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If you leave a message here, I'll reply here. The same applies to you. If I leave a message on your page, I keep it watchlisted and I'll see when you reply.

That was quick

Well, that was pretty quick, removing my message because it was a "personal attack" but I don't know how else to say that the user was wrong and that I don't appreciate it. I come to wikipedia every day and it seems to me like I'm being targeted and harassed now.

You don't know how else to say someone is wrong other than calling them a "horrible person" multiple times? Really? Enigma 07:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Are you belittling me?

I'm asking you a question. Enigma 07:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

You don't even know the situation. I don't know who that person is. Just someone who sits online all day and goes around deleting important information. I don't see how anything I did is wrong at all. How ELSE can I get this fixed? Emailing an admin? So you people have no power at all except deletion? How does this work? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lexhatesyou (talk • contribs) 07:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

The first step would be leaving a polite comment on the user's talk page, asking why what you contributed was deleted. If the user does not reply to your satisfaction, there are other steps that can be taken after that. Enigma 07:50, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I sent him a nice message, did you see it Enigmaman? What did you think of that nice message? Lexhatesyou (talk) 07:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I saw it. That's a definite improvement. Good job. Enigma 07:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/KnightLago

Enigmaman, just a brief note that I fully support your move here. Regards, Anthøny 19:42, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Enigma 20:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

RFA

So as I was investigating you to offer a nom for RFA, I saw User:Enigmaman/RFAurges. I'd vote for you now, and I think you'd be a sure-fire pass in say 2 weeks if you could create some stuff from WP:Requested Articles. Good luck though when you decide to run. MBisanz 03:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate the advice. I did a lot of work tonight on United States-Australia relations and I will heed what you said about Requested Articles. I once considered going through the backlog there, but it seemed like a daunting task. I'll try and pick out one or two over the weekend. Thanks again, Enigma 03:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

One more comment: I'm really humbled by all the kind comments that have been left here recently. I just hope that I can make my contributions as good as the compliments I've received. That would truly be something to strive for. Enigma 04:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Help requested

Hello! I'm unfamiliar with your opinion of me beyond your recent disagreement with some comments that I made at User talk:Hammersoft‎, but I'm hoping that you can be of assistance. Per Hammersoft‎'s wishes, I have no intention of continuing to post there. I am, however, very disappointed in my failure to amicably resolve the dispute. I'm also uncomfortable with the last few edits (in which my repeated attempts to honor his requests and sincere expression of disappointment and optimism for productive teamwork in the future led to me being reverted as a vandal). As you appear to be on good terms with Hammersoft‎, I’d sincerely appreciate any efforts on your part to aid us in mending this rift. The easiest thing would be to simply move on, but I don't want to leave things like this. No matter how strongly Hammersoft and I disagree with one another, I realize that we're here for the same reason (to build an encyclopedia), as I'm certain that you are as well. It's through mutual respect and co-operation (not anger and resentment) that we work toward this goal. Thanks in advance for any help that you're able to provide. —David Levy 22:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Hammersoft and me? Well, we understand each other. I'm not sure how much help I can be in this conflict, but I'll try to do what I can. Nice job archiving your talk page, by the way. I was waiting for that! Enigma 01:33, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

The confrontation you had with Hammersoft is not unusual. Forgive me for being blunt, but it's simply a case of two very stubborn people coming into conflict, and then being unable to resolve it due to sheer stubbornness. He says that you mistreated Ryan and caused him to leave. You admit that what you said probably had something to do with Ryan leaving, but refuse to admit that you mistreated him, and thus won't apologize. Listen, I've been the same way sometimes. I hate when someone insists I apologize for something when I don't feel that I did anything wrong.

You must understand that whether you did something wrong or not is immaterial to this conflict. He's not going to bury the proverbial hatchet until you apologize. You don't want to. He isn't interested in continuing the discourse if you don't want to.

My advice to you would be to leave Ryan a message stating that you did not intend to insult him in any way or to hurt his feelings, and that your comments were meant in good faith. Additionally, express in your own words the desire that he come back to the project. Don't let a disagreement over something silly like April Fools Day turn him away from Misplaced Pages.

I'd love to assist in the matter, but really a third party can do absolutely nothing unless the involved parties are willing to be flexible.

Regards, Enigma Review 02:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your thoughtful advice! I've done my best to write an appropriate message on Ryan's talk page. I truly hope that it helps. —David Levy 06:02, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Good job, by the way. Just saw your message. Enigma Review 13:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Cabals

Hi, could you possibly clarify what you meant by "so much injustice will happen without remedy"? Thanks. :) Keilana| 06:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

You really want my opinion? I won't ever deny people the right to hear my opinion. :)

OK, here we go:

• I found your administrative actions in this case to be completely unacceptable, and as such, I cannot sit idly by.

