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Revision as of 23:11, 9 September 2008 by Roux (talk | contribs) (→User:G2bambino: How?)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)This user is a member of the Misplaced Pages Ultra Secret Inner Inner Cabal, a cabal so secret that not only am I not allowed to know who the other members are, I am not even allowed to know if there are any other members, and if I ever did find out that anyone else was a member I would have to kill them immediately.
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I check in most evenings, and occasionally some days during the day. I am on UK time (I can see Greenwich Royal Observatory from my office). If you post a reply at 8pm EST and get no reply by 10pm, it's likely because I'm asleep. My wiki interests at the moment are limited. I still handle some OTRS tickets.
Dispute resolution, Bible style - and actually an excellent model on Misplaced Pages as well.
If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over.
But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.'
If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
— Matthew 18:15
Please do not try to provoke me to anger, it's not difficult to do, so it's not in the least bit clever, and experience indicates that some at least who deliberately make my life more miserable than it needs to be, have been banned and stayed that way. Make an effort to assume good faith and let's see if we can't get along. Guy (Help!) 22:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- Please see User:JzG/Harassment links.
the internets is populated by eggshells armed with hammers
- Bored? Looking for something to do? Try User:Eagle 101/problem BLPs.
- Really bored? Visit my website: http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
- User talk:Raul654/Civil POV pushing - extremely interesting debate on what I feel is one of the worst problems on Misplaced Pages right now.
Note to self
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Istria&diff=192329190&oldid=189359747
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Cycling events
Argh - just realised you are a cycling fan anyway so removed this mini-rant ;-)
Requests for arbitration
Concerning the topic ban of Benjiboi can be found here.— Dædαlus /Improve 10:53, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
ANI
Cheers for your input - I've made a topic ban proposal here. Ncmvocalist (talk) 12:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Deletion review for Hammes Company
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Hammes Company. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. CyberGhostface (talk) 14:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Re Ralph Ovadal article
I agree with your changes; I've done several edits on the Ovadal page for more NPOV myself. But I didn't edit out all that I could because there used to be people who would routinely delete anything negative from the page and turn it back into an advertisement. So I tried to take it slow to avoid rousing those people. If you look at the history you can see how much of an improvement the current revision is compared to the earliest versions. Einamozam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.184.196.241 (talk) 15:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Please help
You are the interested party, how do I re-write the Hammes Company article so it gets approved. Do you think it's not a significant company? I have a hard time believing it is less signifant than many of the companies that already have pages. I look to your guidance to help define how to get an article approved. The latest version of the article that was posted yesterday included sources, was written from a neutral point of view, had relevant external links, and told the story of how Hamme Company has designed two huge parts of American culture. Misplaced Pages is a very important resource, and having a neutral[REDACTED] page for Hammes Company would seem appropriate. Please give me any input or ideas. Thank you! Sharnden (talk) 17:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- You need to read WP:COI and WP:BAI. Also WP:NOT (Misplaced Pages is not a directory, a part of your company SEO or marketing efforts). Guy (Help!) 17:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
FYI
A lovely contribution from the good doctor. Interesting reincarnation. Keeper ǀ 76 18:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think I must be missing something? Guy (Help!) 19:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- I pointed that page out to Keeper. Check his talk page; the main point is that is the doctor's vanity page largely recreated, only without pictures, and in the user space. I thought we had decided it was inappropriate. Frank | talk 19:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, what Frank said. Didn't we delete this out of userspace once already, with a request not to recreate it? Keeper ǀ 76 19:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- I thought we left it at his user page with {{userpage}} and the mainspace infoboxes and cats deleted. Since he is effectively a non-contributor outside personal vanity it would probably be deleted by MfD, but I thought we might as well wait a decent interval just in case. Guy (Help!) 21:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, that's how it is now (with the template, without the cats). But it is still largely a vanity page. It looks like an end-run to me; the article that was substantially the same was deleted at AfD. Keeper thought perhaps you were mentoring...? Frank | talk 21:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Give him a little while to make some kind of contribution, and then MfD it. I really think that's the best option here. Guy (Help!) 21:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Agree. He's not exactly breaking anything, not exactly being disruptive. I haven't looked (recently) at contribs outside of his userpage. How long are you thinking? A few weeks/month? Keeper ǀ 76 21:53, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- A