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Favorite Number

I saw that you listed 16 as one of your favorite numbers at Meta:Wikipedians by favorite numbers. Any reason as to 16 specifically? Jaberwocky6669 July 7, 2005 04:50 (UTC)

It's the square of a square... apart from that, I'm really not sure. Alphax 7 July 2005 04:58 (UTC)

Welcoming template

Hi there! I was told you're one of the frequent welcomers of new users. I was wondering - since this is a rather frequently asked question, would you please add a link to Misplaced Pages:Merge to your welcoming template? Thanks. R adiant _>|< 20:40, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I really need to overhaul it - feel free to change anything you want in it! It's located at User:Alphax/Welcome, so if there's something you think could be changed, {{sofixit}}! Thanks for the suggestion, Alphax 00:59, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

What to do about vandalism?

Hello. I've spotted an article that someone has defaced (Article:Nox (Game), What should i do?

See WP:RV. You might also want to read WP:MOS and WP:NC. Also, instead of pasting in the URL, you can type in the article name (the bit in bold up the top) in square brackets, like so: ] → Misplaced Pages. Also, Remember to always sign all of your posts on talk pages. Typing four tildes after your comment ( ~~~~ ) will insert a signature showing your username and a date/time stamp, which is very helpful. If there's anything else you want help with, ask me (hit the "edit" link next to this section) or at the help desk. Thanks and happy editing, Alphax 01:41, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

sorry, I wrote this in such a hurry that i completely forgot to sign... hopefully i didn't take too much time out of your day! thanks for the help. --Wallaby 10:00, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Admin Nomination

Alphax, are you already an admin? if you are not, will you mind if I nominate you for RfA?--Exir Kamalabadi 02:41, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

I'm not, but I'd like to wait until I have a few more contribs in the article namespace. You're not the first person to suggest it BTW. Thanks for asking though. Alphax 02:46, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- Well, tell me when you think you have enough edits. Nice welcoming message, BTW.--Exir Kamalabadi 02:51, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

Welcome

Thanks for the welcome...but I'm already a user. I'm just not signed in. However, I really appreciate that you'd take the time to welcome an anon. Need to shoot a Barnstar your way later. :^) Best, Lucky 6.9 via 71.102.66.81 03:45, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for welcome. I appreciate it. :) --rdnk 22:20, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Hey Alphax

Thanks for the summary help. My article The Edge Chronicles Twig Saga is now 12 sections long with no stubs! Thanks Again, FE411

Hi Alphax. The article you nominated for deletion is part of a sequence of vandalism created by one user. I was just about to speedy it. DJ Clayworth 14:42, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Drop-down menus in top tabs

I got sick of having too many top tabs for the screen, so I thought: why not convert them into something like this? ~~Well, I'm having troubles with the javascript to do it. Any ideas? Alphax 04:21, 3 August 2005 (UTC)~~

So I did :) See User:Alphax/monobook.js (look for "addlimenu") and User:Alphax/monobook.css. Now you can have (almost) infinite tabs! Alphax 14:13, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Mediawiki scripting project/page

All hail the master of monobook.js! I was wondering if there might be a way to collect all the different bits and place them all on one page, maybe even start a Wikiproject/page on Meta for this purpose? Let me know what you think (this is a thread, edit this section to reply) about the matter - it would be really nice to implement some sort of standardised system for all the common functions ☺ Alphax 11:06, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Alphax. Yeah, I'm trying to find some time to wrap my head around a systematic approach to "hacking" the 'pedia. Of course, you know about Misplaced Pages:Tools, right? :) Func( t, c ) 22:22, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

I wonder if there is a way to find and contact all users currently using JS to do these things... any idea who originated the common features (eg. adding the purge/edit section 0 links)? Oh, and what should the page be called? Misplaced Pages:Tools is mostly external stuff. Alphax 00:14, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

WikiFun Round 9: Lightning Round Time

I have decided to attempt to advance and end the round quickly. Parts of the question will be revealed with more hints and/or be more elaborated on as every two days. I have currently provided more hints on the answer pages for the current remaining questions. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Forgotten to log in

Oops ! I forgot to log in. I am User:Eras-mus aka de:Benutzer:Eras-mus akafr:Utilisateur:Erasmus aka nl:Gebruiker:Erasmus. 81.241.248.163 16:15, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

I confirm J Have a nice day (I suppose you live in Australia and it's the morning for you). Eras-mus 16:18, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Edits

Not sure what you are referring to. I am not willing to make edit summaries on new stubs, SqueakBox 16:30, August 6, 2005 (UTC)

Tote!