• I cannot tolerate the ridiculous hypocrisy here. I read through the arguments at AN/I and the hypocrisy was astounding. Two of the recurring arguments was that anything that isn't related to improving the encyclopedia should be gone, and that the "cabals" were too exclusive. Applying that criteria, I could find you many more cabals to delete. Will you Ignore All Rules and delete those? I didn't think so. There is zero consistency here, and apparently it's going to be tolerated without remedy, judging from the highly unproductive RfC.

There you have it. Not that my opinion could possibly matter, but you wanted an explanation. Good night, Enigma 06:29, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your clarification. I of course respect your opinion, thank you for being open and honest. Just by the way, I would support an RfA from you in the next month-2 months, you're on the right track. :) Keep up the good work. Best, Keilana| 06:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

That was rather unexpected, but I appreciate the kind remarks, regardless of our differences. Enigma 06:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Opinions such as this have little bearing on your suitability to be a great admin, if you want another voice to chime in with a co-nom please do give me a poke. :) Best, Keilana| 06:38, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Too many strong opinions can lead to excessive WP:WHEEL-warring. :o Just kidding. I think. I appreciate the offer, and I will keep it in mind. I wasn't familiar with your work in the past, but your ability to separate rather strong opinions in certain places from the user in question is very admirable and you should be commended for this. Enigma 06:43, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, and happy editing. (I just assume we all want what's best for the project, and work from there. It usually turns out OK.) Keilana| 06:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

As long as I could be sure you would not have attempted to enforce your opinion re the cabal deletions with admin powers after the original deletion, I too would also support an RfA - in general I'm quite impressed. Orderinchaos 07:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I was just joking about that. I can assure you that I would never wheel-war. Trying to work it out with the admin in question is always the better option. Thanks for the kind words, Enigma 09:13, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

No worries. :) Orderinchaos 10:00, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Rf4-1-08-B

LOL!! I prefer if you would supply this diff -- Avi (talk) 12:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

You're hurting your own cause here, you know. I couldn't possibly hope to find one showing worse judgment. *rubs hands together gleefully* Enigma 15:54, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Clarification

By that I meant that accounts can do extra things like administration, voting in the RFA, ect. IP's can't do that. It wasn't to be mean BTW.--RyRy5 23:00, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, registered users can do more things, but that doesn't make them more important. Same with admins. They have the ability to do more things, but they aren't "more important" than any user in good standing. Enigma 23:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the thought. For the last two years or so I work as an IP and usually see anything from bad faith assumption to open hostility. It's rare that someone acknowledges that IPs can be editors too.

(I wonder where RyRy5 would answer this if he would want to. Here? On my /Talk?) --87.189.114.149 (talk)

I rephrased it wrong. Sorry.--RyRy5 23:11, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I think everyone would have to acknowledge that IPs can be editors too, given Misplaced Pages's long-standing policy on this. :) Enigma 23:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Try it sometimes. I think it's quite an experience. --87.189.114.149 (talk)

Coaching

Well I gave you my RfA lookover. Right now I'd probably vote for you, but I do tend to be easy going. You've got some things going for you. You've had an account for a longtime, so people will worry less about you being a sleeper sock. You've got more than 7000 contribs and no blocks, other good things. But you're a bit weak in Article talk and Misplaced Pages space edits. Maybe some more WP:XFD edits or a DYK/GA article would help. Sorry, I'm a bit full myself, or I'd coach you personally. I'd say 1.5-2 months before an RfA, but thats just my opinion. MBisanz 03:04, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Gah, you've caught me, I'm an abusive shared role account :). I probably said 2 weeks, hoping you'd start a good number of short articles and what not, which could still work. And this version of my comments focused on GA/DYKs, which are harder to write. I tend to rotate my suggestions and what to emphasize there is no single path to RfA, and well I hit you twice without rereading my comments. Also, it seems like April will be a slim month for RfAs, with rather high standards being applied. When Keeper76 and I went up, we went up when RfAs seemed to have slightly lowered standards. So its sort of a market timing thing. MBisanz 03:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey! I resemble that remark....Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

That's nothing. You might've seen how 'crats were approved in 2004. "Hi, I've been an admin for a few months. I'd like to be a 'crat." A few supports, and then bang, promoted. :) Enigma Review 19:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the welcome back

Hello, thanks for the welcome back! --Kyoko 16:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm just happy you've returned. :) Enigma Review 17:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Dean Mumm

On 13 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dean Mumm, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bencherlite 22:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

