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- Suspected sockpuppeteer
M.V.E.i. (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Suspected sockpuppets
MaIl89 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
79.183.110.85 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
79.178.15.123 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Report submission by
Papa November (talk) 11:22, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Evidence
Having read Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/M.V.E.i. and Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/M.V.E.i. (2nd), and received another editors opinion on the matter, I think there's some strong evidence for block evasion going on here.
- MaIl89 signed post by IP, strong evidence that they are the same user: (note - this isn't proof of M.V.E.i.'s sockpuppetry, only evidence that the IP and MaIl89 are the same editor. Papa November (talk) 11:28, 18 June 2008 (UTC))
Many of the blocked user's editing patterns are present:
- Strong focus on articles relating to ethnic Russians. A quick look at the contributions lists confirms this
- Distinctive pattern of unusual spelling/grammatical errors, including:
- Strings of the letter 'h' repeated at the start of sentences; a very unusual construct: M.V.E.i. 79.183.110.85
- Lower case personal pronoun ('i' instead of 'I'): MVEi, MVEi, 79.178.15.123, 79.183.110.85, MaIl89
- SHOUTING in edit summaries M.V.E.i., MaIl89 and in discussions M.V.E.i., 79.183.110.85
- Starting unnecessary/bad faith admin action requests: (see first sock case for M.V.E.i. examples), MaIl89, MaIl89, MaIl89, 79.178.15.123
- Chronology of account use
This may also be useful to consider:
- 2007-10-07: User:M.V.E.i. blocked for 1 year
- 2007-10-13: User:M.V.E.i. block timer reset for block evasion
- 2007-10-31: User:No Free Nickname Left created
- 2007-12-22: User:No Free Nickname Left blocked as sockpuppet
- 2007-12-22: User:M.V.E.i. block timer reset for block evasion
- 2008-01-11: User:Schpakovich created
- 2008-05-10: User:Schpakovich blocked as sockpuppet
- 2008-05-10: User:M.V.E.i. block timer reset for block evasion
- 2008-05-23: User:MaIl89 created
- Comments
I'm not this user. A. I'm interested in Russia. And? many are are all of them one user? B. When a user doesn't know how to complain about a problem he goes to the incidents page. I'm not the only one there. C. I CANT SHOUT BY WRITTING!!! I outline what i want to say this way. I'm lazy to put this things. And i'm not the only one to do that. For now all i did was good. For example returning the Belarusians talk page which was exidentaly deleted by an administrator and now it was returned. I want to the administrators notice board for that. S*** on me!!! How could i do that? Ah, because i'm not an admin and couldnt restore it myself. Just for the record. This Melesse who complained about me to the user that complaines here has exelent reasons to lie on me. On the Russians talk page she lost an argument to me. Same think User:Papa November. I simply started a vote, which i won. On them i couldn't say they know to loose with honour. P.S. What was she doing in the Russian talk page?? Is she MVEi? How did she know about him anyway? I havent heard of him till now. The reason i signed with my IP and then later changed it to my nickname is because for a few days i couldn't remember my password. When i remembered it i switched it so people could also answer me. This MVEi is an old editor as i see so he did it just because he was lazy to sign in probably. MaIl89 (talk) 11:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Please see WP:SHOUT - use intelligent discussion rather than capital letters and bold text to emphasise your meaning.
- Talk:Belarusians was a broken redirect page. The discussions were not deleted - it still existed at Talk:Belarusian people, and an admin wasn't required to fix it. If you don't know how to do something, it's fine to ask for help, but you stepped way over the line by describing the deleting admin's actions as "absurd" and stating your temptation to "delete everything written on that administrators talk page" You need to assume good faith - the admin made a minor mistake, and didn't deserve the response you gave. Papa November (talk) 11:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- comment: Regarding the insinuation of User:Melesse's sockpuppetry, M.V.E.i. has a previous pattern of launching unsubstantiated "counter-attacks". See this frivolous case launched in response to M.V.E.i.'s first sock case. Papa November (talk) 12:05, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- I havent known those stuff thats why i thought it was an admins deletion. I havent known the capitel letters thing. Oh cmmon. Soon you'll say "And MVEi used English, just like you". Really! Your saying too general things. You blame me for something i'm not. MVEi was blocked and i dont know why but i guess he did something to get it. What did i do? I'm confused why i'm being blamed and for what. Did i vandelise anything? Were i edit-waring? We had an argument? I did a vote. A fair vote and you have seen yourself i had a fair argument with you responsing to all you say and giving you respect! Could you please explaine me what have i done and why am i blamed to be this MVEi? I say again, i'm not. MaIl89 (talk) 12:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- P.S. The "bad faith" edits were later removed by me because i started a vote and decided that unless she will start a revert war even though loosing a vote, then i'll complain. Till then no need. MaIl89 (talk) 12:33, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- There is no issue with the vote at Talk:Russians, this case is being presented because there are very specific similarities between your editing style and those of a blocked editor, which have been listed above. Creating a new account to evade a block is not permitted, and that is why your account has been reported. Papa November (talk) 13:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- I havent known those stuff thats why i thought it was an admins deletion. I havent known the capitel letters thing. Oh cmmon. Soon you'll say "And MVEi used English, just like you". Really! Your saying too general things. You blame me for something i'm not. MVEi was blocked and i dont know why but i guess he did something to get it. What did i do? I'm confused why i'm being blamed and for what. Did i vandelise anything? Were i edit-waring? We had an argument? I did a vote. A fair vote and you have seen yourself i had a fair argument with you responsing to all you say and giving you respect! Could you please explaine me what have i done and why am i blamed to be this MVEi? I say again, i'm not. MaIl89 (talk) 12:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Conclusions