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NN webfilm Nakon 15:50, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - Unreferenced, and doesn't assert notability in the slightest. -- JediLofty 15:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete - not too sure how this article has lasted as long as it has. No references, notability definatley can't be established, maybe even original research. Can't fly here...
(not exactly sure, but maybe this WP:CSD#A7 applies here.after further reading, it doesn't apply, oops! Dusti 16:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC) - Keep – As our dependency for gathering information – news – references and other pertinent information from the Internet grows our need to change our mindset from the more traditional methods of establishing verifiable – reliable and creditable sources such as the New York Times and Time needs to be expanded to include sites like YouTube and machinima.com. As you will note here this game has established quite a following. Over 100,000 hits on Google in reviewing the first 100 I would say this game has established notability. ShoesssS 17:04, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Delete: No, it really hasn't. Misplaced Pages is not a publisher of first instance, and we really don't need to highlight every bit of self-promoted ephemeral pop culture. If reliable sources notice something, we should too. If they don't, then it really wasn't very important after all. RGTraynor 19:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Delete, sorry, I'm not ready to accept YouTube as a reliable source. NawlinWiki (talk) 17:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Delete I don't see any evidence that they were in the New York Times, or any other reliable source for that matter. I was originally going to speedy tag this myself, but I undid that. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 17:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 21:45, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Alas, I am a big fan of the series, but as correctly pointed out, it doesn't have coverage in reliable sources. To Shoesss: YouTube can't be a reliable source because they aren't known for fact-checking and accuracy, which is required under the verifiability guideline. Just because more people are using it doesn't fix the problem that there's no way to make sure the information on the site is reliable and truthful. So with a heavy heart I must recommend to delete this article. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 22:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - LOL- Not a problem, in fact, I understand the rational behind the delete opinions and would normally agree! However, though the video has not been covered by more traditional news coverage services, there is no doubt the video series have gained notability. My contention is that even in the face of providing an argument, from non-traditional sources, we have editors shutting their ears and eyes and stamping their feet claiming; “...well I do not see it in the New York Times. All I can say is that thank you to the man-in-charge that Fox News and CNN did not follow the established majority or we would all still be watching ABC – CBS and NBC only. Take care all. ShoesssS 23:34, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Its not just "traditional news services" - WP:RS's definition also allows websites that have that kind of fact checking (GameSpot and IGN for instance would be as acceptable sources for this article if they had covered the series), as well as blogs that are run by members of the media or other reputable sources. The problem is that even this new media that does fall into "acceptable" under WP:RS hasn't covered this series either. I understand the concern that some editors do have some blindness to non-traditional reliable sources in deletion debates, but in this case the subject still doesn't have any coverage in any source that meets WP:RS, traditional or new media. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 04:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - LOL- Not a problem, in fact, I understand the rational behind the delete opinions and would normally agree! However, though the video has not been covered by more traditional news coverage services, there is no doubt the video series have gained notability. My contention is that even in the face of providing an argument, from non-traditional sources, we have editors shutting their ears and eyes and stamping their feet claiming; “...well I do not see it in the New York Times. All I can say is that thank you to the man-in-charge that Fox News and CNN did not follow the established majority or we would all still be watching ABC – CBS and NBC only. Take care all. ShoesssS 23:34, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - The above comments are from the last deletion of this page, since then I have improved the article, added alot of info, etc. Please considering keeping this. AP Shinobi (talk) 00:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- The article has been speedied twice. This debate is about the current version of the article. None of the content has changed (except for the addition of nonsense) since I nominated the article. Nakon 01:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- That was an edit from an anon IP, and has been deleted. AP Shinobi (talk) 14:09, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- The article has been speedied twice. This debate is about the current version of the article. None of the content has changed (except for the addition of nonsense) since I nominated the article. Nakon 01:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Delete- Not needed, it is just a parody of Halo and has been deleted several times before. Sorry. BW21.--BlackWatch21 19:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)