This was one you created through WP:AFC, so extra points for that! Bencherlite 22:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Strange, I seem to have left this message in the wrong place earlier, but it made its way here anyway, so all is well....Bencherlite 23:05, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

You're a dangnabbit thief, Enigma. Pat sulks... Scarian 23:06, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

• Congratulations Enigma - I will also begin work on your GA shortly - watch that space and chip in so that you get enough credits to claim the badge. (PS don't tell Scarian or he will try and pinch it of you as a payback :) )--VS 03:43, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I only noticed this today. Thanks! FusionMix 03:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Happy to help. Enigma Review 01:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Adminship

Hey, I noticed you had commented on my RFA standards page. I the found out that you're not an admin and have, in fact, been "almost nominated" about a million times, as indicated at User:Enigmaman/RFAurges. If you ever want to run, I can nominate you, or at least !vote support. Let me know. Useight (talk) 00:47, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words and your offer. Eventually I'm going to have to listen to the people, huh? I expect to go up for RfA within the month. As for nomination, there seem to be a lot of people interested in nominating me for some reason! :) If you have any other comments, be sure to let me know. Thanks again, Enigma Review 01:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Dormant admins

Great minds think alike, what can I say.:-)--Kumioko (talk) 23:41, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my User page. With all of the vandalism I've been reverting (and all of the vandalism-reporting I've been doing, thanks to your suggestion) lately, I'm shocked that my Talk and User pages aren't being spitefully vandalized constantly. But I usually only look for vandalism in articles, so thanks again for keeping an eye on some of the other stuff too.  ‑ MANdARAX XAЯAbИAM  (talk)  01:54, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, such is the burden we vandalism-fighters carry. Enigma Review 02:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Checking

Just seeing how your doing. Looks like your doing great. Remember, you can always keep in touch with me.--RyRy5 (talk) 02:19, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

yep. Did you see my message about redirects? Enigma Review 02:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

You mean our last conversation on my talkpage?--RyRy5 (talk) 04:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Nah. I replied on this talk page and on Burner's talk page. Remember when I asked whether I can view redirects I've created? Enigma Review 04:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, yes I do.--RyRy5 (talk) 04:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

re:

I was just interested in what they would say. In case, in the future, they come up for another Rfa. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:38, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I highly doubt we'll see another RfA from this individual. If we do, the questions can always be asked then. :) Enigma Review 02:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Reverted

I've reverted you. That AfD is not protected and you shouldn't make it appear that it is. SynergeticMaggot (talk) 04:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Do me a favor and next time check before reverting me. It is semi-protected and I don't appreciate being reverted when you haven't even looked. Enigma Review 04:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey now, thats a simple mistake. Take it easy and don't get all worked up. Nothing a revert can't fix. SynergeticMaggot (talk) 04:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Rollback is intended for obvious vandalism. You treated me like a vandal without even looking whether the page was semi-protected or not. Whether the notice should be there or not can be discussed, but using rollback on my edit without even asking me first and then telling me I was misrepresenting the article was rather rude. I'm not worked up. I'm simply informing you that what you did wasn't the proper way to handle the situation. Enigma Review 04:29, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I can use it any way I wish actually. But for your information, I hit it on accident (which is why I was surprised when I was not allowed an edit summary). I'm not concerned with whether the template remains, it was a mistake the lend me to assume it was not protected. You're tone came off being upset. Any way, no worries. See you around. SynergeticMaggot (talk) 04:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Rollback is not to be used any way you wish. It has a narrow application. Please see WP:rollback. Also, everyone makes mistakes, but I'm still confused how you thought the AfD was unprotected. When you edit it, there's a notice there. There's also an ongoing discussion on the talk page about the semi-protection. Enigma Review 04:41, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Do you really wish to go further with this? The rollback feature is available to administrators and users with the rollbacker permission on Misplaced Pages as a fast method of undoing nonproductive edits, usually vandalism. I ignore the vandalism (note the word usually) part of the sentence since I assume good faith when reverting. To make it more clear, I have never edited the AfD in quesiton, and I've had a long day at work and while looking over the history I hadn't noticed that it was semied since you a) weren't an admin and b) there was no sysop-protect in any edit summary close to the template inclusion. Like I said though, simple mistake. :) SynergeticMaggot (talk) 04:50, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

You stated that you can use rollback any way you wish. I'm trying to correct a mistaken impression. If you don't believe me, ask someone who you respect more. I often add semi-protection templates even though I'm not an admin, because some admins don't bother with them. Sometimes I go to WP:RFPP and check that the protected articles received templates. The last instance of semi-protection on the AfD in question was here. As for whether I wish to go further with this, I'm willing to go as far as is necessary. No more and no less. Enigma Review 04:58, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