Alphax of the Wikipedians, I hereby confirm your appointment to the rank of Tactical Editor, with all the rights and responibilities this entitles you to. :) This is your ASCII rank: <<<

My apoligies, I didn't notice the change to my user page. I have never understood why Misplaced Pages doesn't give us one of those orange messages box like we get for changes to our talk pages. Hmm...it should look something like this:

You have new vandalism.

Ha, ha! ;-) See ya round the 'pedia. :) Func( t, c ) 19:47, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Just saying hi

Remember me :O Redwolf24 05:02, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Fuck YOU

Go away, how dare you welcome me. Don't do it again. Go away, Go away!!

Angry recipiant of your SPAM. 8AUG05. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.164.189.195 (talk • contribs) 04:04, 8 August 2005 UTC (UTC)

Optus??

How did you work that out?
I'm pretty sure I'm not using Optus.

Angry. 8AUG05. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.164.189.195 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 8 August 2005 UTC (UTC)

I'm on B-internet -- is that linked with Optus?

Angry. 8AUG05. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.164.189.195 (talk • contribs) 04:21, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

A reminder

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Edit summary

? Not sure what you're talking about? I don't always provide an edit summary but not sure what you're referring to...next time, link me to my fatal error. Thanks.--MONGO 19:46, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

er...still not sure what article is in question. I appeciate your assistance but I'm not a newbee...thanks anyway.--MONGO 01:14, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

Gotcha...the all caps username was due to the standard, first letter capped followed by small case already in use...I'm 6'7" and 270 pounds and from Montana, so my friends nicknamed me after a character in the movie Blazing Saddles...I use the nickname to retain some animity...have a good one and I'll remember that part about the preview button...I oftentimes forget it.--MONGO 01:47, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

Regarding PGP

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--Slowking Man 03:02, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

monobook.js

(Oops, darn that enter key.)

What I meant to ask before accidentally saving a blank message is: We talked about your monobook.js on IRC yesterday, and discussed me copying it to my monobook.js and adding a block feature to the list. However, I've been unsuccessful; every time I try to enter the feature, it doesn't work, and all the features your code is supposed to insert disappear. Since you seem to know something about this, could you tell me: What do I need to do to add the "block user" tags to user & user talk pages? -- Essjay · Talk 04:53, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

I'll look into it on the Wikicities site I'm an admin at... try asking ABCD though. Alphax 07:33, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

I've now asked ABCD; I'll appreciate any help either of you can offer. Thanks! -- Essjay · Talk 07:42, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

Um, I've got the "block" and "blocklog" tabs working - but the autofilling of the usernames doesn't seem to work for me. Does it work for ABCD? Alphax 08:15, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, it's kinda kludgy, but I've added:

function add_block_tab()
{
    var c1 = document.getElementById('column-one');
    var tabs = document.getElementById('p-cactions').getElementsByTagName('ul');
    // use the "edit this page" tab to get already-tidied url
    var editlk = document.getElementById('ca-edit').getElementsByTagName('a').href;
    // cut everything up to "title=" from the start and everything past "&action=edit" from the end
    editlk = editlk.substring(editlk.indexOf('title=') + 6, editlk.lastIndexOf('&action=edit'));
    editlk = editlk.substring(editlk.indexOf(':') + 1);
    var slloc = editlk.indexOf('/');
    if(slloc > 0) editlk = editlk.substring(0, slloc);
    // add "block" tab
    addlilink(tabs, '/Special:Blockip?faketarget=' + editlk, 'block', '');
    // add "blocklog" tab
    addlilink(tabs, '/Special:Log/block?page=User:' + editlk, 'blocklog', '');
}

and in morelinks():

if(document.title.indexOf('User:') == 0 || document.title.indexOf('User talk:') == 0)
{
    add_block_tab();
}

Try that... Alphax 08:49, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Templates with section headers

Sorry, but I don't get what this means. What needs to be done? Nv8200p 13:30, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Don't forget to substitute templates with section headers (such as {{Welcome2}} and {{idw}}) when you use them on talk pages - it reduces server load, and prevents accidental blanking of the template.

