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Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Ehud Lesar

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Ehud Lesar/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Ehud Lesar/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, — Rlevse • Talk • 02:56, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, could you please help me with the Turkish vandal "XMurat" constantly changing the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/Recognition_of_the_Armenian_Genocide

and the map: http://commons.wikimedia.org/Image:ArmenianGenocideRecognition.png

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.158.196.73 (talk) 19:48, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

OTRS

Yes, I can confirm that OTRS has an email from the Content Manager of ArmeniaDiaspora.com giving permisson. --Golbez (talk) 04:05, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

The term "Azerbaijani"

Do you know if there has been any extensive discussion on Misplaced Pages about the use/misuse of this word. It is my opinion that an "Azerbaijani" is a citizen of Azerbaijan. The republic of Azerbaijan did not exist before May 1918, so nobody prior to that date could be called an "Azerbaijani" (they would either be ethnic Tartars (or ethnic Azeri Tartars) or ethnic Armenians, and so on). And, furthermore, it could be argued that anybody who was a citizen of Azerbaijan after that date, even if they were Armenian or Georgian, could also legitimately be called an "Azerbaijani". Meowy 16:32, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Map

User:Steelmate recommended not showing the individual states and I just went along with his proposal. Whether we include them or not, I have no issue either way. You can bring this up on the "Recognition of the Armenian Genocide" article talk page. -- Aivazovsky (talk) 16:51, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Aram Andonian

Hello VartanM,

I have asked a question about Aram Andonian which received no answer, and the article still contains the line " worked for the Young Turk government during World War I. Andonian served in the department of military censorship" which I have not read anywhere else... Is it correct ? Since he was arrested on April 24th, 1915 (according to Yves Ternon, Enquête sur la négation d'un génocide, amongst others), it is highly unrealistic (to say the least) that he was working fot the military censorship, or am I missing something ? I am sorry to bother you, but I thought that my question was too specific to flood the WikiProject Armenia and anyway you answer most questions there ;)) And you edited the article on Aram Andonian not long ago.

Best regards,

--Moumine70 (talk) 21:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC) (if you want to answer, it is better to do it on my French talk page...)

Ok, don't worry, this "information" has been in the article for such a long time that one or two weeks more will not make a big difference. Thank you and best regards, --Moumine70 (talk) 09:21, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Criticism

Hey! Why are you repeatedly changing my contributions (to the articles Armenian National Committee of America, David Mayer de Rothschild, and Bilderberg Group), and saying that I don't provide references and reliable sources? I have provided 5 sources on each of them, so don't try to cover up the truth! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.229.25.221 (talk) 01:37, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I only reverted you once on the ANCA page because it was unsourced POV claim. VartanM (talk) 02:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

CfD on Category:Holocaust deniers

I'm afraid you can't do that. You can't just add an unrelated category to a CfD discussion. Imagine if it was an AfD discussion; someone nominated an article about soup for deletion then a few days later you added an article about football. That just wouldn't work. If you really want to nominate Holocaust deniers then you'll need to nominate it separately. Note however that the category survived a CfD discussion in April last year. Tonywalton  23:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Canvassing

I suspect you meant to make the point to someone else, rather than me. I haven't nominated anything for deletion for quite some time now and didn't involve myself in canvassing when I did. Regards Tonywalton  23:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Apology accepted. Tonywalton  23:36, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Please check who you're talking to

Your last comment, starting "Dear Arsenic" was left on my talkpage. If you intend a message for someone, please check the "Editing whatever" header to make sure that you're editing that someone's talkpage. I know I too can screw up from time to time, but please don't do it repeatedly. Thanks. Tonywalton  00:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

your thoughts pls

Hi, Grandmaster has asked me to perform a page move. From a quick glace I can see consensus on the talk between Grandmaster and alidoostzadeh, but I notice that in that section you have rejected a merge request so perhaps you have an opinion on the rename proposal. Please let me know when you have time. John Vandenberg (talk) 08:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello

I respect your work, and know how hard you try to be NPOV though at times to me seems very POV, but I have seen you do good NPOV work as well, so understand I am not here to "fight you" on every turf or article.

Please check my message at: http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Deliogul#slm. with regards to canvassing. Thanks and good day. — § _Arsenic99_ 19:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Right "a little help" is biraz yardim, a little help in directing me to the right way to propose a CfD, it was my first time. I didn't say, a little help in voting on delete, as I told you there is nothing like that in the messages. Regardless, I'll be more careful and write it in English next time. I didn't propose to anyone to make a SPA account, that could be anyone or even someone who is a wikipedian but just never bothered to make an account, so please understand that you don't need to jump to conclusions. If I was trying to be low and dirty, I would bring in 200 people from my fraternities and organizations I know to make posts, and you would see a link to that page on many websites, but I am not trying to "cheat" my way, plus it's not about numbers, it's about the strength of the argument and I know my argument for deletion is simply flat out better than yours for keeping it. I'll understand if you disagree. — § _Arsenic99_ 22:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