(outdent)I'm sorry, I don't feel I have it wrong with respect to using rollback, as I've copied the first sentence and I'm sticking by my reasons. I'm going to opt out of the conversation now. Until next time. :) SynergeticMaggot (talk) 05:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Like I said, feel free to request an outside opinion on whether rollback was warranted in this instance. But beyond this instance, I'm a little surprised by your attitude regarding rollback in general. "I can use any way I wish actually." I bear no ill will towards you, but you may wish to investigate that further. Enigma Review 05:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you are aware of the events after this conversation, but this was all miscommunication. I only meant that I'll use it for either vandalism or unproductive edits, whereas I was under the impression that you meant it was only for vandalism. My statement was taken the wrong way, and rollback was removed. I also bear no ill will towards you. I may have gotten a little heated and I never wished to give that impression. See you around. :) SynergeticMaggot (talk) 05:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Good to hear. I was a little surprised to see this conversation back again, but unexpected things happen all the time. Good luck. Might've been a misunderstanding, but I simply don't interpret "any way I wish" as "either vandalism or unproductive edits." Enigma 05:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

• I think it is clear now that SM used a turn of phrase that gave the impression that rollback was a carte blanche to rollback any edit he liked but that he either didn't mean that or doesn't mean that now. Interestingly I get the impression that he would have been quite annoyed if someone had used rollback on his edits they way he did BUT I respect his clarification at this point, even though it has taken some time to come out. He did get a little heated in his first exchange with you but perhaps that was also as a result of tiredness (and that confronts us all at times). For the information of both of you I have returned SM's Rollback Rights and I post that information here because both of you are obviously watching this space. Best wishes to both of you. --VS 07:19, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Sig fix

Thanks for fixing my sig on the AfD, I've been forgetting to sign recently for some reason, thanks. +Hexagon1 05:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

No worries. I had to add sigs for several editors tonight. Must be contagious. :) Enigma Review 05:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Admins

Is there an easy way to tell if a user is an admin? Pdfpdf (talk) 23:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

If they're an admin, it will say so on their userpage on the bottom. Check the bottom of a userpage and see it lists categories. If one is Misplaced Pages administrators... There's also a list of administrators. Enigma 23:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Ta. So, testing the theory, Enigmaman is not an admin. Correct? Pdfpdf (talk) 23:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Correct. Anyone who becomes an admin has to be included in the category and they are as soon as they pass their WP:RfA. Enigma 00:11, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

It has come to my attention that some admins refuse to add themselves to Category:Misplaced Pages administrators. Thus, the only sure way to know if someone is an admin is to check WP:list of admins. Enigma Review 23:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm sure that will save me some confusion. Good of you to follow up on it - most appreciated. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Censorship?

Revision as of 21:53, 22 April 2008 A. Exeunt (Talk | contribs)(→Warning: Blanked section; personal attack.)

I'm a little bemused by Exeunt's action. Clearly, from your response to it, the original post didn't bother you. To me it seems inappropriate for a third party to remove both it AND your response. Had you not responded, perhaps it fits into the class of reverting vandalism, but reversion of both seems like censorship to me, perhaps even vandalism.

In any case, I found your response entertaining and revealing of your attitudes, and hence important data for an edit review.

Your thoughts?

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I considered undoing his edit, but I decided not to bother. It's in my archives anyway. I don't even get how he came to this page in the first place. Enigma Review 13:41, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Re recently blocked vandal

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I've now extended the block to 6 months and protected the user talk page as requested. Waggers (talk) 10:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Vandal warnings

Hey there. Could you please ensure that you warn vandals before reporting them to AIV? This guy, for example, had made only one edit before your report, and hadn't been warned, and I noted a couple others before that with no warnings. Thanks! Tony Fox (arf!) 17:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

It was an account created explicitly to vandalize Colorado Avalanche. Please see article history. Enigma Review 17:54, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I just posted a note at WP:ANI. I believe my reports to AIV were rightful. Enigma Review 18:00, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Just trying to ensure we follow the formalities. Apparently I'm wrong, judging from the quick blocks by other admins. My bad, I guess. Tony Fox (arf!) 18:02, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't normally report without warning, obviously. I happen to be familiar with Misplaced Pages's vandalism policy. This was a unique situation. Enigma Review 18:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

No offense meant here. My error in judgment all the way. Tony Fox (arf!) 21:15, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: Tangbot Failed

Hi there,

I'm not quite sure what the problem is with the bot, I looked and it appears that it has been inactive for over and hour. Tangotango might be doing some type of update on it, but I haven't found any information regarding this anywhere so far. I'll see if I can find out more information and I'm sorry that I don't know what's wrong!

