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Re: About Mu`awwidhatayn

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Islamic view of anal sex

Hey Elazeez! I reinstated the change you had reverted in the above-mentioned article. I would be curious to understand your point of view. Why don't you leave me a message? Cheers Mrbluesky (talk) 20:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello again, and thanks for taking the time to reply. I see your point (and incidentally I agree that the sources provided are feeble at best), but in any case, the statement made in the article and the sources do not concur. You are of course entitled to keep the statement, but I believe taht you should then delete the reference to the sources entirely in the article, to keep the article is consistent. Have a brilliant day ! Mrbluesky (talk) 12:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Criticism of Islam

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Respect to Islam

Greetings most benevolent Elazeez.

I grew up with the stories of the old and the new testament, the old testament was for me a reason to study polytheism and the new testament was for me a reason to study Human Rights. My religion of choice is Syncretic Polytheism, but I also have respect for Monotheism.

I think it is very sad that people have disrespected Islam.

This proves that European sentiment is still Nazi savagery, I'm European and I can't stand racism & prejudices. Judaism & islam have been victimised and the justice system worldwide has been bribed, I pray for the people in Iraq. The Iraq war & Afghanistan war are all based on false premises, so basically the lies, hatred & imbecility started hatred towards Islam and I had enough of these prejudices.

Because white supremacists gave Europeans a bad name and I had enough. Phalanx Pursos 01:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

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From Bless_sins

Assalamualikum!

I wanted to pay my greeting to you, after having seen you around. I think that your conclusion on wikipedia and the Qur'an is very interesting.Bless sins (talk) 06:25, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Cheers

Thanx for informing, all of his 5 edits have been vandalism. If he does it again he will be blocked as a vandal only account. I will monitor him. Cheers. --— Realist (Come Speak To Me) 17:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

It irked me to see in English the EXACT OPPOSITE of what is in the Arabic Hadith. The whole page needs a re-write. Unflavoured (talk) 07:48, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Contentious Claim in Zakir Naik Edit Summary

In a recent edit you state "Removing word 'Hafiz' since he is not one. (word slipped in by Agnistus during )" which is totally untrue since the word was added by Arthur in . Please refrain from indulging in such misbehavior. - Agnistus (talk) 14:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

BTW, Hafiz is a term used by Muslims for people who have completely memorized the Qur'an. So why not say Hafiz Dr. Zakir... - Agnistus (talk) 07:32, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Note: If replying, reply under Zakir Naik section in my talk page - Agnistus (talk) 07:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I understand. Thankyou - Agnistus (talk) 07:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Moved NPA section downwards & strike out

Dear Abdel, I have moved the NPA section you created downwards to where the de-striked comments were. Those comments were directed towards Itaqallah (not you) who has been sublimely rude to me from the very first time (before I was to him). I have also striked out (the hate-filled part of) the comment in question. Thankyou. - Agnistus (talk) 12:01, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Archive part of Talk:Zakir Naik

Talk:Zakir Naik is now over 120 KB.

I suggest moving the first 4 sections of Talk:Zakir Naik into Archive 2:

• 1 Article is still disputed.
• 2 Article should be deleted.
• 3 Article must be balanced.
• 4 What the article really needs is:

Please tell me if you agree by 20:00, June 20th 2008 (UTC). Thankyou. - Agnistus (talk) 12:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I disagree with the archiving since all of these sections involve current discussion. 'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 07:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Islam and Sikhism

Respected User:Elazeez, Thank you very much for your kind advice. Actually, I did not delete any information from this article and I did not add any information to this article either, I was just struggling to save it from vandalism. If you read my comments in User talk:90.192.59.97, you can easily conclude that this guy has extremist right wing Hindu idiology. Eventhough I requested him to refrain from doing vandalism in religious articles, he still kept distorting Sikh religious information either to make it appear anti-muslim or to make a fun of it... Singh6 (talk) 01:58, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Judaism's view of Muhammad

I replied to you my talk page. ephix (talk) 20:09, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Copying from Ephix's talkpage

Shalom aleichem brother Ephix. Noticed your recent edits to two articles (viz. Qur'an and Muhammed (pbuh)) and thought I'd pay you a a visit to offer kind greetings. Your latest article Judaism's view of Muhammad seems like its off to a good start, and Insha'Allah I too will try helping expand it with some of the authentic resources that I have. Please do let me know if you need any authentic resources/information about Muhammad(pbuh)'s life or the Islamic connections to Judaism. Shalom 'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 10:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Abd, thanks for the greetings. I would like to point that this article is distinct from the article Muhammad and the Jews in that it deals with Judaism's view of Muhammad as the tile might indicate. I will thus be edit and mainly summarising your edits as the main purpose of the article is deal with Muhammad from a religious perspective, as opposed to a purely historical one. Please see more on the article's talk page. Thanks again. ;) ephix (talk) 20:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... That's odd, I didn't know that article (viz. Muhammad and the Jews) existed. Nevermind though, I'll assist with editing and summarizing of the content that I've posted yesterday. 'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 06:30, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