ANI

There is a discussion on WP:ANI regarding your civility and conduct. Just letting you know in case you want to make a statement/comment. Wisdom89 _{(T / )} 08:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Hamshenis

Vartan, please check out the Hamshenis article and talk page when you get a chance. A Turkish user User:Omer182 is trying to erase the Armenian background of the Hamshenis. -- Aivazovsky (talk) 14:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Daniel Varujan

Barev! Isn't there a wiki-page abt Daniel Varujan (in English wikipedia, I created it in the Italian one)...? Is it possible? Bye! Amiens984 (talk) 20:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Note

I think you've realised already, but this is way over the top. Cool it a little, please. Moreschi (talk) 13:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Irredentism

A user has expressed concern at WP:ANI regarding your removal of content here: . Please be careful when removing statements and sources without first discussing it on the talk page. Cheers. Wisdom89 _{(T / )} 20:47, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Riana's request for bureaucratship

Dear VartanM, thank you for taking part in my RfB. As you may know, it was not passed by bureaucrats. I would, however, like to thank you for taking the time to voice your support, despite concerns cited by the opposition. Although RfA/B isn't really about a person, but more about the community, I was deeply touched and honoured by the outpouring of support and interest in the discussion. I can only hope that you don't feel your opinion was not considered enough - bureaucrats have to give everyone's thoughts weight. I also hope that the results of this RfB lead to some change in the way we approach RfBs, and some thought about whether long-entrenched standards are a good thing in our growing and increasingly heterogenous community. I remain eager to serve you as an administrator and as an editor. If at any point you see something problematic in my actions, please do not hesitate to call me out. ~ Riana ⁂ 12:36, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Have I made a mistake?

It would appear in my short time here, I've angered the Wiki-"gods". http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Guenter_Lewy&diff=198296943&oldid=198218139

They've started with Guenter Lewy's position on the Armenian and Native American genocide and probably won't stop until they removed any and all persons/information involved. http://en.wikipedia.org/Guenter_Lewy Kansas Bear (talk) 04:52, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Here's their next removal of documented information.http://en.wikipedia.org/Murad_Gumen Kansas Bear (talk) 23:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Disrespectful comments targeting Armenians

Hi,

Sorry to take your time. I came across this edit today in which the user is making some derogatory comments towards Armenia and some other countries that borders on racism, caliming that Armenia is a non-historical and weak entity. Of course such claims for me who have been fortunate enough to read about the history of Armenia from Tigranes the Great all the way to the Armenian Genocide is simply ludicrous. I think this is very unfortunate and believe this user should be given a strong warning to refrain from such behaviour in the future. Regards.Heja Helweda (talk) 22:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I think this user is obsessed with me. I totally recognize the Armenian Genocide. I believe the small countries of the caucus are weak entities (relative to Iran) and they are played sometimes with bigger powers. The breakup of big countries is the aim of some groups in order to create smaller and controllable entities. There is no disrespect to any of these countries and I harbor no ill feelings to the average citizens of Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia, even if once in a while there is discussion on history matters that I might not agree with some of the citizens of these countries. Sorry for any disrespect if there was any, but I believe the above user is just trying to create bad-will. --alidoostzadeh (talk) 03:11, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I, in my own minor way, will vouch for Ali. His statement, in no way, was meant to libel Armenians or Armenia. Kansas Bear (talk) 03:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) --alidoostzadeh (talk) 04:00, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I have known Ali for quite sometime now and have outermost respect for him. Reading the 3 month old comment I don't see anything disrespectful or worthy of my attention. VartanM (talk) 05:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

wikisource needs you

Hi VartanM, we have two candidates for CU on Wikisource, and we need to accumulate 25 votes in favour in order to be approved. While I am one of the candidates, I dont mind whether you vote for or against me; this note is just to ensure that you know that as you are a serious contributor to Wikisource, and we dont have many, your input is desirable at this stage. John Vandenberg (talk) 05:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:Barnstar

Hello VartanM, thanks for the barnstar! I was actually a little surprised considering I worked on it over a year ago. It still brightened my day, though. Again, thanks for the barnstar! --Crzycheetah 08:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Armenian script needed

Hi, at Goblet drum there's a list of names in various languages. In Armenian it's called toumbeg or tmpug or something similar. Is there an Armenian Misplaced Pages page for this drum? Also, can you find the standardized spelling in the Armenian alphabet and add it at Goblet drum? Thank you, Badagnani (talk) 21:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, is there Armenian script for Udi Hrant Kenkulian? Badagnani (talk) 23:05, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

RE:

Thank you for informing me. I only assumed because I saw his comments in the Assyrian genocide talk page. Chaldean (talk) 23:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

On Bagh (word)

Dear VartanM, thank you for your contributions, both to the above-mentioned entry and the associated discussion. Incidentally, I have just reworked your addition to Bagh (word) — for some reason you had mistakenly copied one piece of the existing text and repeated it in the final part of the entry. With kind regards, --BF 03:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind message. --BF 03:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

How good are you with wikimarkup?