The Helpful One 19:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Nothing444 2

I don't think this close within eight minutes of it being transcluded was particularly appropriate; WP:SNOW should be saved for newbies, not established contributors. -- Naerii 00:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Especially as you yourself opposed. -- Naerii 00:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, ok, that was my mistake, but I'm not sure if you're familiar with the history here. I think it was entirely appropriate for a SNOW closure, whether by myself or by someone else. Enigma Review 00:16, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I don't agree that WP:SNOW closures are only for newbie applications. I think they can be applied in other extreme cases, and this is an example. I guess I shouldn't have opposed if I was going to close it, but that can't be helped. I could strike my oppose if you'd like. Enigma Review 00:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Not 'only', no, but it had been eight minutes and there have been RfAs which have turned around even with such a poor start - my point is that Nothing is an editor in (reasonably) good standing and should at least have been given a chance to respond. He's been around for long enough that he's aware of how the process works, I'm sure he would have withdrawn if he felt it necessary. -- Naerii 00:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Trust me, I am familiar with the candidate and he's not aware of how the process works. There's not really much more I can say to you here. I suggest you speak to User:Friday or a few others I could recommend. Enigma Review 00:27, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

This might have been a good reason to leave the RfA open. Now the editor might think that he has a chance in a few months; leaving it open would have been (probably) a pile on of editors telling him to edit and not try again for at least 6 months. Dan Beale-Cocks 12:16, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

• If he tries another one soon, it will also be SNOW-closed. I really don't think leaving that kind of thing open is productive. Enigma 13:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough, I'm not going to argue the point at length (it's not worth it). Can you at least please make a note on his talk page? Thanks. -- Naerii 00:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I will do that immediately. It was my mistake not to add it to the category and leave a note, as procedure dictates. Thanks, Enigma Review 00:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Sorry for being brusque (it's 2:30am here :P) -- Naerii 00:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

In case you forgot, I have added the RfA to Misplaced Pages:Unsuccessful adminship candidacies/N. Please remember to do this, and also notify the candidate that you have withdrawn the RfA. For what it's worth, I don't believe there was any chance of the RfA passing, and therefore was a good closure. seresin ( ¡? ) 00:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

My mistake. If I close any RfAs in the future, I'll be sure to do that. Thanks for cleaning up after me! Enigma Review 00:27, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I just wanted to drop a comment. I've known Nothing444 for a while now, and I agree that Nothing444 is not even close for adminship. 1.) He has been blocked many times 2.) He edits in his userspace too often. 3.) He has not shown any or much good contributions to wikipedia. 4.) I noticed that since he lost rollback, he has (almost) never reverted vandalism 5.) He is too enthusiastic and thinks that Misplaced Pages is just a play place and a social place. 6.) He has wanted t be an admin ever since he joined wikipedia and concentrates to much on that. He was almost forgot why we are all here.

I know some of these are details, but if he continous this, there will be no way he will pass an RFA. Comments?--RyRy5 (talk) 00:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

My Edit

I was looking at the article's name. I read through and didn't seen any other instances of the di being spelled with an uppercase. So I just lowered it. Forgot to mark as minor so sorry for that. Well I am not complaining you do as you please. I was just running through. Rgoodermote  00:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Hm it appears that it is lowered and raised at random. Not counting beginning sentences. Well..before this makes part of my head explode I better stay away from there. By the way..no...not a chance will I bring that type of discussion to a talk page. It just has the potential to become a huge problem that could potentially worsen the situation with that article. Rgoodermote  01:04, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

How many did you get? I tried..and failed (Openoffice doesn't seem to be working today). Rgoodermote  01:08, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Fixed Openoffice (long story), I count 14-15 lowercase not counting references and article name. Rgoodermote  01:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

If you say so. I will be there in a little bit. I just need to finish with some thing offline. Rgoodermote  01:46, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: The evidence you requested

LOL. Well, I'm not one of those fans. If I were, I wouldn't have done this. - Rjd0060 (talk) 04:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

You're fighting against your own fanbase! For shame! :) Enigma Review 04:08, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I try to leave my POV at the login screen... - Rjd0060 (talk) 04:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

....for this. Prashanthns (talk) 10:58, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, could you tell me how to get the latest version of Huggle? I have a 0.6 and would like to upgrade, but I am not on the email list as I got it from another user. I have emailed Gurch about it, but I guess he is busy. Any ideas? Prashanthns (talk) 11:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll e-mail you. Enigma 14:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I assume you tried e-mailing Gurch? Enigma 15:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. And today, I got Gurch's version too, which probably means, that from now onwards, I am on the list of people that he sends his updates to. Prashanthns (talk) 10:45, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep. You're on his list now. :) Enigma 13:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for this and the RfA removal! I had completely forgotten! Prashanthns (talk) 19:06, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I completely forgot about this conversation with you. No problem! :) Enigma 19:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

vicious personal attack

updating counter after vicious personal attack

Go and see all the vicious personal attacks this user made against me before you start branding! TheProf07 (talk) 16:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if the user has attacked you or not. Even if he has, that's not an excuse to vandalize his userpage. Enigma 16:42, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

It was just a parting gift, i assure you. This is my last hour on wikipedia. The "vandalising" is over, so relax bro! TheProf07 (talk) 16:44, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Sad to hear that you're leaving. However, if you wish to express frustration with another editor, vandalizing their userpages is not an appropriate response. Enigma 16:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

re:Blank e-mail

That's OK. I have to go in a minute though... RC-0722 /1 16:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, and thanks. :) RC-0722 /1 17:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Giovanni di Stefano

I sort-of-kind-of did - the main reason for keeping the article is that editors shouldn't have their editing affected by legal threats, and I feel as though that needs to be reflected in the article. If someone feels like adding it back in, I don't care enough to stop them, but I'm not going to add it back in myself either. Hersfold 12:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

SOCK RFA

Do the whole normal close thing, update the logs and what not. If he is socking, we'll just delete, but if SimpsonsFan08 stays around, we'll need this as a record for RFA_3. MBisanz 20:45, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm in the process of closing it. Thanks. Enigma 20:47, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep, everything is right. And now the fun begins, the SSP against the candidate Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/SimpsonsFan08. MBisanz 20:54, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

SNOW template

Yeah, I saw that you signed for me, thanks. :) The template actually comes from EVula; it's User:EVula/admin/Premature RfA. You're more than welcome to use it. GlassCobra 15:51, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Patrolling

Yes, as long as its been dealt with, either reviewed or tagged for deletion, then it should be marked patrolled. MBisanz 05:23, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Good job

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		For your work with the last Award Center Collaboration of the Fortnight, I hereby award you this barnstar. Thank you for your improvements to the article on United States-Australia Relations. --Sharkface/C 18:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Rohingya

203.81.72.200 user is repeatedly vendilize the rohingya article . please take care it .. thanks--Nykoko (talk) 01:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

The vandalism emanating from the IP is very sporadic, but it's almost certainly the same user due to the repeated targeting of the same page. I gave it another warning and will keep an eye on its contributions. Enigma 01:32, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert

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That IP managed to hit me right as my professor decided to give us a quiz. Thanks for keeping an eye on things. :-) Hersfold 20:39, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome.

Likewise. · AndonicO 23:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Murder, Madness, and Mayhem

(copied over from my talk page:) And thanks to you! --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 06:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the AfD fix

Huh, how weird. I'll go check twinkle's bug reports. Thanks for the fix. --Bfigura 03:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

Thanks

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RfA

Will you let me know when you want to be nominated at RfA? - DiligentTerrier (and friends) 21:44, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I would also like to know.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 21:45, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

A few more weeks, perhaps. I will not be needing a nomination, but thank you for offering. Enigma 03:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

You're planning an RfA? Let me know when. Basketball110 /_{Tell me yours} 03:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Pat pisses on his territory whilst yawning... O HAI. -.- Scarian 09:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Thats a pitty. I just had to stop my nomination because of this thread. :/ SynergeticMaggot (talk) 15:40, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow that was quick

I step away from my machine to play video games (Ace Combat 6 to be precise) and when I return my user page, such as it is, has been vandalized by some IP and reverted by you. Thanks! Dbrodbeck (talk) 00:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Barnstarred

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		For curtailing terpidiot vandalism on my userpage, I, Matt, award you, Engima, this RAoK Barnstar. Rock on. Non Curat Lex (talk) 20:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I have proposed a merger of the articles for the three middle schools of the Palo Alto Unified School District into the main article for the district. Discussion is here. I'm notifying everyone who was involved in the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Jane Lathrop Stanford Middle School. Thanks, Darkspots (talk) 15:26, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Dell970

You seem to have beat me to closing (I pulled it off the RfA main page as you were closing the subpage). (Which is fine, since I pulled an IAR to overcome the fact that I !voted). Are you planning to list on the unsuccessful page, or should I? --Bfigura 03:18, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll handle it. :) I like to make sure I complete all the steps when I close an RfA. Sorry it's taking a few minutes. I'm juggling a few things right now. Enigma 03:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

:( You beat me to it. Enigma 03:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

'doh Sorry about that. I didn't see a response, so I just went and did it. Apologies for my being hasty :( Best, --Bfigura 03:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Good work you two! Tiptoety 03:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, just to let you know about this thread. Regards, Cenarium (talk) 13:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Saw most of it last night. Now I see his reply. I'm just wondering how he became a CEO of "a major company" without the ability to spell basic words or write coherently. Enigma 15:43, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

No I do not plan to ask you for advice, as you assume situations before you know both sides, you know what assume does? Makes a ass out of you and me.