That would be a great help. Please summarise it to a paragraph. Thanks! ephix (talk) 07:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:

Wa `alaykum as-Salam. Thanks for your concern... just been a bit busy! I'll be happy to have a quick look through the article. ITAQALLAH 17:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Agnistus Note

How do you know I am a South Indian ? - Agnistus (talk) 20:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

I didn't know. T'was probably just a co-incidence. 'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 07:01, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

You recent additions to Zakir Naik was notable (Pope controversy & expansion of Yazid issue). I recommend you scale down the paragraph on the Yazid issues. Especially irrelevent to a BLP is material regarding location, name and duration of the lecture, quote: "organized a 10-day international Islamic conference and exhibition titled The Peace Conference at the Somaya grounds in Mumbai".

Also please avoid including un-encyclopedic sentences like: "According to Naik, it was the to be the first conference of its kind in the history of the Muslim world and was to be 'a global kaleidoscope presenting Islam as a religion of peace and to explain that justice, human rights, moral values and peace are a must for effective human progress and global unity."

Try to keep things short, informative and to-the-point.

Thank you. - Agnistus (talk) 19:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

You are right, the article by Khaled covers several other views of Naik. You want to know why the other views were'nt covered as well. It is not practical to include all the points made in an article, since as I said before; while writing an Enclyclopedia "Try to keep things short, informative and to-the-point.". The pioint was selected because it was more significant than the other points and since the destruction of Bamiyan statues is queite an important incident w.r.t. the others. Nevertheless, you may add other points made in Khaled's article too, if you wish. - Agnistus (talk) 20:10, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Do not remove properly sourced content

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- Agnistus (talk) 20:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome Agnistus (I've been around for quite a while though :). Have you had the chance to have a look at the talk page for Zakir Naik yet? 'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 11:21, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Elazeez, I have removed the vandalism warning from your talk page - it is clearly unwarranted. Even if Agnistus thinks you are wrong in a content dispute, a position he is entitled to, it is highly disingenuous to disregard the concerns raised and dismiss opposition as vandalism - especially when they have been explained in detail on talk. ITAQALLAH 01:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I would also suggest that you try sticking to the discussion at hand, as talk pages aren't for the expression of personal opinions or speculation - they're there to discuss matters strictly related to improving the article. Other discussions only serve as a distraction from the issues at hand. Regards, ITAQALLAH 01:44, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

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I would like to talk to you

Dear Abdel, I would like to talk to you on phone. I believe you are residing in India (from your user page). Reply on my talk page or send me your cell-phone number to agnistus at gmail dot com. Yours sincerely, Agnistus (talk) 07:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC).

Dear Agnistus, I'm sorry I do not entertain any unsolicited phone calls, especially from people I come across on the internet... I hope you'll understand why. 'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 09:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

We could, however, have a hearty conversation on my talk page. 'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 09:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

P.S. A word of advice from a fellow Indian: considering the pros and cons of the amount of privacy the internet has to offer, it may not be prudent to give out your email ID on a publicly available webpage. 'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 09:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I personally feel a phone conversation would be a more effective way of sorting out matters. You still have the option to have a phone-discussion. - Agnistus (talk) 10:20, 18 July 2008 (UTC).

Umm, 'sorting out matters'? As co-editors for WP, I don't see any necessity for that. Thanks anyways, will consider your proposal some other time InshaAllah. 'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 10:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I would also like to discuss some non-WP stuff related to Islam, e.t.c. with you. What do you say? - Agnistus (talk) 10:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC).

I'd be pleased to help with that as far as I can InshaAllah. Lets start here right away then. 'Abd el 'Azeez (talk) 09:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Agnistus' Dialogue

Copy from Dr. Zakir Naik's talk page
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BTW a reply to Abdel's statement: "I totally respect your religious views (See Qur'an 6:108 which beckons muslims to respect other communities)". I ask the Muslims, if you can quote 6:108; then why not quote Qu'ran 9:5 (At-Tawba 5) ? This verse truly shows what Islam thinks of non-believers (kafirs). Quote Ibn Kathir's commentary on the verse: