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Incomplete and contested proposals
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- Emilio Estevez → Emilio Estévez, Renée Estevez → Renée Estévez - the name is spelt with the accent above the 'e', and is spelt that way throughout the articles (see also Ramón Estévez. -Trampikey 13:45, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- No discussion area created for either page. Reliable sources do not use the accent, including Renée Estevez's own website: . Ramón Estévez's article started out without accent before an anonymous Spanish IP made edits last year. Horsesforcorses (talk) 14:15, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well, whatever the outcome, the name needs to be consistent through the articles Emilio Estévez, Renée Estévez, Ramón Estévez, Joe Estévez, Charlie Sheen and Martin Sheen. -Trampikey 16:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- No discussion area created for either page. Reliable sources do not use the accent, including Renée Estevez's own website: . Ramón Estévez's article started out without accent before an anonymous Spanish IP made edits last year. Horsesforcorses (talk) 14:15, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Portal:Military of the United States/U.S. Military Officer Rank Badges → Portal:Military of the United States/U.S. Uniformed Service Officer Rank Badges — The United States has seven uniformed services that commission officers and these ranks don't just apply to the armed forces. —Neovu79 (talk) 00:53, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Locked-In syndrome → Locked-in syndrome —(Discuss)— UpToDate and MEDLINE database searches show that this syndrome is seldom, if ever, capitalized. The page 'Locked-in syndrome' has already been created as a redirect page, so I am not allowed to move the existing article to the correct capitalization.--Jmjanzen (talk) 16:33, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Incomplete. JPG-GR (talk) 00:53, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- spin triplet → triplet state I am contesting the move of spin triplet to triplet state and related moves. User 87.194.39.42 has been harassing me about a triplet state redirect (when it was still a redirect) to diradical and was even blocked, see and . It seems not possible to have a decent discussion about this issue. V8rik (talk) 16:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Domain specific programming language → Domain specific language —(Discuss)— The latter is the usual term, the article contents isn't limited to programmign language, and age-old discussion already appears to agree on the need for this move —Rp (talk) 19:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Incomplete. JPG-GR (talk) 00:41, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Muhammad's wives → Mother of the Believers — {Discussion} — Article discussion has taken place and consensus has been achieved to move it to the more common term based in Islamic usage. — Tigeroo (talk) 06:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)--Tigeroo (talk) 06:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Where is this discussion? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 17:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- I believe Tigeroo means this section, but he seems simply to have posted, and taken quiet for consent. I find this quite controversial; the proposed title smacks of WP:Official names, and will be obscure to the general reader of English. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Where is this discussion? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 17:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- RBI Baseball 3 → R.B.I. Baseball 3 - The title on the cartridge and the in-game title screen is "R.B.I. Baseball 3". DOSGuy (talk) 17:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Other proposals
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26 April 2008
- BMW (Mototorcycles) → BMW Motorrad —(Discuss)— The name of the BMW subsidiary is BMW Motorrad, I believe the subject matter of this article is the Mototorcycle manufacturer, not the motorcycles and the title should reflect that —Chris Ssk talk 10:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC) — Relisting to attempt consensus. Andrewa (talk) 18:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Saturn VUE → Saturn Vue —(Discuss)— MOS-TM guidelines on capitalization —Fatsamsgrandslam (talk) 17:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- England national football team managers → England national football team manager —(Discuss)— The title of this article does not follow the standard format of singular titles for articles about a position. For instance President of the United States, which is an article mainly about the position itself, though it does of course include information about the men who have held the office. There are numerous other examples. The main argument against the move is that "we have better things to do." I really don't think there's any reason other than that, and I don't think it is a particularly burdensome task to move the article, so we should move it. —-- Grant.Alpaugh 10:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Ohio State University → The Ohio State University —(Discuss)— In light of the recent move of AFC Wimbledon to its proper name, I think that this article should also be moved for the same reason. The