I was found innocent, by several admins and you insist on calling me a racist, you’re a prick and I don’t plan to talk to you at all. Anyone who jumps to conclusions is not welcome to speak to myself. Your extremely biased, and I wont be watching your reply nor reading it. Your a fucking idiot, all my words were spelled right. Dell970 (talk) 15:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Hilarious. You even misspelled a personal attack. Now I'm quite convinced that your account wasn't hijacked at all. Enigma 15:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

"Your a fucking idiot, all my words were spelled right" — love it — iridescent 21:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Not sure why

Well, it is a wiki, if it is a big concern please do add him back, but I don't consider him missing, as in without a trace such as many of those listed there. It's not a big enough deal to me to really care, have at it. IvoShandor (talk) 06:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks but no thanks. Happy editing. IvoShandor (talk) 08:58, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: RE:86.166.116.25

Oh. Well, I'm fairly certian that he/she/it gets the message. Imperial Star Destroyer (talk) 17:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

No, not really. And don't call me it please, that's very rude. 86.168.137.63 (talk) 17:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: IP you blocked

Hm, looks like a sockfarm going on. I'll look into your SSP report, thanks. Spellcast (talk) 17:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Have a cookie

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Thanks. :) I'm eating chocolate right now, so I'll take a cookie with that. Enigma 20:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

3RR warning

Also, warning the other user when you're directly involved in the dispute, was rather inappropriate. Please explain to me how it's 'inappropriate' when the 3RR noticeboard page states, "If you find yourself in a revert war, you should ensure that the "other side" is aware of the three-revert rule, especially if they are new, by leaving a warning about the rule on their talk page..."? Add that to the mandatory warning notice on the template for reporting the 3RR, and it appeared my warning of the disruptive editor was mandatory, regardless of my participation on the article. --Faith (talk) 21:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Edit-warring either way. You get the gist. Enigma 01:45, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't know why you archived an active conversation, but I am replacing it so I can reply here rather than in your archive. Again, I'm kindly requesting you please explain, so if it's a mistake I won't make it again, how it's 'inappropriate' when the 3RR noticeboard page states to follow that method? Faith (talk) 06:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't aware the noticeboard said that. Apparently, I was wrong. I'll redact that portion of the warning. Enigma 06:59, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

No worries, then. I'm glad I wasn't mistaken. Faith (talk) 08:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Just to say hai

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Rfb participation thanks

Hello, Enigma.

I wanted to personally thank you for taking part in the project-wide discussions regarding my candidacy for bureaucratship. After bureaucratic discussion, the bureaucrats decided that there was sufficient significant and varied opposition to my candidacy, and thus no consensus to promote. Although personally disappointed, I both understand and respect their decision, especially in light of historical conservatism the project has had when selecting its bureaucrats. If you have any further suggestions or comments as to how you think I could help the project, please let me know. Once again, thank you for your both your early and strong support, and next time, I'll know not to close Sean's rfB early -- Avi (talk) 17:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Your recent IP reverts

Hi. In case you hadn't noticed. The IP edits you recently reverted, 68.102.236.10 (talk · contribs). The same person also edits under the account name User:Behemoth91. The IP has been blocked before for genre trolling. If you know an administrator who might be familiar with this editor perhaps they could be blocked again. Both IP and account. Cheers and take care. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 23:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, he's been around a while under a few different IPs, too. I'll speak to User:Scarian. Enigma 23:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 23:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

IP blocked three months and account blocked indefinitely. I'm reverting the edits of the account as well. Thanks for telling me. :) Enigma 23:43, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Congrats

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		I hereby award you this barnstar for your edits and also your highly intellectual philosophy. Thank You! Buddha24 (talk) 05:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

WBOSITG's RfA

Hello Enigmaman, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your participation in my RfA which was passed with a final tally of 114/10/4. I'm both shocked and honoured to gain so much support from users whom I admire and trust, and I hope I can avoid breaking that backing by being the best administrator I possibly can. I will take on board the opposition's comments and I hope to improve over the coming months and years. Once again, thank you! weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 20:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi Enigmaman; I wanted to say thank you for supporting my request for adminship, which passed with 100 supports, 0 opposes and 1 neutral. I wanted to get round everybody individually, even though it's considered by some to be spam (which... I suppose it is! but anyway. :)). It means a lot to me that the community has placed its trust in my ability to use the extra buttons, and I only hope I can live up to its expectations. If you need anything, or notice something that bothers you, don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks again, PeterSymonds | talk 21:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Requesting deletion

