Franz List and Mikis Theodorakis! Yours, Christ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.49.91.133 (talk) 20:58, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

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