couple of weeks should be enough. He's done nothing of substance yet, anyway. Guy (Help!) 22:00, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Agree. He's not exactly breaking anything, not exactly being disruptive. I haven't looked (recently) at contribs outside of his userpage. How long are you thinking? A few weeks/month? Keeper ǀ 76 21:53, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Give him a little while to make some kind of contribution, and then MfD it. I really think that's the best option here. Guy (Help!) 21:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, that's how it is now (with the template, without the cats). But it is still largely a vanity page. It looks like an end-run to me; the article that was substantially the same was deleted at AfD. Keeper thought perhaps you were mentoring...? Frank | talk 21:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- I thought we left it at his user page with {{userpage}} and the mainspace infoboxes and cats deleted. Since he is effectively a non-contributor outside personal vanity it would probably be deleted by MfD, but I thought we might as well wait a decent interval just in case. Guy (Help!) 21:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, what Frank said. Didn't we delete this out of userspace once already, with a request not to recreate it? Keeper ǀ 76 19:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- I pointed that page out to Keeper. Check his talk page; the main point is that is the doctor's vanity page largely recreated, only without pictures, and in the user space. I thought we had decided it was inappropriate. Frank | talk 19:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
OK, then; that's cool with me. Wanted to ask a smallish audience to get a sanity check. Thanks for the input (both)! Frank | talk 22:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Of course. Just trying to keep the drama down, for once :-) Guy (Help!) 22:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
User:G2bambino
Where, exactly, is my ANI notice to go? Dispute resolution with the user is pointless, as the dispute covers his entire history and he has shown no change since he began editing here. Not allowed to do an RfC/U, as that requires mediation, which itself requires informal mediation, which kind of avoids the whole point: he is a consistently disruptive and bullying editor. So what, exactly, am I supposed to do? Prince of Canada 22:25, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
And, actually, I dispute that this has been resolved. Yes, this arose from an editor dispute, but this is far, far broader in scope (which is why I brought in his history) than one dispute. Prince of Canada 22:33, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
JzG, as a third party to the dispute between PoC and G2 I'd like to point out that not all users accept the assertion that he is a "disruptive and bullying editor". The current sitution has evolved from a dispute over Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. Rather than shifting this complaint onwards through the process might I request you settle it by giving some advice to both users about how to settle this dispute and continue to editing together constructively? Gavin (talk) 22:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- You are hardly unbiased. And many editors agree that he is disruptive and bullying. UpDown, for one. Dlatimer, for another. I haven't asked the users who were subjected to his behaviour at Talk:Autumn Phillips who came over from the MoS pages. And the current situation, as I have said, is merely the latest in an incredibly long pattern of rude and abusive behaviour, multiple blocks, and multiple (ignored) warnings. Also.. must you follow me everywhere? Prince of Canada 22:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- I made a request to JzG to try and resolve this dispute, please don't try and pull me into it. Also, saying I am unbiased is a violation of WP:AGF. I am not following you everywhere, I am simply following through this dispute thing. However, lets not clutter up JzG's page and allow him to respond to our requests when he sees fit. Gavin (talk) 22:42, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Stating that you believe my actions are an attack is not an unbiased statement, nor is commenting on my supposed emotional state (and indeed being rude when asked not to do so again), nor is saying that I am "rude" and "belittling" and "superior", so no, it's not a violation of AGF. Prince of Canada 22:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- That kind of talk gives me an itchy block finger. My recommendation is that you avoid G2, but if you can't leave the articles he edits alone and vice-versa then you need to use the dispute resolution process. Guy (Help!) 23:08, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- How, exactly? While I openly agree that this grew out of a recent dispute, my concern is with three years of uncivil behaviour. Prince of Canada 23:11, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- That kind of talk gives me an itchy block finger. My recommendation is that you avoid G2, but if you can't leave the articles he edits alone and vice-versa then you need to use the dispute resolution process. Guy (Help!) 23:08, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- Stating that you believe my actions are an attack is not an unbiased statement, nor is commenting on my supposed emotional state (and indeed being rude when asked not to do so again), nor is saying that I am "rude" and "belittling" and "superior", so no, it's not a violation of AGF. Prince of Canada 22:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
- I made a request to JzG to try and resolve this dispute, please don't try and pull me into it. Also, saying I am unbiased is a violation of WP:AGF. I am not following you everywhere, I am simply following through this dispute thing. However, lets not clutter up JzG's page and allow him to respond to our requests when he sees fit. Gavin (talk) 22:42, 9 September 2008 (UTC)