Hmm, my initial read was that there might be some useful discussion there, but that doesn't seem to be the case. *Poof!* :-) east.718 at 20:36, May 14, 2008

Yea

I know, I saw it, busy with other things, will get to it. Feel free to hit SSP though... MBisanz 20:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

sorry

Dear Misplaced Pages users and staff, I would like to express my sorrow for all the trouble I've caused you. Please understand that I have learned from my mistakes. I did not intentionally vandalize Misplaced Pages. I really really want to be a Misplaced Pages administrator, and please answer this question, what are the odds of a blocked user becoming a Misplaced Pages administrator. Well I don't really know what the odds are, but I doubt they are high. I am forced to give you this apology not in my talk page, because somebody protected my talk page so people can't contact me, and so I can't say I'm sorry. One of these days I will become a Misplaced Pages administrator and help people with their problems. I will also stop vandalism, I will be able to convince the vandals that are good and don't know that they are vandalising Misplaced Pages that what they are doing is wrong (I can get throught to these people, because I used to be one of them). I can get through to them, that way no one has to go through what I've been through ever again. I will also make very important edits about very important topics. Some of these topics include Prussia, the SS Free, Praize, Halo Delta, Subsim, Sword Forum International, Three Sixty Pacific, and others. Everyone, the only way we can fight rogue admins is if we all join together, remember there are more of us than there are of them, don't forget that 95% of Misplaced Pages's admins are actually good, I hate to say it but............Daniel Case could have originally been a good admin, he just likes banning people a lot. I will also pass Misplaced Pages rules against what Daniel Case did to me and so many others like me. I will also fix the blocking system, I will make it so people aren't automatically blocked, they will recieve a fair trial in which they are innocent until proven guilty. I will also remove the speedy deletion bot and so every article gets a fair trial before it is automatically deleted for no reason by a bot. I will also improve Misplaced Pages by making it more reliable, together we can make it so schools and universities allow Misplaced Pages as a source. I can not bring about this change alone, we must stand together, this is the world's encyclopedia/wiki/online encyclopedia, not just the admins, everyone has a say in the New Misplaced Pages. But before I can do all these great things, I have to be unblocked, like I said before, what are the odds of a blocked member being an administrator, some of you may say "Well if he/she is blocked, I don't think they can be that good of an admin, since they can't edit". But people, I'm not a bad person, I am here for you. I care about YOU! We need to think before we edit WIKIPEDIA! WE MUST STAND UNITED! OR VANDALS WILL DESTROY ALL OF WHICH WE FOUGHT SO HARD TO BUILD! Please people, take my hand, we shall make Misplaced Pages whole again. I will never again vandalize Misplaced Pages, the times in the past that I did, I am deeply sorry, but I can't change what I did, we have to live with it, we have to move on. Just think to yourself, what would Jesus do? Would Jesus smite me for making a mistake, or would he forgive me and give me a second or third chance? Do you know that pretty much every single day, for the past 2 years, I have apologized to Daniel Case and the other admins, for what I have done. And all they do is block the IP address and laugh at me. Please, look into your heart, I am deeply sorry. Please forgive me, I am not a poster, I am not an IP address, I am not a vandal, I am not a spammer, I am not a Wikipedian that apologizes to people just to get laughed at, I am not a Wikipedian at all, and neither are you, we are human beings, and its about time we get treated like we are. Did you know, that Daniel Case, hates me so much, that he wanted to ban all dial-up people whoi use Misplaced Pages. He also wanted to ban a company. If you don't believe me, read the ANI Notice led by Daniel Case about banning me. He talks about how much fun it would be to ban all Level 3 Communications Internet people. He thinks I use Level 3, which I don't, but he wanted to ban everyone for using the same type of Internet as me. He banned a company from Misplaced Pages, he banned Reenactor Entertainment's website and all of there games's websites just for fun. He also banned all InvisionFree users and urls, just because I use InvisionFree forums and he hates forums now. He banned all ZetaBoards forums and users as well, because InvisionFree's company, Zathyious Systems also made ZetaBoards. Can you be any more prejudice? I mean this guy makes the KKK look like a couple of Zerglings on StarCraft. Please unban me, I beg of you! People please, if you think I deserve another chance, please reply, and say it, please.--xgmx (T | C | D | R | DR)

I'm still not sure how I'm involved in all this. Enigma 22:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Me either, o well get used to it, we all are clueless. MBisanz 22:37, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

You might be interested in my

Are you interested

???Balloonman (talk) 06:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Wait, what? Enigma 13:52, 15 May 2008 (UTC)