Ohio State University is the proper, legal name used by the University in all of its officially released information. The fact that we have a common format for "XYZ State University" should not matter if it leads to the article being given an incorrect title. Whenever possible we should call things by their proper names, and this name is well known enough to not create problems. Also, we can link Ohio State University to The Ohio State University in the same way that we currently do the inverse. I see no reason why we shouldn't make this move. —-- Grant.Alpaugh 09:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Gone Too Soon (song) → Gone Too Soon —(Discuss)— There is no other article associated with the title "Gone Too Soon", and this article was moved to its current title for no specified reason whatsoever, nor have I seen a reason placed anywhere else for why the move was carried out. —Ss112 (Talk here!) 08:59, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- MTV ® → MTV R —(Discuss)— We shouldn't have the registered trademark symbol in any titles (well, except for ®), but especially not here, where it's being used a poor substitute for the network's logo. It's also confusing to people who might think it just means MTV, which is of course a registered trademark. ——Chowbok ☠ 02:31, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- The Union (U.P.Y.O.U.R.S) → The Union (professional wrestling) —(Discuss)— Current name is awkward and new one would fit better into the wider naming scheme used in other pro wrestling articles. —DrWarpMind (talk) 00:00, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
25 April 2008
- Bolzano → Bolzano (city) —(Discuss)— Bernard Bolzano receives about 1/2 as much traffic as current Bolzano, so Bolzano should probably be a disambiguation page, or a redirect to the disambiguation page at Bolzano (disambiguation) —Sapphic (talk) 22:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC) --Sapphic (talk) 22:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Rear admiral (United States) → Rear Admiral (United States) —(Discuss)— To conform with the other United States military rank articles on Misplaced Pages. Wiki:MOSCAPS Lists military ranks in two distinct general uses. I am trying to get a consensus for the article name. —Neovu79 (talk) 21:19, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- These two fromer towns were moved to new namespaces on the misconception that they were about neighbourhoods of the city of Edmonton. They are actually about the histories of these towns before annexation. For both of them there are seperate articles for the present-day neighbouhoods that occupy the area the towns once did. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 19:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Brisbane Cricket Ground → The Gabba —(Discuss)— Discussion and consensus here and here. —dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 10:17, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Renaissance in the Netherlands → Renaissance in the Low Countries —(Discuss)— The current article is not limited to the Netherlands in English usage, since it discusses both the southern and northern Netherlands. The most common and clearest alternative is the use of Low Countries as a broad geographic base that includes Flanders, the northern provinces and some of the other regions that played an important role in the period (also see Netherlands (terminology)). In English, the Netherlands (without further conditions) refers to a country that does not yet exist during the period discussed and much (most, actually) of the discussion is for areas beyond its borders. —Stomme (talk) 09:54, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- The Wicker Man → The Wicker Man (1973 film) —(Discuss)— Nobody has provided any proof on why this should be the primary topic. As the article notes, it largely slipped into obscurity but it has won a few awards. Article statistics from March show an average of about 1162 hits a day , minus an avg. of 205 hits because people check the dab page as they didn't find the right one. In contrast, the 2006 film remake got about 745 hits a day , which matches up very strongly against the 1973 film (about 957), indicating that the 1973 film does not significantly outrank other instances of TWM. I therefore suggest creating a primary disambiguation page without the (disambiguation) unless someone has a good reason for keeping the 1973 film as the primary title —hbdragon88 (talk) 06:24, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Grand Tour: Disaster in Time → Timescape (1992 film) -(Discuss) - This particular film's title has been under contention, and was released under two separate titles: Grand Tour: Disaster in Time for cable, and Timescape for home video. Also, IMDB lists the film under the primary title of Timescpae, and I would think that more people would know the film under the released version. Zidel333 (talk) 02:34, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
24 April 2008
- Everything's Eventual: 14 Dark Tales → Everything's Eventual —(Discuss)— The descriptive title "14 Dark Tales" is not part of the actual title of the book. Jmj713 (talk) 23:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Guaranteed minimum income → Basic income —(Discuss)— Basic income is the universally accepted name for what is described in this article. Guaranteed minimum income (gmi) is not adequate, since a gmi can be conditional as in the case of Romania (community service). —Guido den Broeder (talk) 19:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Desert Eagle → Magnum Research Desert Eagle —(Discuss)— See Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Firearms#Naming for naming conventions this article should have the manufactures name before the name of the pistol. —MRIanthony (talk) 17:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Figurehead (metaphor) → Figurehead —(Discuss)— This is by far the most common use of the word 'figurehead' today. Additionally, the article about the metaphor could be expanded considerably. —16:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Melekeh → Jerusalem stone —(Discuss)— Evidence indicates that "Jerusalem stone" is by far the most common term in English; "melekeh" is being pushed as something of an official name. This has been moved back and forth once already. —Mangoe (talk) 15:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Aztec sun stone → Aztec calendar stone —(Discuss)— Inaccurate though it may be, "calendar stone" still seems to be the most common name. —Ptcamn (talk) 05:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
- Eric Lerner → The Big Bang Never Happened —(Discuss)— Per discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Eric Lerner. ScienceApologist (talk) 14:05, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
- Completed request. JPG-GR (talk) 03:21, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
23 April 2008
- Bashkirian Airlines Flight 2937 → ? —(Discuss)— The article is about a mid-air collision, but the title is currently that of one of the flights involved. —Paul_012 21:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Harry Johnson → Harry J —(Discuss)— Since he is more popularly known as "Harry J". (After the move, please also move Harry Johnson (disambiguation) to Harry Johnson, since there are many people named "Harry Johnson", and it's doubtful the record producer is dominantly the most famous. Chanheigeorge (talk) 08:28, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Golf club (equipment) → Golf club —(Discuss)— golf country clubs (golf club the institution) is located within the country club article - no need for a separate article, and if one is ever created, the golf equipment type of golf club is still clearly the primary topic. —199.125.109.58 (talk) 06:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- Java (Sun) → Java Platform —(Discuss)— Move over redirect: the parenthetical (Sun) is awkward for several reasons, but especially because you have to already know the context to understand what it means (the name of the company who owns the Java Platform, as opposed to a celestial star). Since the scope of the article is an overview of the Java Platform, this seems to be the most obvious title for it. —Ham Pastrami (talk) 05:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
- House of Aragon → House of Barcelona —(Discuss)— Does not need admin assistance, but more input: has been discussed (and moved/reverted) for a long time now. —Srnec (talk) 01:45, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
22 April 2008
- IMI Jericho → Magnum Research Baby Eagle —(Discuss)— See Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Firearms#Naming for correct naming scheme. User:XDanthony|XDanthony]] (talk) 23:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- Tricia Walsh-Smith → YouTube divorce video —(Discuss)— WP:BLP1E says "Cover the event, not the person." It seems clear that this person's notability pre-YouTube divorce video does not warrant a Misplaced Pages article, hence a single event like this does not make her notable, even if the event is. Looking at the sources, the only ones not relating to this event are her own home page, something about another law suit and an extremely thin IMDb page (apparently she played "Mother in Park" in an episode of "Grange Hill" back in 1987...) Basically this is all blatant self-promotion. I'm also open for other name suggestions. —Lampman 13:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- Strong oppose: Tricia Walsh is indeed a notable Broadway playwright. At the very least notable enough for an entry in the project. --Camptown (talk) 14:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Well then my question would have to be: if she's such a notable playwright, why is there hardly anything about that in the article, but endless info on the divorce? Lampman 22:54, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- Kohistan-Badakhshan Autonomous Province → Gorno-Badakhshan Autonomous Province —(Discuss)— accepted English usage —Zlerman (talk) 05:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC). I propose restoring the article's original name Gorno-Badakhshan Autonomous Province because this is the accepted usage in English. See Discussion for arguments.
21 April 2008
- Alan Γoa → Alan Goa —(Discuss)— My assumption is that the naming conventions mandate latin characters for page titles. From the possible transcriptions available, Alan Goa is the most popular in Google scholar and Google books (with Alan Qoa as distant second), so that's seems the best candidate. Both latin and greek gamma give no results. --Latebird (talk) 12:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC) —Latebird (talk) 12:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Backlog
Move dated sections here after five days have passed (January 9 or older).
