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Bear River Massacre
I am indeed interested in learning more about this event and things connected to it. I might be able to get a copy of the Utah Historical Quarterly from my local library (I live in Logan, Utah), or get it from Utah State University, so you don't need to go through any special effort to get a copy to me.
Thanks for the reference, however, and it looks like something perhaps I should try and dig up to add some additional references in this article. I've been meaning to give it a second look, and to clean up some of the unreferenced sections that I left dangling as uncited "facts". Building up the biliography alone would be worth it, especially if this source is as good as you claim. --Robert Horning (talk) 16:31, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Arthur Foss (tugboat)
You mentioned adding references for the Arthur Foss (tugboat) article, which I had tagged as needing reference improvements. The tag is to indicate serious problems. If you have improved the references and judge it does not need deserve the tag (even though it could still be improved, as an article can always be improved), then yes you should remove the tag. Anyone can add such a tag and anyone can remove such a tag. In this article, setting aside any plagiarism issue, the article seems to me now to be well-referenced and you would certainly remove the tag at this point.
About the plagiarism issue, though, I agree there is a problem. Three sentences in the first paragraph for example seem to be copied pretty much word-for-word from the 5th reference to the article. That reference is not a public domain source, so this is also copyright violation, I suppose. Some say anything as long as a three-word sequence copied is plagiarism; i would allow a bit more than 3 words in a row but here the word sequences are longer and clearly suggest copying, not independent coincidental ly similar wording. Can you reword the overlapping material? And/or put any specific assertions into quotes, crediting that site? I find it disappointing, always, to find plagiarism, but you've done well to catch it. Thanks for asking! doncram (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
USCGC Fir formatting etc
Thanks for cleaning up. Yes, the NBSP; character is apparently to be used in measurements, to keep the number and the unit of measurement together. I only learned about that from the automated review of the List of NHLs in New York, and subsequent discussion, within the peer review (which is still open at Misplaced Pages:Peer review/List of National Historic Landmarks in New York/archive1). Thanks again. doncram (talk) 06:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Daytona Beach NRHPs
Thank you for getting the pics of the Bartholomew J. Donnelly House and Tourist Church. I was going to try last weekend, but with Bike Week, thought it best to postpone. If you could get more shots of NRHPs there, it would be great. The list I'm using to keep track of what's need is here. And thanks for adding my photo to the Ponce de Leon Inlet Light article. I definitely need to go back on a nicer day, though, and get better shots, including ones from the top, doncha know :) -Ebyabe (talk) 23:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Florida on-line historic site documents
Hi -- In response to your question to me. http://www.flheritage.com/preservation/sitefile/faq.cfm indicates it might be possible to get on-line access to Florida documents, but it appears you would have to differentiate yourself from "the general public". Being an amateur but experienced writer of wikipedia articles could possibly suffice, I wonder.
"Q. Is Site File information available online? A. We do not offer self-service internet searches to the general public partly due to security concerns and due to archaeological site location and building plan Sunshine Law exemptions. Cultural Resource Management professionals may be able to gain time-limited, electronic access to files through a secure, password protected application but will need to contact Site File personnel for more information."
Hope this helps. Please do let me know if they do give you access. doncram (talk) 13:14, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Willard Memorial Chapel
I do think a list of RHPs would be too unwieldy too soon. About Willard Memorial Chapel: originally a seminary, later 7th day adventist, now community center/wedding venue. I don't know what religion a seminary is. Maybe if the list of NHLs that are churches is put into a table, there needs to be more than one column for religion, like:
- Name
- State
- Religion 1: religion of primary association with the site
- Religion 2: religion of secondary association
Go ahead, make a table out of it! doncram (talk) 02:04, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
nrhp multiple author reference
There's a bug with the referencing system, so using first= and last= and otherauthor= (or some such field like otherauthor) does not work properly. So don't use any of those fields when there are multiple authors, use something like "author=Joseph S. Smith, Betty Boop, and Harold Vanderkamp" instead. That's what i do. doncram (talk) 19:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Alternatively, you could put first author's name into Last, First format, as in "author=Smith, Joseph S., Betty Boop, and Harold Vanderkamp". This distinction is not very important, but that might appear better in a reference list with other single authored references that do appear in Last, First name order. This is how most academic journal reference lists would be prepared, as far as i know. Further, practice is to leave the 2nd and other authors in First Last name order, probably because adding commas just convolutes it all and could make it difficult to read which set of names append together to make one author name. Hope this helps. doncram (talk) 21:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Virginia NHLs
Hi -- I've started working on List of National Historic Landmarks in Virginia. I'd be very pleased if you were interested in contributing some edits there or in the NHL articles it indexes. I've invited Clariosophic and Kudzuvine also to work on that list, and invited Bedford to work on one specific article that I think he might be interested in.
Hopefully Kudzuvine will be interested and will work on the HABS pics available for many Virginia NHLs (again as there were lots for South Carolina, while there are relatively fewer HABS pics for historically industrial states like Ohio and New York.) But I don't know if he's interested in going outside of South Carolina much.
I do find it a lot more fun to work on a list where there are other nice people contributing too. Anyhow, you're invited!
Cheers, doncram (talk) 00:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! Clariosophic says he will help too. Oops, sorry those links within Alexandria Historic District were just bad. I respond further about that at Talk:List of National Historic Landmarks in Virginia. Glad you're on board. What would you like to do? I do observe the NRHP document is there for Aquia Church, the next one on the list. It would be great if you wanted to, but maybe there are other things you'd prefer to do than develop write-ups from those documents. I'll try to sketch out some other task ideas in the Talk page of the list. doncram (talk) 04:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, well, i liked having the map show in the Pittsylvania County Courthouse article. Perhaps because it shows where Pittsylvania County is located and that is part of the name of the place, and part of why the place is out of the way, a possibly "hick" place where discrimination could flourish, to speculate a bit. I tend to wipe out the maps when the location gets redundant, like if there are 30 NHLs in New Orleans and everyone knows where there that is already. You could choose to edit differently. By the way, this one would be easy to do a quick DYK for. doncram (talk) 17:15, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
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