This userpage has been blanked. If this is your userpage, you can retrieve the contents of this page in the page history. Alternatively, if you would like it deleted, simply replace the content of this page with {{db-u1}}.

It's a work in progress. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 03:36, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

looks good but I think we need to make it so that if we but Artsakh=yes when putting the WPAM template that the other template pops up but when it's not there the other template doesn't pop up. The way I've currently got it with this test template is that there is an if statement inside such that if we set Artsakh=yes then the Artsakh task force pops up inside the WPAM template I sort of copied how the WPMILHIST template works. I suppose the alternative is to have a completely separate template but this may generate more wikicontroversy ;). Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 02:29, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Reverts

I saw someone blocked for revert-warring reverting links from an article; no, I didn't check what they were, but figured he was removing valid links, and if not, someone who knew better would come along after me. I'll admit, I went a revert too far on that one, and I apologize. --Golbez (talk) 07:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi VartanM, thanks for the welcome :) -Avarayr (talk) 02:53, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Location Nagorno-Karabakh en.png listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Location Nagorno-Karabakh en.png, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Gülməmməd 03:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Happy Independence Day!

As you are a nice Wikipedian, I just wanted to wish you a happy Independence Day! And if you are not an American, then have a happy day and a wonderful weekend anyway!  :) Your friend and colleague, --Happy Independence Day! Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 03:54, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

I am about 1/3 through the finalizing of the stubs of the Armenian town articles I created (long overdue), but everything is so interesting I always get a good lesson in Armenian history - from ancient times to Baku Commissars to present day - that I get sidetracked. May I move the award to my barnstar page? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Karabakh task force template

Hi Vartan, yes that's what I was refering. There is also another example with theMilitary History WikiProject template. The template in my user space can already do this:

{{User:Pocopocopocopoco/Template:TEST|Artsakh=yes}} shows the Nagorno-Karabakh task force

{{User:Pocopocopocopoco/Template:TEST}} would show the WPAM template without the Nagorno-Karabakh task force.

I believe the problem was with the formating that the task force flag would show up small. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pocopocopocopoco (talk • contribs) 04:14, 23 July 2008

For Kathedral

Hi Vartan, I think Image:Ghazanchetsots Cathedral 01.jpg is the most beautiful one. Thank you for uploading it on Commons. Greets --Vacio (talk) 09:10, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Azerbaijani violinist

I'd consider the first two options as feasible reasons to include the Azerbaijani category. The belief of ethnic minorities regarding their classification as "Azerbaijanis" is irrelevant in this matter. As it is only their opinion, there is no reason not to include an Azerbaijani category on their page. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 12:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

AE case

I've closed the current AE case. Note you are already on parole. I closed the current case since things have calmed down. You really need to turn down the rhetoric and rudeness. I won't be so understanding the next time I see you at AE, which is already too often. — Rlevse • Talk • 09:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Hayq, Sari

Thanks very much for your comprehensive explanation. So basically "Hayq, Sari" is a brand name that can be rendered in English as "Armenia Mountain Spring Water". Right? Still, I am unsure how to correctly render the comma between Hayq and Sari in English. Please do me a favor and look at the two photos of the spring water bottles here. Could you please transcribe into Latin script for me the Armenian text on the labels -- at least the parts that are legible? That will be a great help. Thanks again. --Zlerman (talk) 10:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for the next round of clarifications. Maybe they have two brands, one called "Hayq" and the other "Sari", distributed in different bottles? In any case, take all the time you need: I will eagerly await the final outcome of your investigations and then incorporate the findings in the appropriate places. Cheers. --Zlerman (talk) 10:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey man, sorry for not getting back to you sooner, thank you for your kind words and for the links. I am not on Misplaced Pages that often so I just thought to throw in some thoughts, but I plan to write some more stuff in the future so I will delve deeper into this entire Wiki stuff. Hope I clicked the correct + button lol, if this posting makes any trouble, please delete it, sorry. Many Greetings Cityraven (talk) 21:07, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

revisionism, racist sources and violation of NPOV

Please protect this page and make quick views of it because of its high tax of edits by revisionists. Barevner, --Vitilsky (talk) 12:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Barevner, gents. No need for censorship, the article is pretty quiet. Vitilsky is learning the ropes, and he just needs a good debate, which I have initiated on his talk page, in the spirit of Misplaced Pages. --Adoniscik 18:11, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Play nice boys, Adoniscik I appreciate your WP:AGF. VartanM (talk) 22:10, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Vitilsky is jumping to conclusions as a result inexperience and not knowing who's who. He seemingly ascribes malice to my actions but all I am trying to do is to air all the laundry; I am interested in the allegedly missing Takvim-i Vekayi issues too. --Adoniscik 01:49, 10 August 2008 (UTC)