Hi, sorry for the late response, I was out of town for a week. Actually, I stopped using the default welcome and {{idw}} templates awhile back and subst my own versions. To be fair however, most templates have explicit instructions on their talk page, which tell users how to use them. Although this one does mention using subst, its not cut & dry as the others, and probably should be rewritten to be more clear and concise. I would recommend fixing it to maybe have a bold section like Template talk:Test, granted I am partial to the instruction layout style I used on Template talk:Voice actor. I think it would benefit users in the future. Thanks for your message, and I double checked all of my shortcuts to make sure I was already using subst. Salut. ∞Who ?¿? 07:44, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject user scripts

Would you like to join the Monobook scripting team? Note: this thread is now closed. We are going to start it off at User:ABCD/WikiProject User scripts. Alphax 23:44, 11 August 2005 (UTC) (first post was 01:32, 10 August 2005 (UTC))

Just wanted to let you know I've changed my vote to keep. And sure, I'd be up for joining the Monobook scripting team. -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 01:36, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Yay, now to start it :) I think I've already got func and Essjay in on it... Alphax 04:13, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps a WikiProject? -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 04:41, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

You know, that's not a half bad idea! It's almost impossible to figure out how to make those changes if you aren't familiar with the system. I'd be happy to be part of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Monobook. -- Essjay · Talk 04:53, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Sasquatch was able to help me get my monobook.js to work; he says func is the man for java work. Perhaps we shoudl get Sasquatch on board? -- Essjay · Talk 07:54, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Sure :) Alphax 10:34, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Wikiproject:Monobook sounds good to me. Someone initiate it so we can get this party started. Sasquatch↔讲↔看 19:46, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Ok, a few more people invited (put {{User talk:Alphax/20050810-01}} on someone's talk page to do so) - see what links here for who they are. Alphax 10:47, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Errh... what is this all about? Lupo 10:53, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

This is a thread. If you want to stay synchronised, don't substitute it. Some of us are considering forming a wikiproject (or something) to coordinate on scripts for the Monobook skin. Ironically, almost of all of it will be implemented in JS, not CSS. I thought you might be a knowledgable person when it comes to this stuff. Alphax 13:58, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Guys, just posting a link to here on people's talk pages is good enough to attract interested parties. Transcluding this screws up section editing on all affected talk pages. And I don't think I'll get the new message alert anyway if this is transcluded. Lupo 14:07, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Help us decide a name then! Alphax 15:07, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

As to coordinating scripts for the Monobook skin: what's the objective? A library of plug-in JavaScript snippets? A manual for the CSS used? Lupo 14:07, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, a library of plugins. Alphax 15:07, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

I can try to help with css more than js btw as I'm much better than that (but still not that good). If anyone needs a person to double check stuff I also have a bit o' time on me hands =) This project looks cool though. Sasquatch↔讲↔看 19:42, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

What is the link to the monobook project? - Ta bu shi da yu 00:12, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

There isn't one yet, we need a name and to decide where it should be located (on WP:, meta:, commons:)... Alphax 04:04, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

I think it should be in the Misplaced Pages namespace. Good idea, btw. - Ta bu shi da yu 04:18, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Though I know very little about JS and how it works and most of the stuff on my monobook.js is just copied and pasted I'd be willing to join since I've been meaning to learn javascript and it would be a good way to put real use to it. I also think it should be on the WP: namespace btw. Jtkiefer ----- 15:53, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

My suggestion for a name could be Misplaced Pages:WikiProject User scripts. – ABC D✉ 21:11, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

I am currently creating a demo at User:ABCD/WikiProject User scripts. – ABC D✉ 22:25, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I'm closing this thread. Take it there, folks! Alphax 23:44, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Somebody likes me...

DIE DIE DIE (preceding unsigned comment by 69.13.252.10 04:11, 10 August 2005 UTC)

Sure :) Alphax 04:19, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Public domain

Hi there, AlphaX. An acquaintance of mine noted that you once quoted me on the mailing list regarding public domain, to which I have never been subscribed. I forgot about that comment, actually, and I have since partially reversed my position. Because I'm not a lawyer and the legal theory of placing works in the public domain is untested, I no longer contend that it's actually impossible to do so in any jurisdiction. However, I do think it is a good idea to do as you have done, to supply an additional "backup" license in case some future decision renders release into the PD impossible in some regions. I try to put both PD and free-use on most of my stuff now. I feel foolish that I made such strong statements without proper qualification and others had relied upon them. Please forgive my arrogance.

Oh, and one more little thing: no offense, but could you please be careful about posting my username in the future? I use Deco in signatures because my user name is too easy to search for. I really wish I could just change my username, but I can't. Thanks a lot. Deco 06:10, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

It took me a while to find it - it was a post I made on Misplaced Pages-L back in May this year. I quoted something you had said on Template talk:MultiLicenseMinorPD from the raw wikitext. Anyway, you weren't the only one I quoted - I quoted the sources you provided. It was a good argument at the time, and I decided to use both versions (with disclaimers) to be certain.

As for usernames - I have an Uppercase A and a lowercase x, one word, two syllables - and somehow I had the luck to pick (almost 10 years ago) a nick that is far from unique. Unfortunately, usernames are what we go by here, so if I saw "Deco" somewhere and I didn't know who it was, I'd be inclined to visit User:Deco. Thanks, Alphax 07:39, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Ah, that's a good point. To my surprise, User:Deco turned out to still be available, so I registered it and redirected it to my user page so that no one will be (too) confused. Incidentally, on the PD issue, I think it would be great if Congress enacted legislation to correct its oversight and explicitly allow a copyright holder to release a work into the public domain. Maybe we could lobby for it, or create a petition or something. Deco 17:40, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Monobook

Was that message you posted to my talk a mass mailing or was I somehow involved in the discussion? I can't remember talking about the monobook skin all that much. - Mgm| 11:01, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks so much Alphax!

I just wanted to say I was delighted to be welcomed to Misplaced Pages by you, I feel so much more at home now. Thank you very much, and happy editing to you too!

PS. That is such a useful set of links you sent me! BSTRhino 01:00, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi Alphax.. would like your help on this please

Hi Alphax.. i understand that you are an Admin in Misplaced Pages, and I'd be grateful if you could clarify some doubts that i have regarding the Misplaced Pages Votes For Deletion (VfD) policy.

So far i have read the Misplaced Pages:Guide to Votes for deletion page and the Misplaced Pages:Deletion policy page; and went through their contents. However, what puzzles me is that certain people keep on wanting to delete several pages of articles regarding Warcraft custom games such as Defense of the Ancients, Hero Siege and Sheep Tag (the first 2 still being VfD'ed). As I have contributed a significant bit to those pages, I naturally feel sad about having them thrown in the garbage.

The question i have is - those pages were meant to be informative, somewhat in a Neutral POV, and is not meant to be some kind of advertising or personal website - and the Misplaced Pages policy states that "wikipedia is not paper"; so why are these articles continually being selected for VfDs? If it is the length or content of the article that is concerned, isn't it better to merge the short stubs into a better article, rather than just delete them outright? IMHO, i think certain editors are biased to the Warcraft custom maps category, thereby warranting the articles' deletion.

Hope you could clarify these questions for me ... and thanks for your time. =)

Debroglie 06:55, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

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Thank you, well spotted. There was a wood of redirects, and I inadvertedly must have deleted the main page to prepare for a move. I have restored the history and reverted to the actual text in the article. Sorry for the inconvenience. JFW | T@lk 13:55, 14 August 2005 (UTC)