- MacDonald Dettwiler → MacDonald, Dettwiler and Associates —(Discuss)— Full name of company, which uses MDA as main brand. —TheMightyQuill (talk) 17:42, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- Rose Pipette → Rose Dougall —(Discuss)— "Rose Pipette" was a band alias whilst she was in The Pipettes. She has since parted ways with the band so switching back to her actual, real name (Rose Dougall) would make sense Pullshapes (talk) 16:24, 20 April 2008 (UTC) —Pullshapes (talk) 16:24, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- Frequency analysis (cryptanalysis) → Frequency analysis —(Discuss)— Latter redirects to former. There is also a Frequency analysis (disambiguation) but I think cryptanalysis is primary usage. Also, other articles on dab page do not take the form "Frequency analysis (xxxxx)". — Aspie rational (talk) 22:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- That depends on whether the cryptanalysis meaning is the primary usage. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
- Created proper move request. Aspie rational (talk) 09:57, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- That depends on whether the cryptanalysis meaning is the primary usage. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
- Gdańsk law → Danzig law —(Discuss)— Original title of 2004, and according to the Danzig/Gdansk vote which requires the use of Danzig for the 1308-1945 period. — Matthead Discuß 02:48, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- National Socialist German Workers Party → Nazi Party —(Discuss)— A long-standing previous consensus was overturned without adequate discussion or a poll by moving the Nazi Party article to National Socialist German Workers Party. I believe the user was acting in good faith, but his unilateral move should still be overturned pending discussion. This proposal will no doubt be controversial, but I do not believe those supporting the recent move should be able to use the fait accompli to argue that the article should remain at its new location unless otherwise decided by a new consensus. The burden should not be on those supporting the previously established state of affairs, which had been in place for some two years, to make their case again. But if it comes to that, the case is as follows: Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions states that "Generally, article naming should give priority to what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature." The majority of English speakers overwhelmingly use the term "Nazi Party". Google registers 847,000 hits for "Nazi Party" and only 65,400 hits for "National Socialist German Workers Party" . That's a ratio of over 13:1 in favour of "Nazi Party." In other articles, we have already established the fact that political parties and entities do not need to be listed using their full official names, especially when those names are very long. For example, we have a main article called Nazi Germany rather than Great German Reich; we have Soviet Union rather than Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; we have North Korea instead of Democratic People's Republic of Korea; we have Conservative Party (UK) rather than Conservative and Unionist Party (UK); and so on. The sheer length of the name "National Socialist German Workers Party" is probably the reason why most English speakers prefer to use a shorthand. It also means that linking to this article is certainly not second nature right now. —Nikodemos (talk) 02:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- Prince Philippe, Duke of Brabant → Philippe, Duke of Brabant —(Discuss)— Following the example of other heirs to the throne, Philippe and Mathilde's titles should just be Philippe/Mathilde, Duke/Duchess of Brabant. —Morhange (talk) 23:17, 17 April 2008 (UTC) Morhange (talk) 23:17, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- Peter Mogila → Petro Mohyla —(Discuss)— Currently, Petro Mohyla is the most commonly used name. Historically, Peter Mogila was common. Petro Mohyla is a transliteration form Ukrainian. Peter Mogila is a transliteration from Russian. The person was a Metropolitan of Kiev. —Greggerr (talk) 03:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- Occupation of the Baltic republics by Nazi Germany → Occupation of the Baltic states by Nazi Germany —(Discuss)— Current title is not inline with current usage in the sources, per WP:COMMONNAME —Martintg (talk) 09:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
- Tomislav II of Croatia, 4th Duke of Aosta → Aimone, 4th Duke of Aosta —(Discuss)— Its like Dr.Gonzo says, the man never really ruled the Independent State of Croatia due to his misgivings with the Ustaše leadership (per Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (names and titles)#Monarchical titles). He was also never crowned and he thought the title itself was a joke. Finally, even if we choose to ignore the above, the NDH never really de jure existed, and one can hardly be a monarch of a non-existent state. —--DIREKTOR 07:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yahoo! → Yahoo —(Discuss)— Removal of the decoratively used exclamation mark, in order to avoid undue emphasis on the brand/company name, giving preference to standard English (see Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (trademarks)). – Cyrus XIII 02:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- Sakura → Cherry blossom — (Discussions at Talk:Sakura#Requested move (old) and Talk:Sakura#Requested move: Cherry blossom (current)) — Move was requested at 09:20, 8 April 2008 by User:PeterSymonds as a {{db-move}}, but is disputed — Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- Franjo Tuđman → Franjo Tudjman —(Discuss)— Orthography overwhelmingly used in reliable sources in English —Alai (talk) 07:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)